Zogby Poll Showing McCain Lead Interviews Fewer Democrats Than All Other Surveys

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First Posted: 11- 1-08 11:26 AM   |   Updated: 12- 2-08 05:12 AM

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On Saturday morning, Drudge trumpeted the latest one-day finding in John Zogby's latest three-day tracking poll on the presidential race. While Zogby's three-day average still shows a 5-point lead for Barack Obama over John McCain, the pollster notes on his site today that McCain led Obama by one point, 48 to 47, in the last day of surveys.

More cautious than Drudge, however, Zogby says that it's too early to declare that McCain has made decisive gains over Obama. "If McCain has a good day tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama's good day three days ago, and we could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now, hold on," Zogby writes.

But as the Huffington Post reported on Thursday when discussing the latest Fox News poll, Zogby has a unique methodology in his polling. He fixes -- or "weights" -- the partisan balance of his respondents, unlike most pollsters. While his admirably transparent and stable practice guarantees a certain methodological sameness from day to day, therefore making any new lead for McCain worth reporting, Zogby's partisan weighting can also raise other questions.

Asked earlier this week what the partisan weighting of their poll currently is, a Zogby aide told the Huffington Post: "Party ID remains at 38 Democratic - 36 Republican - 26 Independent. We have added a point for 18-29 [year old voters], 1.5 for African Americans, and 2 for Hispanics."

Earlier this year, Zogby told me that "party ID is a lead variable, and a major determinant in how people vote. I apply a weight to party ID, and if I see a reason for it to change, I will."

Still, Zogby's two point party ID advantage for Democrats is the smallest of any polling firm. The last four days of the Hotline/Diageo poll show anywhere from a four- to six-point advantage for Democrats -- and a simultaneous seven-point lead for Obama. Gallup's latest surveys indicate that Democrats have an 11-point advantage over Republicans in party ID (including what the firm describes as partisan "leaners").

Zogby's partisan makeup gives even less of a partisan advantage to Democrats than Fox's latest poll, which earned some skepticism, as well.

As for the day-to-day fluctuations in tracking polls, Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz says they are "almost entirely due" to random statistical error, or "noise."

"The trackers don't move in sync with each other -- one goes up, another goes down," he tells the Huffington Post. "This is what we are seeing today in fact. Already we see that Obama is down in Zogby but up in DailyKos and Rasmussen. No doubt we'll see more of the same in the next three days. There is no evidence here of any real trend toward McCain in either the national polls or the state polling as smart analysts like Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com and Mark Blumenthal and Charles Franklin of Pollster.com have shown."

For what it's worth, McCain lead pollster Bill McInturff sees things Zogby's way. In a Friday conference call with reporters, McInturff said "I don't see how you have party ID at negative 8 [percent for Republicans]. That's not America ... anywhere in the last generation and a half."

Aside from determining the next president, Tuesday's election might be used to settle a few scores in the polling profession, as well.

On Saturday morning, Drudge trumpeted the latest one-day finding in John Zogby's latest three-day tracking poll on the presidential race. While Zogby's three-day average still shows a 5-point lead for...
On Saturday morning, Drudge trumpeted the latest one-day finding in John Zogby's latest three-day tracking poll on the presidential race. While Zogby's three-day average still shows a 5-point lead for...
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..........Cur......... Prev
Rep: .36%.....30%
Dem: 38%.....38%
Ind:... 24% 30%

Con: 35% 31%
Mod: 44% 46%
Libs: 15% 16%
* Notice the 4% uptick in conservatives
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With the breakdown of support for each candidate within these groups essentially the same for each week actually Obama's DEM support +6 and REP support +2 this week.

This explains the difference

NOT A CHANGE IN VOTER SENTIMENT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 11/03/2008
- yasmeen I'm a Fan of yasmeen 2 fans permalink

either way you slice it or dice it....mccain's goose is cooked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 11/03/2008

I don't understand how independents and democrats really liked John McCain before the election and all of a sudden they have become very anti John. Has everyone read his website about what he is going to do for America? Has everyone read up on what he has already done? My concern about Obama is that I don't know what he is going to do. I know what he SAYS he is going to do but he is too inexperienced to know if he has the capability of following through. I mean, I have good ideas too, but just because I have good ideas doesn't mean I am capable of being president of the US (the greatest country in the world) does it? I want someone to tell me how what he's done in the past will make him a better president than John McCain. I am not saying this as a criticism because I am an independent still trying to decide my vote, but I want a reasonable well thought out answer, not a bashing John McCain or talking points answer. I have heard all of those. Thanks for helping me out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 11/02/2008
- Amennyc I'm a Fan of Amennyc 16 fans permalink
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John McCain represents the Republican party that has turned the USA into the not so greatest country in the world. John McCain has voted 90% of the time with one of the worst president's of the USA. A war based on lies. OBL still free. Economy is a joke. Torture. Habeas Corpus. Wire Tapping, Rendition. All under the Republican party.... just to name a few. The party is over. That is all!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 11/02/2008

Thank you for answering me but it still didn't answer my original question. Those are all talking points. I want an answer based on Obama's past experience to persuade me to vote for him. I see the polls with him leading so there must be something in his past experience to persuade people to vote for him, right? I went online and did my research and read both candidates websites and I didn't see anything to cause this euphoria for Obama. His voting record shows that Obama also voted for Bush's budget every time it came up for a vote so apparently he was ok with the budget also. I would like someone to tell me about his past experience please. I'm begging!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 11/02/2008
- FatherWolf I'm a Fan of FatherWolf 21 fans permalink

Zogby today: "nevermind"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 11/02/2008
- KIMBER I'm a Fan of KIMBER 18 fans permalink
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McCain is playing the Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers and God knows what else in heavy rotation in battleground states. Just talked to my mom in Missouri and they played them several times while I was talking to her.
Call your battleground state Dem relatives and tell them they've got to get in line and not leave until they've voted. McCain is going down thrashing and biting like a rabid animal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 11/02/2008
- manicore I'm a Fan of manicore 10 fans permalink
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Looks like they Bought Old John! To bad that his polling service has turned into a
Republican Hack Site.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 11/02/2008

I love when the lines are long. That way I know everybody is voting. I'm gonna take a whole days pay off. And vote my man Obama in Office (A Democratic President) at last. And with all the you know what that them filthy Republicans are doing. Wall Street is against them. And they are gonna loose (laugh) And I'm gonna love it.
Thanks for apprising me about the long lines. I will go early around 8 or 9 o clock.

From Rodney

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 11/02/2008
- Daisy1111 I'm a Fan of Daisy1111 8 fans permalink

How can any poll be accurate when 80% of people they call refuse to respond to their questions.

I sort of think "O" supporters would be happy to respond, wouldn't you?

So all these people refusing to reveal their choice for prez -- who do you think they're voting for?

An exit poll in early voting in FL showed that although 58% of the people early voting were Democrats, 12% of them told exit polls they voted republican. Yet only 7% of the eraly voting republicans said they voted democrat.

Do the math.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 11/02/2008
- PaHairO I'm a Fan of PaHairO 7 fans permalink

"An" exit poll in Florida ?

Can you get any less specific, Daisy ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 11/02/2008
- Greg285 I'm a Fan of Greg285 5 fans permalink

This race is not as close as the pollsters are indicating here lately! It's a blowout in Obama's favor and on Nov 4th, the results will confirm that. Its not over, yet, so everyone please do your part and get out and cast you vote on Nov 4th...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 11/02/2008
- butchie65 I'm a Fan of butchie65 7 fans permalink

I read on another site McCain is going to use ," legal remedies," if he doesn't win. He claims there is voter fraud. Right, the only one that is a fraud is him and his campaign staff. 'Waaa, if I don't win, I'll cry foul !" What a jerk ! Can't wait until he is gone from the Senate as well. Can you imagine what his "Friend's," think of him now ? He won't have to wory about crossing the aisle, he won't have any friend's on his side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 11/02/2008
- Kiba I'm a Fan of Kiba 71 fans permalink
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Zogby's party weighting has been ridiculous. Now he's got a poll out that's more accurate because he doesn't want to look like a buffoon come Wednesday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 11/02/2008
- Sisto I'm a Fan of Sisto 3 fans permalink

Zogby is very right leaning and is way out of touch with mainstream America! I'm very surprised anyone is giving them any credibility except for Fox News of course!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 11/02/2008

I think he is right leaning also, and was very surprised when C-span teamed up with him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 11/02/2008
- ajax2 I'm a Fan of ajax2 24 fans permalink
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Zogby Changes Tune, Predicts Obama Win After Cindy McCain And Joe The Plumber Vote For Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 11/02/2008

The light pole picks Obama, as he can see the light. john finished right behnid the dog that lifted his leg.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 11/02/2008

Polls scmolls, who cares! What matters are electoral votes people. An Obama victory can't happen if we don't flood the polls and vote. Let's all do the real patriotic thing and VOTE, because our lives really depend on it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 11/02/2008
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