Pollster Calms Paranoid Dems: McCain Win Would Be Exceptionally Improbable

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First Posted: 11- 4-08 12:21 PM   |   Updated: 12- 5-08 05:12 AM

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Even though every political and statistical indication points to an Obama victory tonight -- and a healthy one at that -- a certain brand of liberal paranoia persists. This is too good to be true, Democrats declare, fingers grasping at their hair. McCain is tightening the race in key states. The youth vote won't come out.

And so it goes.

But if in fact McCain were to win this election it would be, one of the nation's foremost pollster says, almost historically unprecedented.


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"There is no reason in history to suggest [Obama won't win]," said Frank Newport of Gallup. "All you can go by is history and compare our last polling that we have done before the election and the actual outcome in the presidential election... We have most polls showing Obama with a statistically significant lead nationally and also in these states. If he were to lose, it will be the first time since World War II something like this has happened. Now, keep in mind. It's a small sample, less than 20 elections, but it would be very unusual, in fact, exceptional... improbable."

Indeed, the last time that Gallup's final poll before the election did not accurately determine the winning candidate was 1948, when they stopped polling a week before Harry Truman's comeback victory against Thomas Dewey. Even in 1980, when Ronald Reagan staged a late comeback that turned into an electoral rout, Gallup caught glimmers of this trend just in time, showing the Gipper up three points in its last poll.

When it comes to the current election, the firm has Obama up eleven points in its final survey. But what should make Democrats more assured, said Newport, is that the Illinois Democrat has maintained a steady margin throughout the past month.

"Since September 15, Obama has been ahead in every poll we have conducted or any other polling I have seen and often by substantial margins," he said. "It is not like it is race in which McCain was leading and we are seeing some kind of shift for Obama, it has been Obama ahead pretty dominantly."

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Moreover, other polling firms are documenting similar trends -- a confluence of data that validates the larger picture.

"We are all using a measuring instrument to estimate a big population," said Newport. "It is like we have a giant lake and we are trying to estimate the bacteria percentage. So we take a sample and test it and that is what we are doing. But yes... if you have 15 scientists and they are all showing the same thing, that does give you more assurance that the lake has some bacteria."

There are, of course, Obama supporters who will remain unconvinced. And as evidence they could cite the polls leading up to the New Hampshire primary, which showed the Illinois Democrat in a similarly comfortable lead only to lose to Hillary Clinton by two points. Newport acknowledged that the primary fight in the Granite State gives him and others in the business pause -- he has yet to find a smoking gun to explain what happened, though he hinted that massive late-stage change in voter preference moved too quickly for polls to pick up.

But that was, for better or worse, an aberration. Pressed to quantify just how big a failure for the polling industry a McCain victory would represent, he didn't feel comfortable even following the hypothetical.

"Call me tomorrow," he replied. "Obviously when Gallup and other scientific polling organizations do our best... and if for some reason the actual voting out there didn't mirror, internally, what we were showing, it certainly would be a time where we would have to say, 'What are we doing wrong?'... But we will cross that bridge if we get there. Right now, we aren't crossing that bridge... It is improbable. But like I said, call me tomorrow."


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Even though every political and statistical indication points to an Obama victory tonight -- and a healthy one at that -- a certain brand of liberal paranoia persists. This is too good to be true, Dem...
Even though every political and statistical indication points to an Obama victory tonight -- and a healthy one at that -- a certain brand of liberal paranoia persists. This is too good to be true, Dem...
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- mlaiuppa I'm a Fan of mlaiuppa 41 fans permalink
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So it will be unprecedented. We're hearing it right now.

One machine in African American neighborhoods.

Ballots voided because poll workers failed to have voters sign in.

14 machines not working.

Over abundance of machines at one poll, dearth at another.

Paper ballots not delivered to poll despite law requiring them.

Voter intimidation.

Three states where flyers or phone calls have directed Democrats to vote on Wed. Nov. 5th. One perpetrator caught the the state refuses to prosecute or release the name.

And on it goes.

The GOP is systematically disenfranchising Democrats in order to steal the election. They become more emboldened each time. Even when it's obvious, it's dismissed. They are stealing votes through fraud.

This is the last time. The public is going to push for standardization of elections. We will no longer allow the GOP to deny anyone the right to vote and have their vote counted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 11/04/2008

I'm sick to my stomach and am getting worse. I am having a long anxiety attack. We have been f**ked before and we still haven't got the voting problems solved yet-So until they call it I will feel like this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 11/04/2008
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 549 fans permalink
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One word: martini.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 11/04/2008
- Pacific231 I'm a Fan of Pacific231 9 fans permalink

Two words: MAKE CALLS. Save the martini or champagne for Obama's victory speech.

http://my.barackobama.com/call

Do it ! You will be GLAD YOU DID!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 11/04/2008

The Obama's next address: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue... D.C.

The Obamas are Moving On UP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf3uGsMxsoQ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 11/04/2008

hahha awesome video of palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 11/04/2008
- AlphaMutt I'm a Fan of AlphaMutt 2 fans permalink

And I'm a lifelong Phillies phan...IT CAN HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 11/04/2008
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I'm a die hard Dallas Cowboy fan, and that's not working out to good for me.., Moral of this story, stay vigilant, pray that we keep the repubs honest, by staying one step ahead of them! NOT THIS TIME!

Obama~Biden!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 11/04/2008

GOAL NUMBER ONE... get out of IRAQ (which will also help the economy)
GOAL NUMBER TWO... jobs jobs jobs
GOAL NUMBER THREE... universal health care

GOALS NUMBER FOUR - FOUR HUNDRED.... while the democrats are in power they have the ability to FIX THE VOTING MACHINES.... one person one vote... not 2, not 0... JUST 1.

If this is fixed.... I could see the DEMS in power for years..... BUT try not to be too trusting.... and don't act surprized when the other side "CHEATS"... just fix it and guard it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 11/04/2008

RESTORE THE FAIRNESS IN MEDIA ACT!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 11/04/2008

Of course we are paranoid....my first vote for Prez was in 1980...I have always voted for Democrats.....let me see, how many times did I vote for the winner???? Twice. Bill Clinton, three if count Gore in 2000. Me, I am sick of voting for the guy who loses. Even with a zillion polls predicting Obama, with my crappy track record, I have reason to be fearful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 11/04/2008

Reason for paranoia: vote fraud. The National Association of Trial Lawyers (AAJ, for American Association for Justice) and other progressive legal groups are part of a national "voting protection" project to deal with problems at the polls are reporting widespread caging, voter intimidation, electronic voting machine malfunctions, fraud and other abuses in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Georgia, Michigan, Colorado and Ohio.

This has to stop. We cannot have a repeat of the 'stolen' elections of 2000 and 2004.

There's an easy, three-word solution to this: VOTE. BY. MAIL. This is what we do in Oregon. Problem solved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 11/04/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 284 fans permalink

Just because we're paranoid,

Doesn't mean the GOP

Isn't trying to steal the election.

VOTE!!!!!

CALL VOTERS!!!

LANDSLIDE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 11/04/2008
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Absolutely; and for anyone that still has nightmares about the 2000 Election, don't get comfortable yet, just remember, NOT THIS TIME, NOT EVER AGAIN, don't let the Repubs think for one minute,
they are not being watched; call it paranoia if you want, it is what it is; they will do ANYTHING!

Obama~Biden, Change on the way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 11/04/2008
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And Just because the GOP is trying to steal the election doesn't mean it will work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 11/04/2008
- fitCTmom I'm a Fan of fitCTmom 3 fans permalink

I'll believe it when I see it! Old models of predicting don't work this time...Barack is black, Pumas, Sarah Nuts, and the bradley effect...Oh yeah and does anyone NOT remember New Hampshire?

I'll need a bottle of wine, Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow to get me though the next 8 hours!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 11/04/2008
- Gericault I'm a Fan of Gericault 10 fans permalink
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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/4/153043/224/133/652783

Action: Just received urgent email from Obama Campaign

National Call Team,

Barack needs your help right now -- our data indicates that the results will
be very close in many states. I can't emphasize enough how urgent this
message is. Please go to our website and start calling as soon as you can.

We are not going to hit our goal of 500,000 calls for today by 3pm Central, unless we get at least 2,000 more people calling for the next hour.

Can you call now and continue for as long as you can manage?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 11/04/2008
- FatherWolf I'm a Fan of FatherWolf 21 fans permalink

The last hurdle is the Repub dirty tricks, voter suppression, and mysteriously malfunctioning voting machines.

Hopefully the tide of voters will wash over these barriers.

But seriously, folks, this country runs the voting process like a third-rate country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 11/04/2008

Polls smolls, VOTE!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 11/04/2008
- Yarrr I'm a Fan of Yarrr 8 fans permalink

I'm a bit paranoid because in the last, what, 25 years we've had one democrat president. What exactly does that mean?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 11/04/2008
- paulfree17 I'm a Fan of paulfree17 11 fans permalink

I just heard about the 7-11 Cup Poll. In 2004 Red Cups outsold blue cups 55 - 45. This year blue cups are outselling red cups by 60 - 40. In PA it is 63 - 37.

So I think we can call it.......

Unless someone is stacking the cups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 11/04/2008
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lol; don't be too trustful..., shake them down, and ask for voter registration to verify they deserve the BLUE cup!!! :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 11/04/2008
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