MSNBC Vs. Fox News: Two Networks, Two Different Realities

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New York Times   |  JIM RUTENBERG   |   November 2, 2008 10:59 AM


It was a lousy day to be Senator John McCain, Keith Olbermann informed his viewers on MSNBC on Thursday.

Senator Barack Obama's surge in the polls was so strong he was competitive in Mr. McCain's home state, Arizona. The everyman hero of Mr. McCain's campaign, "Joe the Plumber," failed to make an expected appearance at a morning rally in Defiance, Ohio, and the senator's efforts to highlight Mr. Obama's association with a professor tied to the P.L.O. were amounting to nothing.

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It was a lousy day to be Senator John McCain, Keith Olbermann informed his viewers on MSNBC on Thursday. Senator Barack Obama's surge in the polls was so strong he was competitive in Mr. McCain's hom...
It was a lousy day to be Senator John McCain, Keith Olbermann informed his viewers on MSNBC on Thursday. Senator Barack Obama's surge in the polls was so strong he was competitive in Mr. McCain's hom...
 
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Hookworm hannity's days are numbered...............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 11/08/2008

Sean Hannity's insanity will eventually be phased out of American history. Under Obama, Americans will enjoy unity and "free will" which is what Hannity has been trying to keep from us with his show of insanity. Even his most loyal fans will eventually drop off and leave him alone once they realize life is so much better on the other side.

GOOD RIDDANCE HANNITY and your INSANITY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 11/04/2008

Sean Hannity is paid million of dollars each year to distort the truth, hate monger and prey on the fears of others He is an alarmist who is determined to undermine this election by constantly questioning the validity of Democratic votes. How is it that Republicans are always honest, never cheat or lie and certainly would never commit voter fraud to win an election? He is scared of Obama because the people supporting him aren't afraid to call Fox out on its distortions and lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 11/04/2008

People called into the O'Reilly radio show and he said he can't understand all this angst against Sean Hannity. He said Sean is a conservative and deserves a forum. Yes, Sean can have his forum but when he goes outside the issues to incite racial animosity then he's no talk show host, entertainer, reporter or whatever he calls himself. O'Reilly and others can't see thru Sean because they were raised with the same views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 11/03/2008

The truth is neither network gives the viewers anything close to reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 11/03/2008

The TRUTH is reality. MSNBC with Keith and Rachel gives the truth in their reporting. And if the truth happens to favor one side or the other, then so be it. Before they came along, we were not getting any truth at all. We were only getting biased opinions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 11/04/2008

I dont think either one knows the truth.If i was to have my way I would bring both net works up on charges.You should have the facts(ie.the truth) before you report on anything.I think the FCC needs to take along hard look at the networks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 11/08/2008

Finaly someone who knows what the hell they are talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 11/08/2008

My only problem with Olberman is when he cackles a bit too much in his competition with O'Reilly & Fox. Other than that, he brings up a lot of good issues and facts, while the others sometimes give too much time to a tiny part of the electorate.

If 9 out of 10 people believe one thing and 1 out of 10 believe in another, is a station fairer when it presents 1 person for the 9 out of 10 and 1 person for the 1 out of 10 to counter each other, giving each the same amount of time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 11/03/2008

He's having fun at what he's doing. He loves competing with O'Reilly because O'Reilly believes he is so smart and everything he says is the truth when it is NOT a lot of times and Keith loves snagging him with his untruth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 11/04/2008

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9560/foxbw3.jpg

Take a look and laugh

For the slow, on one part of the page Fox says its poll the race is tightening, on on another that it says its widening...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 11/03/2008

KO's angry clown act is offset by SH's stupidity. Both are ridiculous, but at least Hannity comes across as likeable. Keith seems unbalanced .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 11/03/2008

Now that is definitely a matter of opinion. I believe vice versa, Hannity is a "freak" of untruth and Keith is a man of truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 11/04/2008

2 different planets?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 11/03/2008
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MSNBC did a great job of fact finding on "Joe the Plumber" while FOX simply believed he was honest!
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McCain does not support the Middle Class! He is More Trickle Down like Bush!

"Joe the Plumber" is McCain's way to bring Reagonomics back into the discussion:

McCain could NOT say "Middle Class" in the debates as it appeared to "CHOCK" him, so he adopted "Joe the Plumber" as a surrogate for the Middle Class.

McCain uses "MAGIC MIRRORS" to portray "Joe of Wall Street" who wears a suit and tie and makes $500,000+ net income per year to look like "Joe the Plumber" who earns less than $45,000 net per year and wears a T-Shirt.

McCain knows "Joe of Wall Street" appears "Corrupt" in the minds of Middle Class voters!

But McCain thinks "Joe the Plumber" is acceptable to the Middle Class!

This lets McCain avoid the appearance of "SERVING the RICH" with TAX CUTS and instead makes it look like he is "Serving the Middle Class."

Obama's approach is honest and serves the Middle Class having incomes less than $250,000 Net.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 11/03/2008
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Keith Olberman = Sean Hannity = cloaca maximus

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 11/03/2008

"TWO DIFFERENT REALITIES" alright:

MSNBC - Fantasyland, Disneyland, Utopialand, Biasland = UNreality

FOX ----- -Fair-Balanced-Accountable-Honest-gets the truth to the public = REALITY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 11/03/2008
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Bwahahahahaha!....with coffee blowing out through the nose (I hate when that happens). That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 11/03/2008

Fox is about as fair and balanced as my a@@e!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 11/03/2008

That's why McCain won all the Presidential debates by 86%! So true!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 11/03/2008
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Please... I don't agree w/ these comparisons. Fox News has biased coverage when dealing with the candidates from Morning to Night. Their regular anchors report stories in a slanted toward the right way, MSNBC has mixed coverage during the day and Morning Joe in the morning, anyone who thinks Joe Scarborough is Obama friendly, uh... no.

i agree that Countdown and Maddow are Obama friendly shows (and I love it!) and at times Matthew's show is Obama friendly, although when he refers to white ppl as "average Americans" I don't find that helpful, but he does seem to have some sort of weird affection toward Obama. But c'mon they let right wingers get plenty of air time on that show, I mean Pat Buchanan is a regular on MSNBC for goodness sake. And he's constantly spewing his ultra-right/slightly racist propaganda. When liberals or "rationals" are allowed on Fox, they are talked down and over constantly, esp on prime time shows.

Not to mention, there is a lot more smear, rumor, and innuendo allowed on Fox. Olbermann may occasionally report a petty story or maybe even a rumor (rarely), but the facts are usually on the side of MSNBC commentators vs Fox

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 11/03/2008

There is no comparison between MSNBC and Fox. I don't even consider Fox as news....they're pathetic clowns, all of them!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 11/03/2008

Do people change their mind on the final day?
No.
Here's why:
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/11/do-people-change-their-minds-on-last.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 11/03/2008
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