Evidence of a recession piles higher with new data

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

MARTIN CRUTSINGER | October 31, 2008 11:13 PM EST | AP

Compare other versions »

Charts show personal income and spending for the past 13 months;

WASHINGTON — Evidence of a recession piled ever higher Friday, with new figures showing Americans are spending less and gloomy about the economy, while the government signaled it won't buy stock in the financing arms of auto companies to prop them up. The Commerce Department reported consumer spending dropped a sharp 0.3 percent in September while their incomes, the fuel for future spending, managed only a small 0.2 percent gain.

That followed a report a day earlier that the U.S. economy shrank by 0.3 percent in the third quarter. The accepted definition of a recession is two straight quarters of a shrinking economy.

Closing out the worst October in 21 years but one of the best weeks ever, investors did some bargain shopping on Wall Street, snapping up stocks that have plunged in value. The Dow Jones industrial average gained nearly 145 points.

Meanwhile, the outgoing Bush administration sent signals to automakers and other industries hoping for government purchases of their stock that they probably won't qualify for the program.

Administration officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the program is still being put together, said it was unlikely the auto companies would be able to qualify for direct government purchases of stock in their auto-financing arms as part of the $250 billion stock purchase program.

They could still be eligible for government purchases of bad assets, such as auto loans, under a separate program that is expected to spend $100 billion initially. The government plans to buy stock in banks and lift bad assets on their books as part of the financial system bailout.

The wrangling over the broader rescue program continued, with Democrats stressing Congress wants the package to be used to pump new loans into the economy, not diverted to stockholders or executives or to buy other banks.

"I am deeply disappointed that a number of financial institutions are distorting the legislation that Congress passed," said House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass. He announced hearings on the rescue package Nov. 12 and 18.

Story continues below
advertisement

The Treasury Department said it would extend a Nov. 15 deadline for banks that do not have publicly traded stock to apply for the government stock-purchasing plan _ a plan that could extend to 6,000 banks.

The bank rescue is intended to shore up financial companies and get lending, the lifeblood of the economy, going again.

Meanwhile, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said in a speech that whatever system is constructed following the government takeover of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac must have better safeguards to make sure it can work during times of stress.

Bernanke said the credit crisis had exposed serious deficiencies in areas beyond home loans.

"The boom in subprime mortgage lending was only part of a much broader credit boom characterized by underpricing of risk, excessive leverage and the creation of complex and opaque financial instruments that proved fragile under stress," Bernanke said.

As the nation learns more about what went wrong, the economy grows ever bleaker. The Commerce Department report that consumer spending fell by 0.3 percent in September followed two months in which spending was essentially flat.

A separate survey released Friday by the University of Michigan and Reuters showed consumer confidence in October fell to 57.6, the biggest one-month drop in the survey's history, which dates to 1978.

And economists expect Americans to cut back further. The nation's financial outlook is dimming just as the critical holiday shopping season looms, and stores are bracing for one of the worst on record.

David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York, said he believed the recession could turn out to be the longest in the post World War II period.

"Things are still looking soft and the light at the end of the tunnel is a long way off," Wyss said.

In a separate report, the Labor Department said the wages and benefits of U.S. workers rose by a modest 0.7 percent in the third quarter, the same as in the first and second quarters.

The spending report showed that an inflation gauge tied to spending edged up just 0.1 percent in September. But prices over the past year are up by more than 4 percent, and inflation is outside the Fed's comfort zone.

Still, the central bank is expected to focus on fighting to keep the country out of a severe recession _ not raising rates to fight inflation.

The Fed cut a key interest rate by a half-point on Wednesday to 1 percent, tying the lowest level in the past half-century. Analysts said if the economy remains weak, the Fed could well cut rates again at their last meeting of the year on Dec. 16.

___

Associated Press Writers Jennifer Loven and Christopher Rugaber in Washington contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Evidence of a recession piled ever higher Friday, with new figures showing Americans are spending less and gloomy about the economy, while the government signaled it won't buy stock...
WASHINGTON — Evidence of a recession piled ever higher Friday, with new figures showing Americans are spending less and gloomy about the economy, while the government signaled it won't buy stock...
 
Comments
15
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:

To be obdurate, we, my friends [enemies & the apathetic], have a depression, Obama as POTUS or not. This looks like what I heard from survivors to the 20th century depression speak of endlessly in the 1950's. This time no wooden nickles, try plastic quarters this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 11/02/2008

Michigan has been in a Recession for quite awhile now-8.8% unemployment Rate and the Auto Industry that was once the mainstay of the State Economy in a downsizing frenzy. It was only a matter of time till the economic bubble busted in other areas-Just too many people out of work! I have given up on blaming anyone as it really doesn't make any difference...There is some talk about an Auto Bail out but , in all seriousness, the Auto Companies have been wanting to leave the U.S. for quite some time and their opportunity finally came. Future generations may actually thank the current Administration as the reliance on the Auto Industry was very closely related to the reliance on Foreign Oil. It would really be funny if Big Oil killed its own golden goose by letting its three favorite customers-Auto, Trucking and Airlines go belly up and the U.S. went to Mass Transit, trains, and alternative fuels! I can only hope!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 11/01/2008
photo

Uhhh. Who else are we trying to convince here? George W Bush?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 11/01/2008

What more data is needed to prove the USA are in a recession? We had a program last night on German TV about Flint, Michigan, vehicle city, which was really depressing. Our car industry in Germany will probably suffer from the coming slow down world wide as well. However we might make it better through this storm. The US auto industry doesn't seem to have any substance anymore. Decisions too lame and too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 11/01/2008
photo

So how's that whole "CEO President" thing working out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 11/01/2008
photo

Yeah...about as well as the whole CEO as CEO thing has been working for Lehman's, GM, HP.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 11/01/2008
photo

Yeah. The FOX in the hen house theory, like former energy company executives in charge of government energy watchdog committees, brilliant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 11/01/2008

We've been in a recession for a year, but the government uses such an outrageous guideline for calling recessions that it only shows once it has become plainly obvious to the stupidest of individuals.

The better question is if we will be heading towards a depression. I think we are, but neither Obama nor McCain have the foresight to deal with it correctly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 11/01/2008

This is news?

People were losing jobs last year. And it was part of the original signs of the credit crisis. Only then everyone thought it was just the homes and real estate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 11/01/2008

I had to laugh when I read this headline. Just now they are making that announcement? Um, what, did they think it could be anything else? Let's get real here, ok. You have that many people out of jobs, losing homes, lost wages, healthcare, can't afford the basics, you are not dreaming, things are really that bad. This was so obvious it was rediculous. Is it any wonder why people don't want more republicans in office, ever? I can't recall when things were ever this bad in my 48 years. This has been an embarrassment. The white house should be tried for treason for it. If that makes me unpopular, so be it. It happened on Bush's watch. Now barack will have to deal with it. Goes to show, we cannot trust MSM for anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 11/01/2008

OMG, I just heard the Pope wears a pointy hat!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 10/31/2008

HEY REPUBLICANS! YOUR PERFORMANCE IS UNSATISFACTORY. YOU'RE FIRED!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 10/31/2008

I've been tested for eight years, Enough!

Obama/Biden 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 10/31/2008
photo

Another bush, another recession.....only this one makes dad's look like an abdominal cramp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 10/31/2008

.....in other breaking news, the square of the hypotenuse of a right triangle equals the sum of the squares of the shorter sides.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 10/31/2008
Comments are closed for this entry

You must be logged in to reply to this comment. Log in  or  Connect