Source Of "Infanticide" Smear Says America Elected "A Barbarian"

Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash of abortions of "born alive" babies at a Chicago hospital snowballed into the election-season charge that Obama supported "infanticide," wrote Thursday:

"Barack Obama was elected president despite the fact he supports abortion into the fourth trimester. [Ed. Note: Stanek uses "fourth trimester" deliberately to indicate abortions of children who are nevertheless "born alive."] Either the 63 million people voting for him didn't know about his radical record, which includes abandoning abortion survivors to die, didn't care, or didn't believe it."

Because several "anti-life" ballot initiatives also passed on Tuesday, Stanek said to her World Net Daily audience that "we are fooling ourselves if we think the United States is still a Christian nation," adding: "Its people just elected a barbarian as president."

The notion, pushed hard by Stanek and others, that Obama favored infanticide because he once voted "present" on a number of Illinois state senate bills was one that the Obama campaign pushed back against during the campaign. Obama's "Fight the Smears" website (apparently now offline) said the president-elect had voted against a bill containing language designed to protect infants who were 'born alive,' because such protections were already part of Illinois state law, and because the Stanek-supported bill was, at the time, opposed by the Illinois Medical Society.

Rick Winkel, the Illinois Republican who introduced the bill in the state Senate, even wrote in September that "none of those who voted against SB-1082 favored infanticide," despite his disagreement with them.

Nevertheless, Stanek is not giving up the ghost, calling on churches across America to take up a more explicit fight in the public policy arena of abortion. "It is your responsibility, pastor and church leaders, to teach your people that abortion is abominable, and before that to teach chaste living," she wrote. "And before that, at the risk of making my Protestant friends flip, to teach that the contraceptive/sterilization mentality, which considers children bad, not blessings, is also a component of the sexual demise of our country."

Comments

[quizh]

Thank God for Obama for standing up to these fanatical goons. I learned something during this election: Never to back down, never to cease, never to let go of a smear. The ultra-batshit crazy conservatives are still out there and planning to push hard to bury his presidency. We must push back. For every one of them, 10 of us must stand up and fight. We have to catapult the country from the 1st century to 21st century. As Obama adequately stated, the 3rd trimester abortion can be reconsidered for evaluation and ultimately prevented as long as the health of the mother is at risk. Terminating pregnancy at 8th week is not infanticide, no matter how you look at it. The solution should be sensible and rational -- mostly focused on the preventive measure which once again, Obama has emphasized yet the other side doesn't even want to engage itself in.

[Harbinger08]

LOL. Losers can rant all they want, they're still losers.

[Keo]

The United States of America was NOT founded as a "christian nation."
The idea that the USA was founded as a "christian nation" is a fallacy which has been perpetuated by religious zealots and, more recently, right wing nutjobs.
Ironically, the nutjobs who cite this fallacious notion as support for their anti-choice stances are shooting themselves in their flat feet. By citing "scripture" as the reason to outlaw abortion, they are proving to the world that their position is completely indefensible except on religious terms.
Note to all religious zealots, right wing nutjobs, and anti-choice crusaders: the men and women who founded this nation and wrote our constitution did so in order to create a country whose laws were free of overt religious doctrine. In other words, we don't make our laws here on the basis of what the bible, or any other religious doctrine, tells us. You want to live in a theocratic state? Try Saudi Arabia. They make all their laws there based on scripture. You'd be much happier there.

[aequitas07]

well said.

[orchidspin]

Amen!

[EducatedVoterMO]

Outstanding - Very well said!

[Takae]

The ironic thing is, as folklore goes, the Mayflower settlers came to the US to get away from religious prosecutors in the UK. :/

[aequitas07]

I'm truly sick and tired of hearing these right-wing conservatives gripe about how America is no longer a christian country. silly me, here i was thinking we had a little something called separation of church and state, there i go again with my 'anti-America', 'pro-terrorist' 'radical' leftist ideas.

[hmmmmm]

it is still a FREE country, and you madam are FREE TO LEAVE. anytime you want.

[pupbayer]

Love it or leave it? That's sooooooooo 60's...soooooo Nixon. Get a grip on yourself.

[RationalDubSteppa]

Well we can do without the snake-handlers.

[Capano]

Does this idiot know that Many GOP Congressmen support "Woman's Choice'?

I bet she's on James Dobson's and Pat Robinson's mailing list if supprters

[ElectricEye]

Barbarian? He must mean Bush.

[tea in the harbor]

Didn't we just have one of those good Christians in the White House? And didn't he take us to war on a whim? Set up Black Prisons around the world? Make the use of torture American policy? And cause a worldwide economic collapse?

From where I stand, you Christians got some 'splainin to do!

[gisellestwocents]

This woman is funny, actually. She doesn't even realize who she is insulting.

President-elect Obama NEVER had an abortion. I seriously doubt that he EVER advised anyone to do so. And I am quite sure he was never in the operating room directing any physician to perform any such procedure.

So this woman's rhetoric is accomplishing two things. Annoying a lot of neutral observers and insulting a whole lot of people, but President-elect Obama isn't one of them.

Hilarious stuff. I feel for the poor Republicans...

[lifeisart]

Too bad there is no cure for the pandemic of ignorance. These ugly comments are even being spewed by the twelve year olds I teach because they hear all this garbage at home. Yesterday they said Obama was going to enlist all boys in to the military as soon as they turn 16! Today another commented that all married people under the new President Obama could only have one baby or else they'd have to have an abortion! All this rubbish is spoken in front of innocent minds---and you wonder why all this ignorance never ends? Wonder no more.

[RationalDubSteppa]

Oh there's a cure, close the churches... LOL!

[VeroucaSalt]

I sincerely hope you are offering corrections to that inanity!

[indepavoter9]

I wonder if she ALSO used "air quotes" to talk about women's health when she made this statement. This lady should choose her words a little bit more carefully.

[Emmasdaddy]

Regarding the argument made on my previous comment, you claim 85% of americans are believe in god.

that might be true, 85% might believe in A god but that does not necessarily imean the christian bible.

Also believing in god doesn't mean you are necessarily religious in the theological sense, just spiritual.

I believe abortion is very unfortunate, yet like Obama i am a rational adult and understand that no matter how much we try to legislate against it, it is still going to happen.

Honestly the best we can do is educate people about how to avoid unwanted pregnancy, provide contraception and affordable health care through organizations like planned parenthood and safe facilities and services should abortion be deemed the only option for someone.

Burying your head in the sand and pleading to your imaginary friend in the sky will not make this problem go away, but trying to ban it or ignore it will most certainly make it far worse.

[Powderfinger]

I don't want to live in a Christian nation, or a Muslim nation or any religious nation.

I'm quite happy right here in the United States, where I'm STILL guaranteed freedom OF religion and freedom FROM religion. Even Bush couldn't succeed in taking that away.

You got your beliefs, and I got mine.

[mlaiuppa]

Stanek: This is not a "christian" nation. Separation of church and state. This nation was founded as a secular nation in which all religions are allowed to practice freely. That also means that no one religion can dictate to anyone else their own religious beliefs. Especially not through the law.

So suck it up and get over it.

[BernieBernie]

People please try to understand this. Their's two types of Christianity in America. One is the right which happen to be a fascism that promotes the false doctrine of Christ. This fascism has found it's way into every non/denominational church in America. The members( idolize) their church leaders with a manison, expensives cars,clothing,jewelry,salary including the mega church for worship,other social activities.They 're hypocrites,an extremely dangerous cult,it's members are brainwashed to the truth of word of Christ.
Then you have the Left. The true Body of Christ. They idol no person,place or thing. No mega church. You will know them by their actions. They do not participate in any worldly discussions nor are they judgmental about others. They're discernment is for the salvation of people.

During the election this fascism( right ) was active with deceit /deception and embolden to promote their agenda back into the White House. (Watch these individuals/groups carefully!)
Peace Be With You,

[Larkinvos]

What Jill Stanek doesn't seem to understand is that
the US is not, and never was, a Christian nation.
The words of George Washington should clear it up
for her. In 1797, he said:

"The Government of the United States is not, in any
sense, founded on the Christian religion."

[PersimmonNJ]

Word. We are not a theocracy.

*sigh* miss those Founding Fathers' sensibilities in this day and age.