Karzai Demands Obama End Civilian Deaths

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NOOR KHAN and JASON STRAZIUSO | November 5, 2008 02:50 PM EST | AP

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Former Taliban militants are seen during a ceremony where they handed over their weapons to the Afghan government in the city of Heart province, south west of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, Nov. 2, 2008. Around 30 Taliban militants from Herat and Farah provinces handed in their weapons to the Afghan government, as part of a peace-reconciliation program in the center of Heart province. (AP Photo/Fraidoon Pooyaa)

WECH BAGHTU, Afghanistan — The Afghan president congratulated Barack Obama and called on him Wednesday to halt civilian casualties as villagers said U.S. warplanes bombed a wedding party, killing 37 people _ most of them children.

President Hamid Karzai said airstrikes cannot win the fight against terrorism.

"Our demand is that there will be no civilian casualties in Afghanistan. We cannot win the fight against terrorism with airstrikes," Karzai said. "This is my first demand of the new president of the United States _ to put an end to civilian casualties."

Karzai spoke about the deaths at a news conference held to congratulate Obama on his election victory.

Obama has talked about the issue of civilian deaths in the past. In remarks in August that drew criticism from Republicans, he said: "We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there."

The U.S. military said it was investigating the deaths from bombing of remote Wech Baghtu in the southern province of Kandahar. A villager said American forces had given them permission to bury the dead, which he said included 23 children and 10 women.

A U.S. spokesman, Cmdr. Jeff Bender, added that "if innocent people were killed in this operation, we apologize and express our condolences."

Abdul Jalil, a 37-year-old grape farmer whose niece was getting married, told an Associated Press reporter at the scene of the bombing that U.S. troops and Taliban fighters had been fighting about a half mile from his home.

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Fighter aircraft destroyed his compound and killed 37 people, Jalil said. Karzai's office said the attack killed about 40 people and wounded 28. The bodies were buried before the AP reporter arrived, and he could not verify the death toll.

Mohammad Nabi Khan, who witnessed the bombing, told AP at the main hospital in Kandahar city that two of his sons, ages 4 and 11, and his wife's brother were among the dead.

"What kind of security are the foreign troops providing in Afghanistan?" he asked.

Wedding parties in Afghanistan are segregated by gender, explaining why so many women and children could have died.

In a statement from his office, Karzai condemned the civilian deaths and urged military forces to avoid Afghan villages and instead concentrate on the "sources" of terrorism, a clear reference to Pakistan.

Civilian casualties, which undermine popular support for the Afghan government and the international mission, have long been a point of friction between Karzai and the U.S. or NATO.

According to an AP count of civilian deaths this year, U.S. or NATO forces have killed at least 275 civilians, while 590 have died from militant-caused violence like suicide bombs.

The airstrikes in Kandahar come three months after the Afghan government found that a U.S. operation killed some 90 civilians in the a western village. After initially denying any civilians had died there, a U.S. report concluded that 33 civilians were killed.

Following that operation, Karzai said relations between Afghanistan and the United States were seriously damaged.

Jalil said American forces came into his village late Monday night or Tuesday morning _ after the bombing run _ and searched the villagers and detained some men.

Jalil said he told the Americans that they could search his vineyards and his home but that they wouldn't find any militants.

Elsewhere in Kabul, Gen. David Petreaus, the new chief of U.S. Central Command, met with Afghan Defense Minister Gen. Abdul Rahim Wardak and assured officials that Obama's victory will not change U.S. commitment to Afghanistan, an Afghan official said.

"Until Afghanistan can stand on its own feet the United States will help," Defense Ministry spokesman Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi quoted Petreaus as saying.

Many observers expect the U.S. military to change its focus from Iraq to Afghanistan under an Obama administration.

Karzai said he hopes the election will "bring peace to Afghanistan, life to Afghanistan and prosperity to the Afghan people and the rest of the world." He applauded America for its "courage" in electing Obama.

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Associated Press writers Jason Straziuso, Fisnik Abrashi and Rahim Faiez contributed to this report from Kabul.

WECH BAGHTU, Afghanistan — The Afghan president congratulated Barack Obama and called on him Wednesday to halt civilian casualties as villagers said U.S. warplanes bombed a wedding party, killin...
WECH BAGHTU, Afghanistan — The Afghan president congratulated Barack Obama and called on him Wednesday to halt civilian casualties as villagers said U.S. warplanes bombed a wedding party, killin...
 
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While I agree with his sentiments, I'm not sure it's the most diplomatic or efficient way to further his agenda...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 11/07/2008
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The deaths of innocent men, women and little children is lamentable, how can it be avoided?

It's understandable that President Hamid Karza want's this to end, but if he requires America to fight a war with one hand tied behind its back, then, President Obama should withdraw our troops and allow the Afghans to fight the war the way they deem fit.
War is a horrible business, there can be no gurantees of anyones safety, including his own!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 11/07/2008

He should direct that demand to Bush. I don't think there is much Obama can do right now.
The blind loyalty from the right was mind blowing and I'm hopeful the days of worshiping politicians are over but I'm certainly not holding my breath. Obama hasn't event taken office yet and people are already becoming defensive. Praise the man when he does well but when he doesnt' (and every president makes mistakes) don't give him a free pass. Don't make anyone who legitimately criticises Obama an enemy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 11/06/2008

What's wrong with Him?
Give the president-elect a break.
His mother just died and you are already demanding things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 11/06/2008

The US has been indiscriminately slaughtering civilians in Afghanistan for years now, who are you you to tell him he has no place demanding it end? What the hell does O's grandmother have to do with anything? You care more about one person than millions of other innocents going through hell. Get some perspective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 11/06/2008
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That would be Grandmother just died!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 11/07/2008

Demand?

Who is doing the translating here? How do we know he used such strong language?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 11/06/2008
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Karzai speaks English.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 11/07/2008

We agree.

We will be more than happy to leave.

Good luck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 11/06/2008
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I meant to say I've always enjoyed Karzai's choice of headgear, though it has a Gomer Pyle aspect to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 11/06/2008
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I've always Karzai's hat, though it has a Gomer Pyle aspect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 11/06/2008
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Someone should let this man know that 1) Bush is still the President until Jan 20, 2009 and 2) he should not DEMAND President elect Obama, he REQUESTS President elect Obama to end the violence in his country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 11/06/2008
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When your people are getting blown up by the dozens you kind of lose your sense of protocol , methinks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 AM on 11/07/2008

uh, Hamid, you ARE still aware that Bush is still making the official calls until January, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 11/06/2008

The only thing Bush officially is, is incompetent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 11/06/2008

I think Karzai is so eager to get someone in the WH that he can actually tlak to, that he can't wait until Jan 20, 2009.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 11/06/2008

Bush is so totally irrelevant and incompetent and everyone on the planet knows it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 11/06/2008

He might want to wait until he's sworn in before placing demands. He does understand that until Jan.19th Bush is still President, right???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 11/06/2008

If George could actually act like it just once in a while without being flagrantly incompetent then maybe yes, someone somewhere might think he was President. But until that happens I for one agree with all those who think otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 11/06/2008
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Ummmm?????? You speaking to me??? Karzai has found his nuts......We should think regime change in Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 11/06/2008

Hey there. I don't recall this demanding being done to Bush. If he thinks Obama is a wuss, he's about to find out that he isn't. And Obama's team and the man himself ain't gonna like such a calling out before President-elect is even in office and done anything. He may be desperate for a new US government -- we all are. But a little respect here please Mr. Karzai.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 11/06/2008
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First of all we dont know this guys exact wording, second of all he has asked Bush over and over and notihing has happend, third is the whole bombing of civilians are unacceptable.

This isnt the first time airstrikes hit a wedding.

Here is a hint of what happen, some of the local clans shall have a wedding, enemy clans sell information as terrorist gatherings to USA for they have put bounty on taliban and al queda gatherings and the clans look on this as a way to get rid of competioners. US do an airstrike without check the info twice all they see is alot of armed ppl on the ground. Bombs fall and no talibans was even hurt but alot of civilians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 11/06/2008

There isn't a government leader around who deserves less respect than George Bush. I don't blame Karzai one bit - Mr. Bush has done nothing but wreck havoc in his country, and put all of us at greater risk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 11/06/2008

Pay attention.

Karzai has been complaining about civilian deaths for more than a year, that I know of.

"Demands" is the Huffpo headline writers inflating things again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 11/06/2008

Thank you for this reminder. They do often inflate headlines...sometimes to a point where it's almost ridiculous. I appreciate your comment very much, spartanmom and stand corrected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 11/06/2008

He needs to read the Huffington Post more often...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 11/06/2008
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