Pollster Calms Paranoid Dems: McCain Win Would Be Exceptionally Improbable

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First Posted: 11- 4-08 12:21 PM   |   Updated: 12- 5-08 05:12 AM

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Even though every political and statistical indication points to an Obama victory tonight -- and a healthy one at that -- a certain brand of liberal paranoia persists. This is too good to be true, Democrats declare, fingers grasping at their hair. McCain is tightening the race in key states. The youth vote won't come out.

And so it goes.

But if in fact McCain were to win this election it would be, one of the nation's foremost pollster says, almost historically unprecedented.


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"There is no reason in history to suggest [Obama won't win]," said Frank Newport of Gallup. "All you can go by is history and compare our last polling that we have done before the election and the actual outcome in the presidential election... We have most polls showing Obama with a statistically significant lead nationally and also in these states. If he were to lose, it will be the first time since World War II something like this has happened. Now, keep in mind. It's a small sample, less than 20 elections, but it would be very unusual, in fact, exceptional... improbable."

Indeed, the last time that Gallup's final poll before the election did not accurately determine the winning candidate was 1948, when they stopped polling a week before Harry Truman's comeback victory against Thomas Dewey. Even in 1980, when Ronald Reagan staged a late comeback that turned into an electoral rout, Gallup caught glimmers of this trend just in time, showing the Gipper up three points in its last poll.

When it comes to the current election, the firm has Obama up eleven points in its final survey. But what should make Democrats more assured, said Newport, is that the Illinois Democrat has maintained a steady margin throughout the past month.

"Since September 15, Obama has been ahead in every poll we have conducted or any other polling I have seen and often by substantial margins," he said. "It is not like it is race in which McCain was leading and we are seeing some kind of shift for Obama, it has been Obama ahead pretty dominantly."

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Moreover, other polling firms are documenting similar trends -- a confluence of data that validates the larger picture.

"We are all using a measuring instrument to estimate a big population," said Newport. "It is like we have a giant lake and we are trying to estimate the bacteria percentage. So we take a sample and test it and that is what we are doing. But yes... if you have 15 scientists and they are all showing the same thing, that does give you more assurance that the lake has some bacteria."

There are, of course, Obama supporters who will remain unconvinced. And as evidence they could cite the polls leading up to the New Hampshire primary, which showed the Illinois Democrat in a similarly comfortable lead only to lose to Hillary Clinton by two points. Newport acknowledged that the primary fight in the Granite State gives him and others in the business pause -- he has yet to find a smoking gun to explain what happened, though he hinted that massive late-stage change in voter preference moved too quickly for polls to pick up.

But that was, for better or worse, an aberration. Pressed to quantify just how big a failure for the polling industry a McCain victory would represent, he didn't feel comfortable even following the hypothetical.

"Call me tomorrow," he replied. "Obviously when Gallup and other scientific polling organizations do our best... and if for some reason the actual voting out there didn't mirror, internally, what we were showing, it certainly would be a time where we would have to say, 'What are we doing wrong?'... But we will cross that bridge if we get there. Right now, we aren't crossing that bridge... It is improbable. But like I said, call me tomorrow."


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Even though every political and statistical indication points to an Obama victory tonight -- and a healthy one at that -- a certain brand of liberal paranoia persists. This is too good to be true, Dem...
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Call me extremely paranoid, but did the pollsters take into account the systematic voter disenfranchisment that seems to be occurring all over the country? No wonder the repubs have been so confident and according to one news account "almost giddy". Can someone (as Rachel Maddow says) please talk me down?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 11/04/2008
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 9 fans permalink

Yes, if the republicans win tonight, then all I can say is they were much better at voter caging and voter suppression techniques then the democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 11/04/2008
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you forget the ballots that will not be counted that "spoil" (overwhelmingly Dem), that are flipped by optical scanners or electronic black box machines, etc. --all the untraceable stuff

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 11/04/2008
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None of the polls factors in GOP mischief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 11/04/2008
- kace I'm a Fan of kace 3 fans permalink

The Black Panthers will take care of that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 11/04/2008

oh boy - you're right about the turnout...­....damn college kids looked at the line and said "screw that - lets go play madden 2009"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 11/04/2008

Nice try tr0II

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 11/04/2008
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McSames comparison to Truman is not going to work. Remember, people were mad at Truman for recognizing Israel and Jewish settlements. His support for the Israel almost cost him re-election in 1948. Get Real Get Obama/Biden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 11/04/2008
- kace I'm a Fan of kace 3 fans permalink

Are you intolerant of Jews? Whatever happened to tolerance for the disenfranchised? Are you a bigot? To only certain people? Jews? Blacks? Whites? Muslims? Mormons? Hindus? Prodestant? Catholic? Atheists? Agnostics? Just who do you hate? Or are you non- discrimato­ry....you just hate everybody (including yourself, I assume).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 11/04/2008

OMG...all over the internet there's reports of bad numbers for Obama...WT­F is going on??? I thought 1 xanax would be enough for now, looks like i need another.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 11/04/2008
- pokemon I'm a Fan of pokemon 16 fans permalink
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There, I feel better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 11/04/2008
- judyc I'm a Fan of judyc 116 fans permalink
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Obama needs people to make phone calls--check out DailyKos.

I can't do it--knocked on 400-500 doors in the last 2 days along with some phone calling. I'm a little older--and I'm blind exhausted.

Can some of you make 30-40 calls? Go to the Obama website to get the lists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 11/04/2008

what's even more exceptionally improbable is for the mccain field operation--i'm being kind--to deliver more than a handful of votes per congressional district

call the Obama operation the Snowball Effect

speaking of snow...tim­e for sarah to stay in wasila and work on her economic plan

Palin Bedroom Stimulus Package

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUMO6zc27gg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 11/04/2008

Hey everyone! There's an amazing video that makes fun of SARAH PALIN! The link is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00

Obama 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 11/04/2008
- AlexeiJ I'm a Fan of AlexeiJ 3 fans permalink

Here's some inspiring, feel-good Obama for everyone anxious about the tonight's outcome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf19H_sHMro&fmt=6

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 11/04/2008

Then why am I still having chest pains?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 11/04/2008
- 01202009 I'm a Fan of 01202009 52 fans permalink
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It seems as if the whole world is a.) out of its mind and b.) holding its breath. One writer in the London Times wants to know why we can’t even get voting to work. Another says he’s afraid Palin is going to end up as president. So gang members, we aren’t the only ones going out of our cotton-pickin’ minds!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 11/04/2008

Don't listen to the polls and pundits...­.VOTE!!!!!­!!!!!!! We must win with a resounding ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! YES WE CAN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 11/04/2008

Of course we Democrats are paranoid it's entirely feasible that the Republicans will try and pull something. Why do you think they're harping on the ACORN voter registration? And remember when Clinton was elected some people said I will not call him President!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 11/04/2008
- 01202009 I'm a Fan of 01202009 52 fans permalink
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That's okay! If anything happens, I've already sharpened my pitchfork and have two torches marinating in oil!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 11/04/2008

umm Acorn registered the starting line from the Dallas Cowboys to vote in Arizona, didn't they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 11/04/2008
- sportsjefe I'm a Fan of sportsjefe 2 fans permalink
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You can register Mickey Mouse 1 million times in one town, and it won't matter because our favorite Disney character will NEVER SHOW UP TO VOTE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 11/04/2008
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 157 fans permalink

"They" can call Obama anything they want. It will not matter. He will still be in the oval office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 11/04/2008
- Faithtoo I'm a Fan of Faithtoo 6 fans permalink

letter from my firend. continued.­...

People like McCarthy, a lifelong Democrat in government, is putting out TV ads, advising people of the leftist tactics trying to take over unions by taking away private voting for establishing unions. Unbelievable but true! Check it out. Do you question these things or just accept them? Lincoln (I think it was him) said, "evil prevails when enough good men do nothing".

And I risk your anger but I must speak out. Please read the following attached by Jack Wheeler after you read my note. It says it all. I am terrified with the thought that Obama could be our next president. I agree with everything Jack Wheeler says.

America was built on the free enterprise system. Obama is a Socialist. He associates with radicals and others who wish no good to America and want to change our country's government. Of course we have serious problems, but socialism is not the answer. Look at any country who is socialist. Are you looking closely?

Look at the abortion issue. Please look! Do you expect God to bless America when multiple millions of unborn have been killed. Partial birth abortion! That is infanticide! And Obama voted 2 times to ban the bill to protect the preservation of a baby's life when an abortion has been botched and the baby is born alive. They just leave it to die, heartlessly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 11/04/2008
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