Source Of "Infanticide" Smear Says America Elected "A Barbarian"

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First Posted: 11- 6-08 10:35 AM   |   Updated: 12- 7-08 05:12 AM

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Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash of abortions of "born alive" babies at a Chicago hospital snowballed into the election-season charge that Obama supported "infanticide," wrote Thursday:

"Barack Obama was elected president despite the fact he supports abortion into the fourth trimester. [Ed. Note: Stanek uses "fourth trimester" deliberately to indicate abortions of children who are nevertheless "born alive."] Either the 63 million people voting for him didn't know about his radical record, which includes abandoning abortion survivors to die, didn't care, or didn't believe it."

Because several "anti-life" ballot initiatives also passed on Tuesday, Stanek said to her World Net Daily audience that "we are fooling ourselves if we think the United States is still a Christian nation," adding: "Its people just elected a barbarian as president."

The notion, pushed hard by Stanek and others, that Obama favored infanticide because he once voted "present" on a number of Illinois state senate bills was one that the Obama campaign pushed back against during the campaign. Obama's "Fight the Smears" website (apparently now offline) said the president-elect had voted against a bill containing language designed to protect infants who were 'born alive,' because such protections were already part of Illinois state law, and because the Stanek-supported bill was, at the time, opposed by the Illinois Medical Society.

Rick Winkel, the Illinois Republican who introduced the bill in the state Senate, even wrote in September that "none of those who voted against SB-1082 favored infanticide," despite his disagreement with them.

Nevertheless, Stanek is not giving up the ghost, calling on churches across America to take up a more explicit fight in the public policy arena of abortion. "It is your responsibility, pastor and church leaders, to teach your people that abortion is abominable, and before that to teach chaste living," she wrote. "And before that, at the risk of making my Protestant friends flip, to teach that the contraceptive/sterilization mentality, which considers children bad, not blessings, is also a component of the sexual demise of our country."

Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash ...
Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash ...
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85% of americans might believe in A god but not necessarily in the christian bible. Also believing in god doesn't mean you are necessarily religious in the theological sense, just spiritual.

I believe abortion is very unfortunate, yet like Obama i am a rational adult and understand that no matter how much we try to legislate against it, it is still going to happen.

Honestly the best we can do is educate people about how to avoid unwanted pregnancy, provide contraception and affordable health care through organizations like planned parenthood and safe facilities and services should abortion be deemed the only option for someone.

Burying your head in the sand and pleading to your imaginary friend in the sky will not make this problem go away, but trying to ban it or ignore it will most certainly make it far worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 11/06/2008
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Even if you are religious in the theological sense, not everyone believes that their religions forces them to impose their beliefs on others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 11/06/2008

Oh really? Well those people are a very tiny minority. VERY TINY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 11/06/2008

Excellent post!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 11/06/2008

Hear! Hear!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 11/06/2008
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Whooeee! Nobody can monger hate like a Christian hate-monger. Go Jill!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 11/06/2008
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As I don't recall abortion being in the Amendments or Bill of Rights of the US Constitution, and as I think women have a right to do as they will with their bodies, and since Roe Vs. Wade was ratified as Law by the Supreme Court like 30 years ago....I fail to see the nexus between Obama voting 'present' on a half-ass bill in the State Senate, and him being a "Barbarian". I would think that the person who thinks that smearing an up and coming politician, accusing him of a felony ( "Infanticide" ), and feeding said nonsense into networks so obviously " (UN)Fair and (IM)Balanced" IS THE REAL BARBARIAN. Americans who want change do precisely what Barack Obama, Caroline McCarthy, Rep. John Lewis, and hundreds of other real Americans do....they run for office. They organize grassroots informational campaigns. They make themselves, and by proxy, their issues, relevant to the masses. They DO NOT call the President of the United States a "Barbarian". It didn't work for McCain, Liz Dole, or the GOP...what possible reason would you have to think it would work for you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 11/06/2008

Send her back to the 1950s where she came from. Asking grown adults to ignore their hormonal urges and abstain from sexual conduct is just not realistic - and denies them one of lives great pleasures.
I can't wait to have kids and I will love and cherish them. But the contraceptive pill has given me the freedom to pursue a career and have the same opportunities as a man. This was unthinkable a generation ago. I have never had an abortion and at 30 I wouldn't but I know people who have found themselves in difficult situations at a young age and had early abortions. They've since had children and are wonderful parents. Their abortions were difficult decisions made under extreme stress with an extreme sense of regret and guilt. No one is pro-abortion, I wish people could get that into their heads. Obama voted present because of other extreme measures that were put into that bill, not because he is in favor of late-term abortions. No-one can doubt he is a family man. But he realizes that the emancipation (the freeing from domestic slavery) of women was a good thing and has strengthened society not weakened it. There is still a way to go but women are no longer second class citizens in a world owned by men. I couldn't vote for someone that would reduce my rights as a woman and who would tell me what I can and can't do with my own body.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 11/06/2008
- strength I'm a Fan of strength 5 fans permalink

go back to your hole in which you crawled out of you F...face

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 11/06/2008

Take your fundamental Christian mullah filth and get out of this country if you think it is so 'horrible'. Go somewhere else and live. Your divisive, ugly hatred doesn't belong here, anymore. The problem with you Republicans is you just do not get it. We're sick and tired of the nasty, hateful self-interest that drives you to push your divided America on everyone else. Want to know why you lost? Because you DESERVED to lose. Go away. Git!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 11/06/2008
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It stinks to be marginalized as Jill Stanek has been - it's twice as bad when you're clinically insane.

As she is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 11/06/2008
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lol fail.

you're 2 days too late and a few fruit loops short of a full bowl, lady. Not to metion your facts are a series of non-sequiters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 11/06/2008

It's not a Christian nation, it's just a Nation. Religion is an individual and private choice. Keep it out of our government and laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 11/06/2008

I'm glad to see America move toward secularism! It's about d@mn time!! We are smarter than that and don't need a book of magical fairy tales to decide our morality!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 11/06/2008
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Every country is the world uses religion in some form or fashion in their government­...otherwi­se, you believe in nothing larger than yourself..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 11/06/2008

So because everybody else does something we should do it too? If you want to believe in something bigger than yourself then crack open a science book or a physics book instead of your book about a space good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 11/06/2008

I wonder when these wing-nuts are going to get through their thick heads the simple fact that the United States is NOT...I repeat NOT, NOT, NOT a "Christian country", it is a nation whose very foundation was set upon the idea that everyone should be able to choose whatever religion, or NONE, they wished to follow and be guaranteed the right to pursue that religion or abstain from same, free of interference or persecution from ANYONE! We may have more who consider themselves Christians than any other group, but that does not give those "Christians" the right to browbeat anyone about a choice that differs from Christianity.
There is a bumper sticker that surfaces rather regularly, quoting Ghandi saying "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
Christian fanatics are as bad as Islamic fanatics. One needs only to listen to the lyrics of "Run, Run, Rudolph", a song that celebrates and encourages the actions of Eric Rudolph, a murderer and maimer in the name of "Right-to-Life" fanatics. Christ would roll over in his grave at the idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 11/06/2008

Scary-crazy, yeesh. Yeah, this is not a message, thank goodness, that appeals to very many people, pro-life or pro-choice. Um, sex is a natural part of life, why does it scare people so much? Get a passport and take a few trips to parts of the world where access to birth control is nonexistent - it's not dislike of children that makes birth control necessary. It's love for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 11/06/2008
- Oonagh I'm a Fan of Oonagh 30 fans permalink

Desperation is ugly.... they are still trying to make up stories... they cannot accept the fact that we are going to have a smart, intelligent man in the White House soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 11/06/2008
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Get ready for the smears whether a person wins or loses... is that right? Is this the point of this message?

A person can support abortion and not be made to feel guilty about not being able to save all the lives involved in the cause. That isn't abandonment. There are personals reason like surviving in this day and age that might have been more personal or more important at the time for our next commander in chief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 11/06/2008
- DemoMom I'm a Fan of DemoMom 12 fans permalink

Why give this woman the time of day and the publicity she craves? The woman is a religious nut and is best ignored.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 11/06/2008

Religious nut... do they come any other way?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 11/06/2008
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I volunteer at an organization that tries to offer young women alternative options to abortion. They offer free preganancy tests, ultra sound and counselling. They also extend help to women who elect not to abort in the form of parenting classes, maternity and newborn clothing and work with local adoption agencies for referrals. If a woman does choose abortion they have post-abortion counselling. Obama has said he would continue funding for organizations like this but I never heard anything from McCain that there would be any support for social programs. Only a freeze in spending except for his pet projects.
Obama is protective of women's rights, but is also aware that many women would make a different decision if they knew they had other options. He wants to reduce the number of abortions by teaching sex education other than abstinance only. A better educated youth will go a long way to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 11/06/2008
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