Zogby Poll Showing McCain Lead Interviews Fewer Democrats Than All Other Surveys

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First Posted: 11- 1-08 11:26 AM   |   Updated: 12- 2-08 05:12 AM

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On Saturday morning, Drudge trumpeted the latest one-day finding in John Zogby's latest three-day tracking poll on the presidential race. While Zogby's three-day average still shows a 5-point lead for Barack Obama over John McCain, the pollster notes on his site today that McCain led Obama by one point, 48 to 47, in the last day of surveys.

More cautious than Drudge, however, Zogby says that it's too early to declare that McCain has made decisive gains over Obama. "If McCain has a good day tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama's good day three days ago, and we could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now, hold on," Zogby writes.

But as the Huffington Post reported on Thursday when discussing the latest Fox News poll, Zogby has a unique methodology in his polling. He fixes -- or "weights" -- the partisan balance of his respondents, unlike most pollsters. While his admirably transparent and stable practice guarantees a certain methodological sameness from day to day, therefore making any new lead for McCain worth reporting, Zogby's partisan weighting can also raise other questions.

Asked earlier this week what the partisan weighting of their poll currently is, a Zogby aide told the Huffington Post: "Party ID remains at 38 Democratic - 36 Republican - 26 Independent. We have added a point for 18-29 [year old voters], 1.5 for African Americans, and 2 for Hispanics."

Earlier this year, Zogby told me that "party ID is a lead variable, and a major determinant in how people vote. I apply a weight to party ID, and if I see a reason for it to change, I will."

Still, Zogby's two point party ID advantage for Democrats is the smallest of any polling firm. The last four days of the Hotline/Diageo poll show anywhere from a four- to six-point advantage for Democrats -- and a simultaneous seven-point lead for Obama. Gallup's latest surveys indicate that Democrats have an 11-point advantage over Republicans in party ID (including what the firm describes as partisan "leaners").

Zogby's partisan makeup gives even less of a partisan advantage to Democrats than Fox's latest poll, which earned some skepticism, as well.

As for the day-to-day fluctuations in tracking polls, Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz says they are "almost entirely due" to random statistical error, or "noise."

"The trackers don't move in sync with each other -- one goes up, another goes down," he tells the Huffington Post. "This is what we are seeing today in fact. Already we see that Obama is down in Zogby but up in DailyKos and Rasmussen. No doubt we'll see more of the same in the next three days. There is no evidence here of any real trend toward McCain in either the national polls or the state polling as smart analysts like Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com and Mark Blumenthal and Charles Franklin of Pollster.com have shown."

For what it's worth, McCain lead pollster Bill McInturff sees things Zogby's way. In a Friday conference call with reporters, McInturff said "I don't see how you have party ID at negative 8 [percent for Republicans]. That's not America ... anywhere in the last generation and a half."

Aside from determining the next president, Tuesday's election might be used to settle a few scores in the polling profession, as well.

On Saturday morning, Drudge trumpeted the latest one-day finding in John Zogby's latest three-day tracking poll on the presidential race. While Zogby's three-day average still shows a 5-point lead for...
On Saturday morning, Drudge trumpeted the latest one-day finding in John Zogby's latest three-day tracking poll on the presidential race. While Zogby's three-day average still shows a 5-point lead for...
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That's so when they flip the votes, they can have cover. But this time no one is going to believe it. If Obama doesn't win, Democracy is over, and we live in a Banana Republic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 11/02/2008
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DO NOT WIMP OUT NOW! WE ARE COUNTING ON EACH OTHER!

Lines are long .......... take a cooler full of snacks and drinks!

YOU CAN THEN SIT ON THE COOLER WHILE IN LINE!

HAVE A PARTY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 11/02/2008
- Charity I'm a Fan of Charity 22 fans permalink
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i've already voted. the lines were constant, a flowing line in and out of the polling place. inside, it was very very noisey and not the best way for anyone to concentrate on the ballot before them. even though i had read all i needed to read ahead of time in regard to various proposed state amendments, i still went back over them to make sure i was exact in my vote. while doing this, the entire room sounded like a room full of noisey football fans. what about those voters around me who unfortunately took that time to read the long ballot for the very first time? i barely could do it and i knew what it said.

next time, with early voting we need to arrange better polling places. our branch library conference room wasn't large enough for the daily turnout, we had to vote using those damn flimsy plastic carrels positioned elbow to elbow and face to face. i voted and i am pleased i did it early, but the conditions i experienced were unlike any i've ever experienced at a polling place in all my years of voting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 11/02/2008

THE REASON MCCAIN SURGED AHEAD IN THE POLL CAN BE SEEN AT GOPTRUST.COM. THAT AD IS RUNNING IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES AT A HIGHER RATE THAN EVEN OBAMAS NEGATIVE ADS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 11/02/2008
- nwmother I'm a Fan of nwmother 31 fans permalink
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Surged ahead of what? All the poll says is that he may have experienced a 2 point bump and is still down by 4-6 points. And the poll is flawed and it's findings have been erased as of saturday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 11/02/2008
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Out of the countless polls out, McCain supporters are hanging their hats on this one flawed poll? When you see the Obama Tsunami casting a shadow over you,it's any port in a storm, I guess....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 11/02/2008

oh boy the tide is changing

one little poll of hundreds says that voters in texas and kansas and oklahoma are surging to mccain

but not in states where obama is running hard

time for palin to go back to wasilla and start pumping money into the local economy with the

Palin Bedroom Stimulus Package

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUMO6zc27gg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 11/02/2008
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Let's have a final push to the finish.

Call, text or email your family and friends -- newly registered especially. Ask them if they've voted early or will vote on Tuesday. Ask them if they got their mail in ballots to the county clerks.

Remind them. Encourage them. Offer to go with them if you've already voted.

It's important not to let up. Young people, especially, are not turning out as expected. CALL THEM and get them to the polls!!!

Then call your friends and tell them to call THEIR friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 11/02/2008

A day or so before the election in 2004 Zogby went on "The Daily Show" and said "John Kerry will be the next POTUS."

His polling stinks just as bad in 2008.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 11/02/2008
- kylie I'm a Fan of kylie 28 fans permalink

I don't think the "polling stunk" as much as ballots and registrations were purged.
Remember Ohio and Blackwell? Hundreds of thousands of names being dropped from the registers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 11/02/2008
- Matt7 I'm a Fan of Matt7 241 fans permalink

Look at that picture of Senator McCain!

My God! Let this be over soon, so that man can go to a doctor somewhere and take care of himself! I don't want him for my president, but watching what he (of necessity) is doing to his body, and putting his health at risk with all of the stress, makes me fearful for his well-being, and saddens me deeply.

I don't wish him ill. I just don't want him -- or Sarah -- anywhere near the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 11/02/2008

You know what I think? I think this is the last election I will give Zogby my eyeballs or attention. His credibility is shot!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 11/02/2008
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I have never been polled in my entire life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 11/02/2008

The absentee votes cast this weekend at the Hamilton County Ohio's BOE will not be counted until November 14th and the republicans are in charge. The lines were out the door and around the block, estimated 21,000 voters through this afternoon. George

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 11/02/2008
- kylie I'm a Fan of kylie 28 fans permalink

Maybe it's up to the American people to make the "election officials" accountable if ballots don't resemble the huge numbers of people waiting in those long lines to vote. Any "Video the Vote" going on in some of the "Battleground States"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 11/02/2008

Uwnbm *********

Mcain should never have thrown that stone!!! Kalibi and John go way back... But then what do you expect from his minions??? They didn't vett Palin, and half the crap they come up with on Obama wasn't true or John was there first.

You see you really ought to get the facts before you spew the hate!!

And to the person that said a 17 yr old girl could not have a Downs child??? Not true, Downs children are not born to older people exclusively, Younger healthy woman can also have a Downs Child!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 11/02/2008
- janvoght I'm a Fan of janvoght 8 fans permalink
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huh? the repubs attempting to STEAL another election? we all know how their strict end of days play book instructs them in these final days....cheat, lie, steal, threaten, fear monger, and yes what ever illegal tactics must be embraced, "the ends justify the means"
america does not need 4 more yrs of this!
obama/biden '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 11/02/2008
- bascombe I'm a Fan of bascombe 45 fans permalink
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why zogby has credibility is amazing to me. zogby does this all the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 11/02/2008
- Jmaan33 I'm a Fan of Jmaan33 2 fans permalink

IF YOU VOTE, this is what you will see
IF the election were held today:
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FiveThirtyEight.Com
http://www.fivethrityeight.com
McCain Obama
Probability of Win: 3.8% 96.2%
Expected Electoral Votes: 186.1 351.9
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Election-Projection.Net
http://www.election-projection.net/
McCain Obama
Probability of Win: 0.1% 99.9%
Expected Electoral Votes: 186.1 351.9
----------------------------------------------------------------
Electoral-Vote.Com
http://www.Electoral-Vote.com
McCain Obama
Probability of Win: --------- ---------
Expected Electoral Votes: 185 353
----------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE VOTE.....PLEASE DON'T
PASS UP THIS OPPORTUNITY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 11/01/2008
- Bond007 I'm a Fan of Bond007 2 fans permalink

The DL show is doing a lot of damage to Obama voters, white voters. CNN baited a foolish black guy and they got DL. I bet you when the show serves it purpose, CNN will promptly cancel it a day after the elections. Foolish is as foolish does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 11/01/2008

Why would anyone base their vote on a show? Are you saying that white voters are that stupid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 11/02/2008
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