Coleman Declares Victory In MN; Recount Likely

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BRIAN BAKST and PATRICK CONDON | November 5, 2008 07:51 PM EST | AP

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Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., claims victory in his reelection bid as his wife Laurie, left, looks on during a news conference Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2008 in St. Paul, Minn., after the unoffical vote tally showed Coleman and Democrat Al Franken in one of Minnesota's tightest Senate elections that appears certain to trigger a recount. (AP Photo/Jim Mone)

ST. PAUL, Minn. — A slugfest for nearly two years, Minnesota's U.S. Senate race headed into a new round Wednesday as the campaigns girded for an automatic statewide recount to determine whether Republican Sen. Norm Coleman's bare lead over Democratic challenger Al Franken would stand.

Coleman declared himself the winner of Tuesday's election, but Franken said he would let the recount play out, hoping it would erase the incumbent's 475-vote lead out of nearly 2.9 million ballots. State officials said the recount wouldn't start until mid-November and would probably take weeks.

If he hangs on, Coleman would be among the Republicans who survived Democratic gains in Senate races nationwide. Democrats ousted two Republican incumbents and picked up three seats held by retiring GOP incumbents. Three other Republicans besides Coleman were trying to hang on in races too close to call.

"Yesterday the voters spoke. We prevailed," Coleman said Wednesday at a news conference. He noted Franken could opt to waive the recount.

"It's up to him whether such a step is worth the tax dollars it will take to conduct," Coleman said, telling reporters he would "step back" if he were in Franken's position. Secretary of State Mark Ritchie said the recount would cost 3 cents per ballot, or almost $90,000.

As counties and Ritchie's office reconciled their unofficial vote totals Wednesday, Coleman's margin fluctuated but was at 475 votes Wednesday afternoon: Coleman had 1,211,642 votes, or 41.99 percent of the total votes cast, while Franken had 1,211,167 votes, or 41.98 percent.

Dean Barkley of the Independence Party was third with 15.16 percent.

State law provides for automatic recounts in races decided by a half-percentage point or less.

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"We won't know for a little while who won the race, but at the end of the day we will know the voice of the electorate is clearly heard," Franken said Wednesday. "This has been a long campaign, but it is going to be a little longer before we have a winner."

Franken said his campaign was looking into reports of irregularities in Minneapolis, where some voters had trouble registering, though he didn't elaborate.

"We'll all have to be vigilant and work together to complete this recount successfully," his attorney, David Lillehaug, said.

Coleman said he had hoped that "the healing process would begin today" but indicated he would nonetheless begin preparations for a second term.

"My focus from here on out is giving Minnesotans the leadership they deserve in these challenging times," Coleman said.

Ritchie, a Democrat, said a recount wouldn't begin until Nov. 19 and could stretch into December. It would involve hand counts by local election officials from around the state, and lawyers from both campaigns would be allowed to observe.

"No matter how fast people would like it, the emphasis is on accuracy," Ritchie said.

Ritchie's office ran a speedy recount in September of a close primary race for a Supreme Court seat. That took just three days, but Ritchie said the Senate race is different.

"Having a ton of lawyers and other partisans injected into the process, that will change the dynamics of it," Ritchie said.

Each ballot will be inspected manually. Ballots with improper or stray marks could be analyzed to determine voter intent, but partisan observers can challenge those they deem questionable. The five-member state canvassing board votes later on the challenged ballots.

Election experts said that recounts, even on a large scale, don't often reverse the initial vote count.

"They sometimes get closer," said Bob Stein, a political scientist at Rice University in Houston who studies elections and voting. "They just don't flip very much."

But it's not unheard of. In the 2004 governor's race in Washington state, the initial vote count put Republican Dino Rossi 261 votes ahead of Democrat Christine Gregoire.

A machine recount narrowed that margin further, finding a 42-vote Rossi win. After that, the state undertook a second, hand recount of ballots that gave the win to Gregoire by 129 votes. She was inaugurated soon after, but Republicans sued to overturn the results. The case dragged on until June, when a judge rejected Rossi's legal efforts.

Minnesota and Washington both use optical-scan ballots that voters mark by hand.

The photo finish in this year's Senate race came after nearly two years of intense, sometimes bitter competition between Coleman, one of the state's most durable politicians, and Franken, who made his name as a writer and performer on "Saturday Night Live."

The candidates spent $30 million attacking each other on the airwaves. Millions more poured into the race from national parties and outside groups, leaving both men with high negatives in voters' eyes.

An analysis of exit poll data showed Franken wasn't able to win over independent voters at the same rate as fellow Democrat Barack Obama, providing a clue as to why his race ended with such a tight margin.

ST. PAUL, Minn. — A slugfest for nearly two years, Minnesota's U.S. Senate race headed into a new round Wednesday as the campaigns girded for an automatic statewide recount to determine whether ...
ST. PAUL, Minn. — A slugfest for nearly two years, Minnesota's U.S. Senate race headed into a new round Wednesday as the campaigns girded for an automatic statewide recount to determine whether ...
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What are the statistical odds that this race can be so close considering that a well-liked celebrity is running against an scandal-ridden, unpopular, Republican politician with exit polls showing a 12 point lead for Al Franken? 1 in a bazillion is what it is. Do not concede Mr. Franken. You have the attention of America so now expose the fraud.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 11/07/2008
- ptobe I'm a Fan of ptobe 5 fans permalink

Typical Republican attitude towards democracy - they don't care to be sure what the people want, they just want to be in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 11/07/2008
- JayeSF I'm a Fan of JayeSF 24 fans permalink

"Election experts said that recounts, even on a large scale, don't often reverse the initial vote count.

"They sometimes get closer," said Bob Stein, a political scientist at Rice University in Houston who studies elections and voting. "They just don't flip very much."

Um...wwwww­wwellllll.­....maybe that's true when you are talking a spread of several thousand votes....b­ut this is a ridiculously small difference­...between 300-500 votes, in a state the size of Minnesota.­...which had a huge voter turnout.

It is actually very possible, if not downright likely, that a margin this small would flip on a recount.

That's probably why normie...r­ather that recognize state law...is doing all he can to leverage against the recount. For lil' normie to argue that determining who truly is the senator from Minnnesota is not worth $90,000...­what a lame piece of sh#t he continues to be....it'l­l be nice to have him gone....

Way to go, Al...and kudos to Mr. Ritchie for doing what law says is right and just. The law's the law...some­thing certain '08 republican incumbents just...fai­l to understand­.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 11/06/2008
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I find it hard to believe, that Obama wins by a landslide, and Franken is tied with Coleman. That doesn't add up to me, does it add up to YOU?????????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 11/06/2008

Really dirty campaign by Norm the Bush Water Boy. You know, Al wrote dirty jokes....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 11/06/2008

Agree that the authors made an oversight by not even mentioning the third candidate who is drawing 15% of the vote, Dean Barkley of the Independence party. Similar to 1992 with Perot in the race, having a third candidate makes polling trickier.

I followed Nate Silber of 538 before the MSM did, but for the latest results, why not go to the source? The MN Sec of State shows Coleman ahead by 500-odd votes. That won't change until the recount.

http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20081104/ElecRslts.asp?M=S&R=all&P=A&Races=%27%27

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 11/05/2008
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 146 fans permalink
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If the independent candidate were really the issue then how would you account for the exit polls showing Al leading? It seems unlikely that 62K independent votes in the Presidential race really balloon to 463K in the Senate race. A 751% increase in independent voting. Just seems like too much.

At the site you reference, there are nearly 25,000 votes less for the Senate race than for the Presidential race. Where are these votes? I understand that there are 10,000 votes missing from the Twin Cities area that would favor Franken if found and counted.

I don't believe that so many people who cared enough to vote for President would not take a stand on the Senate race. And I don't believe that people who voted for Obama would vote for Norm Coleman.

It all seems too unlikely.

Keep counting Minnesota!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 11/08/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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We need Al Franken, in The United States Senate..!

Go Al...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 11/05/2008
- Clayton139 I'm a Fan of Clayton139 25 fans permalink
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YES ! Al Franken should WIN that ! I hope !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 11/05/2008

We also need to know if the GOP helped to financially support the "Independent" Party with some ca$H. i think that Normie would know and understand that Dean would take more votes from Al then it would from him, and the Repugs would bank on that.

Between his buddy buying his suits (and what else, Norman?), and his other buddy paying his rent (yeah, sure, you paid your utility bills buy selling him furniture- I gotta bridge for you to buy in Brooklyn Center, you louse!), this crooked bastard has to go. I can't wait to see if he carried any part of St. Paul. I bet none of us voted for him, AGAIN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 11/05/2008
- bobhobard I'm a Fan of bobhobard 2 fans permalink

Uhhm-suggest you guys check in on 538.com. Franken is leading Coleman by 2%. Just because Coleman called the race doesn't mean it's over. While visiting 538, take a look at the Stevens race in Alaska. he's losing now. 60 votes is no longer impossible in the Senate. Chambliss is looking at a runoff election in Georgia. If the Dems move in and deliver that race to Martin, we are in place for a fillibuster-proof Senate. If Franken holds on, if Jeff Merkley in Oregon can win (Multnomah is the big Portland Democratic engine and is largely outstanding), then it is increasingly likely that the Dems will converge on Georgia for the next four weeks to try to win the 60th Senate seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 11/05/2008

Check the timestamp on that posting. it was at 2 am last night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 11/05/2008
- magen I'm a Fan of magen 14 fans permalink

GOP voter suppression and fraud in effect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 11/05/2008
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Hope those ethics charges kick in and stick!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 11/05/2008
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Don't give up Al!! What's wrong with that state? They re-elected that nutjob Bachmann too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 11/05/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 374 fans permalink
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Coleman lied in his *acceptance* speech - he said that Franken was requesting the recount on the taxpayer dime, wrong, it's automatic because of the closeness of the race.

I pray to DOG that more of Coleman's ethical issues come out and that Franken finds the votes he needs for a win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 11/05/2008
- DMcD I'm a Fan of DMcD 11 fans permalink
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This (and Cindy Sheehan's defeat) is the only bad news I've heard ------ Frankin is a "must".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 11/05/2008

Don't forget Stevens in Alaska. And Prop 8 in California.

Generally a good election but some real sore spots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 11/05/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

Are you telling me Stevens won? I'm amazed if this is true. And I'm NOT a 'lefty. I'm a independent libertarian. What were those voters smoking? That guy is a convicted felon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 11/05/2008
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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come on Al, win this thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 11/05/2008

What a horrible sad, sad day for Minnesota.

You re-elect that witc.h Bachmann.

And to top it, you re-elect a guy who ill.egally funnels money from donors into his private coffers, buys expensive suits on your tax dollars, and runs slea.zy smear campaigns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 11/05/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 374 fans permalink
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*Minnesota* did not vote for Bachmann, the loonybirds in the Sixth District voted for Bachmann. Many of us outside of that district worked hard against her, but we don't get a vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 11/05/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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What is wrong with the people of Minnesota.­..?

They didn't yet elect Al Franken in a landslide he deserved, and they sent that hateful bi-polar witch Bachman back to our Congress..­!

The water up there must be loaded with lead and PCP's..!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 11/05/2008
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So how do you explain CA and Proposition H8? Something in the water?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 11/05/2008
- Manchurian I'm a Fan of Manchurian 6 fans permalink

Something in the water...in Utah.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 11/05/2008
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The same holds true for Alaska. It looks like Stevens is headed back to the Senate--albeit, hopefully, for a short stint. The Senate needs to boot him out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 11/05/2008
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The senate should NOT boot Stevens. That would simply allow Palin to replace him. Better to have his felonious a$$ tied to the GOP. Like an anchor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 11/05/2008
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