Cleland Worried About "White Backlash" To Obama

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Max Cleland, the former Senator from Georgia who has taken on an active role helping Democrats campaign in that state, expressed concern that there would be a certain amount of "white backlash" to Barack Obama in the South.

In an interview with the Huffington Post, Cleland lauded the Illinois Democrat for changing the political landscape in "fundamental" ways, through "massive new registration of voters, many of them African-American." But he warned that there would be "a certain white backlash against that, which... has always been a part of the politics of the South."

"There are [people] who react negatively when it looks like the government or the Democratic Party favors blacks over whites," he explained. But he offered that Obama had offset much of this by recruiting an unprecedented amount of supporters (including many newly registered voters) to his camp.

If anyone knows about the mindset of Southern voters, it is Cleland. The triple-amputee Vietnam veteran famously lost his reelection bid in 2002 under the weight of vicious smear tactics.

Cleland said he saw hints of that style of campaign in John McCain's current run for the presidency. But the fault, he argued, was not with Arizona Republican but rather with the people who surround him.

"Keep in mind, some of those people there are Karl Rovian protégées," he said. "That's what bothers me. I mean, if John McCain were to get rid of that stuff and become the John McCain of 2000 he would have a much better chance."

A widely respected voice on national security, Cleland did chastise McCain individually for one facet of his campaign: the choice of Sarah Palin as running mate. He "knows better," said the Georgia Democrat. He "wanted to go for Lieberman or Ridge as his V.P. -- both of which would have been very credible... [but] they were pro-choice and it was a threat by the right wing nutzos to disrupt the Republican convention that caused McCain to cave in and go with somebody that was -- in Karl Rovian terms -- good for cranking up the base. And it has become a disaster."

But Cleland's main diagnosis for the ills of the Republican ticket was clear. "I am sorry that John is going against the whirlwind that Bush has sown," he said.

Six years ago, Cleland faced a very different Bush whirlwind. During a his reelection bid for Senate, his Republican opponent (at the behest, he says, of the White House) ran ads that put his picture alongside Osama bin Laden. Combined with the governor's decision, that year, to take the Confederate emblem off the state flag, the Bush administration had all the wedge issues it needed to drive up the vote against him.

Flash-forward to today and the dynamics could not be more different. A massive wave of Democratic voters, a presidential campaign that has excited the base, and President Bush's dwindling popularity all have produced what was believed to be unthinkable: an opportunity for Obama to win the state and for Democratic candidate and fellow Vietnam vet Jim Martin to upset Sen. Saxby Chambliss, the man who beat Cleland back in '02. (The polls are very tight in that Senate race, though the consensus among those who have followed that contest is that Chambliss stands a good shot of pulling it out.)

"The fact that Obama is even close in Georgia -- like four points -- is a miracle," said Cleland. "It is unheard of. And who knows what will happen in terms of turnout. It could push him over the top, it could push Martin over the top. We have historic numbers in terms of registration, African-Americans and young people. We have not had that ever in terms of early voting, in terms of absentee voting."

Cleland, who blogged about the Georgia Senate race for the Huffington Post, said that there was no personal satisfaction or vindication he would take out of a Martin win. But he acknowledged that some people in the state have come to see the allegations made against him in 2002 as lies. "There is some regret out there," he said, "that I am not still in the United States Senate."

Max Cleland, the former Senator from Georgia who has taken on an active role helping Democrats campaign in that state, expressed concern that there would be a certain amount of "white backlash" to Bar...
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- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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It is perhaps a 'southron' point of view that there'll be
a 'white backlash' of anti-Obama voting. The fact is,
when he's elected, it'll be by a large majority of voters
of every shade & complexion you can think of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 10/31/2008
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 504 fans permalink
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Mr. Cleland. I live in Georgia. I am a Republican. My family of (4) voters voted for Jim Martin and Obama. This ones for you Sir. Thank You for your Service.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 10/31/2008
- kasv I'm a Fan of kasv 20 fans permalink

It is republicans like you and your family that make me miss the republican party of years ago. God bless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 10/31/2008

It will be people such as you who restore credibility to the GOP.

Seriously, you need to purge the nutbars out of your party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 10/31/2008

BRAVO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 10/31/2008
- mcliberty I'm a Fan of mcliberty 3 fans permalink

Immediate tears. wow. thank you for remembering what Mr. Cleland gave for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 10/31/2008
- lejman I'm a Fan of lejman 5 fans permalink

sad to say, mr. cleland makes some valid points. i pray the under 40 generation never experiences the profound sadness of 1963 and 1968.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 10/31/2008
- JennieB I'm a Fan of JennieB 12 fans permalink

Wow, that's a shocker. The Southern racists won't like an Obama presidency? Really?

Who gives a crap what those racist a-holes think. They've been embarrassing themselves and their states for decades so nothing new here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 10/31/2008
- sus1 I'm a Fan of sus1 permalink

"But the fault, he argued, was not with Arizona Republican but rather with the people who surround him"

Sorry. If the man can't run a campaign without the dirt, he didn't choose his advisors well. I'm not sure if McCain holds the views that he has been promoting at his rallies (and even more at Palin's rallies), but he did promote the bigotry. Or, at least he didn't put a stop to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 10/31/2008

Hear, hear! I'm sorry, but at the end of each of those campaign ads that are filled with fear and hate mongering, it specifically says 'I'm John McCain and I approved this message.'

McCain should absolutely be held accountable for how his campaign has run. If he let himself become a puppet for people like Carl Rove, he made that CHOICE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 10/31/2008
- kasv I'm a Fan of kasv 20 fans permalink

Agree - McCain is an utter disappointment to my republican friends. He is the head of his campaign and chose the Rovian-schooled masters of it. The only thing that choice has done for him is gain votes for Obama from those same republican friends who have compared the policies and the execution of each campaign and candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 10/31/2008
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Mr. Cleand is a wonderful man and is proof of the fact that smear tactics work - Obama has been subtly working to show that he is safe; however, subtleties don't work for many people. You have to send a clear strong message. Gen. Powell's message was diluted because he is Black. We need a host of high-profile, highly trusted whites to flood the airwaves, talking about the safety and trustworthiness of Obama. The hard-core, we will never get, but the moderate vote that have questions can be won.

Without vision, the people perish. Obama/Biden 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 10/31/2008
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Smear tactics work when the people doing the smear appear to have some integrity. Let me tell you the whole Republican party has none.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 10/31/2008

I'm a native Georgia, living in Texas. Please, Georgians, get out the vote. Stay in line. Stand them down. You can do it. We're all pulling for you as well as for Barack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 10/31/2008
- MrsPeel I'm a Fan of MrsPeel 57 fans permalink
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I share Cleland's concern. I'm in Denver. Over the last three weeks, I've had a new repair contractor to my house to fix a problem. He's a retiree originally from the South, and he's in contact with his people there. I'll never hire him again.

He insists many white Southern voters would never vote Obama and would never reveal it. I wonder how many account for so-called Undecideds.

Seeing my Obama bumper sticker, he brought it up both times. "You know your guy can't win, don't you?" He was very pleasant about it, but I didn't consider talking to this racist to be pleasant.

Claims he voted for Clinton. Says he's not racist (natch). He follows just enough news to pass as informed to some, and to be dangerous. I didn't get in his face, but gently offered a few thoughts and questions for him to consider.

It always came back to race. "The blacks are all going to vote for Obama in high numbers. That's racist." (I mentioned African Americans vote for Dems in a large percentage.)

"What Jeremiah Wright said, that's racist. He's hateful." (I said I grew up in the United Church of Christ in northern Ohio, and, while it was hard to hear what Wright said, I understood it.)

"What Michelle Obama said didn't help either." (What can you say to people who latch on to that canard?)

I truly hope there is a countervailing "Obama Effect."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 10/31/2008

Let me remind you John McCain stated in his autobiography that the first time he was proud of his country was when he was a prisoner of war now give me a rebuttal for that because its his words

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 10/31/2008

Georgia voters, please get out and vote for Obama!! This will be the most iimportant election you've ever participated in, and you can make it happen! Let's make history and elect Obama as our next President!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 10/31/2008

I am so sick of the subject of race constantly being brought up. There are whites, blacks, latinos, Asian Americans, and Native Americans voting for Obama. The rest of the country needs to get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 10/31/2008
- robotfog I'm a Fan of robotfog 23 fans permalink
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Me too. Most of it is drivel. People over 30 think it's 1908 instead of 2008. I realize there are still haters, but for the most part, we've all grown up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 10/31/2008
- MrsPeel I'm a Fan of MrsPeel 57 fans permalink
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You are incorrect when you say "People over 30 think it's 1908 instead of 2008." That's like the silly '60s saying, "Don't trust anyone over 30."

This country has made progress, but we are not for the most part all grown up. I'm guessing you're not African-American. I bet you don't live in the South.

It's my observation that "young people" underestimate racist remnants in the U.S. It won't do to be impatient about hearing about race. It won't do to be ignorant of centuries of European/African/Caribbean/Cuban/American slavery.

May I suggest that you undertake a comprehensive study of slavery, Reconstruction, the '50s and '60s Civil Rights Movement, and race relations in different regions of the U.S.. It's always good to understand history. This happens to be a huge part of understanding our country for good and for ill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 10/31/2008

Ummm, not in the deep south. They are as racist as ever. We live in a rural area north of Nashville, TN and I get dirty looks when some see the "Women for Obama" sticker on my car. I'm amazed Georgia is so close! It will take another generation, maybe two, for the ignorant south to grow up. Max, bless him, is correct in his assessment.
But I remember in 1968 we wanted to end the war and wanted the old boys to move over and let the next generation run things. That time has come again and I prefer to look forward to the future.
Go Obama!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 10/31/2008
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 221 fans permalink
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I'm 45 and I voted Obama today!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 10/31/2008

Now now - don't be ageist. There are many of us between 30-50 that are not haters.

I ran into a 27 year old from Augusta Georgia yesterday who is supposedly an undecided who started bringing up "lazy Blacks".

I was a little shocked that this individual went to college.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 10/31/2008
- GingerB I'm a Fan of GingerB 82 fans permalink
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Way to promote unity, youngin'. (/sarcasm)

This 50-something woman has been working and donating to help get Obama-Biden elected.

I think you need to do more growing. Skinhead.s certainly aren't from my generation. Don't kid yourself, while we've come a long way since the Civil Rights Act of 1964, we still have a race problem in the USA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 10/31/2008

The statement is too easy it will only be when white americans shame other white americans for this intolerance will the country change that is what happened during the civil rights era whites said enough and meant it. In order for this country to change that approach has to be in effect

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 10/31/2008
- DWP I'm a Fan of DWP 2 fans permalink

It doesn't have to be racist for people to do horrible things to each other. Look at what the Rove et. al.'s did to this wonderful verteran. It is use anything to divide and conquer -- race, quilt by association, use of words like socialism, then there is the pervasive "real American" whatever that means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 10/31/2008
- newdreams I'm a Fan of newdreams 6 fans permalink

Those that are prejudiced in America are going to have to learn to deal with their anger. And hopefully they'll redirect that energy for the good. Our country is becoming more diverse and more culturally rich as a result.

Any anger as the result of the 'white candidate' not winning, will only hinder those that cultivate that anger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 10/31/2008
- mcliberty I'm a Fan of mcliberty 3 fans permalink

I am worried about the racial tension turning into racial violence. My family is mixed race; my mom is white, my dad AA. My mom's parents disowned her when she began dating my step-dad because they are stereotypical Southern racists. Yesterday my grandma called me telling me how scared she is of Obama being elected because he's the anti-christ. Sometimes, it's really hard to believe these are the people I Iove spewing this hate. I am worried that this latent racism is going to come to the surface and my family may be caught in the cross-fire.

That said, our country needs to hemorrhage, purge, and heal racism. It may get uncomfortable, it may get violence. But we can never give up HOPE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 10/31/2008
- drsmc41 I'm a Fan of drsmc41 4 fans permalink

Did you report him, at least?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 10/31/2008

Get over the race cr@p! I'm a white woman and could care less what color Barack Obama is. I know he is the right candidate to be president. Anyone who is racist is insecure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 10/31/2008
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I live in Suwanee GA and while standing in a four hour long line to vote earlier this week, a friendly little white man asked a couple of us if we had gun permits. We both laughed and asked why? We also noticed that he wasn't kidding--he was very serious. He went on to say that he knows of groups of supremecists who are gathering now to make their plans on how they will go after AA females if Obama wins the race. I looked at him a little perplexed, but he was not joking. He went so far as to say, I am a white man, I know. Now I am not one for taking this like this too seriously, but he was serious and I'm a little bit nervous. This is the deep south and as this little sweet guy said, the Klan ain't dead!

Thanks Mr. Cleland for your support of our country and Georgia!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 10/31/2008
- kjstjohn I'm a Fan of kjstjohn 248 fans permalink
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I don't think non-Southerners realize what a real issue this is in the South. This is why I have been nearly out of my mind with anger about the Palin strategy. Doesn't she understand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 10/31/2008
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