Source Of "Infanticide" Smear Says America Elected "A Barbarian"

Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash of abortions of "born alive" babies at a Chicago hospital snowballed into the election-season charge that Obama supported "infanticide," wrote Thursday:

"Barack Obama was elected president despite the fact he supports abortion into the fourth trimester. [Ed. Note: Stanek uses "fourth trimester" deliberately to indicate abortions of children who are nevertheless "born alive."] Either the 63 million people voting for him didn't know about his radical record, which includes abandoning abortion survivors to die, didn't care, or didn't believe it."

Because several "anti-life" ballot initiatives also passed on Tuesday, Stanek said to her World Net Daily audience that "we are fooling ourselves if we think the United States is still a Christian nation," adding: "Its people just elected a barbarian as president."

The notion, pushed hard by Stanek and others, that Obama favored infanticide because he once voted "present" on a number of Illinois state senate bills was one that the Obama campaign pushed back against during the campaign. Obama's "Fight the Smears" website (apparently now offline) said the president-elect had voted against a bill containing language designed to protect infants who were 'born alive,' because such protections were already part of Illinois state law, and because the Stanek-supported bill was, at the time, opposed by the Illinois Medical Society.

Rick Winkel, the Illinois Republican who introduced the bill in the state Senate, even wrote in September that "none of those who voted against SB-1082 favored infanticide," despite his disagreement with them.

Nevertheless, Stanek is not giving up the ghost, calling on churches across America to take up a more explicit fight in the public policy arena of abortion. "It is your responsibility, pastor and church leaders, to teach your people that abortion is abominable, and before that to teach chaste living," she wrote. "And before that, at the risk of making my Protestant friends flip, to teach that the contraceptive/sterilization mentality, which considers children bad, not blessings, is also a component of the sexual demise of our country."

Comments

[Birdman]

This womna has baked brains it is NOT the responsibility of any church to set policy, that is the very reason this country was created to get away from oppressive religious zealots that want to control the rights of others. If se is unhap[py with thsi policy maybes she ough tto go to a country that has laws agaisnt it .. Oh wait errrr I guess that there aren't any, surely that must tell you something.

[KeepMeLearning]

When the h ell did the U.S. become a "Christian nation???" What about all the rest of us Americans who are NOT Christian??? I thought the separation of church and state was guaranteed by the Constitution???

I wish these w ing nuts would stop bringing religion into politics--it's personal and it doesn't belong there!!!!

[politicalpinball]

This type of attacks is responsible for the destruction of the Republican Party - The one issue religious zealot, who only cares about one policy that the president has little effect on - Abortion. The kicker is that the religious fundamentalist right never presents solutions for improving the problem of abortion, while labeling the left as being "pro-abortion". Nobody is pro-abortion, rather some people feel that criminalizing women for abortion is not a solution (to say it lightly).

[roald]

Spot on. Thanks.

[gisellestwocents]

Sticks and stones. Any true christian knows that God is in control and doesn't waste time calling people vile names which disrespect the teachings of Christ who instructed his followers to spread the GOOD NEWS--not legislate what they believe to be godly conduct!!!

Doctors are sworn to do no harm. They are the professionally trained and licensed individuals in the operating rooms and sworn to ethically do their jobs. I trust them to do that and, therefore, am totally unconcerned with the hysterical assertions of some nurse.

Additionally,

President-elect Obama hasn't had one abortion. NOT ONE!!! I promise you that.

Furthermore, no Democrat has forced any woman to have an abortion or any doctor to provide one--whatever the trimester.

Anti-choice people need to better focus their energies toward providing viable options and working on a more postive tone if they expect to influence women facing difficult issues and CHOICES.

[sylar]

Religion will ruin America.

[peggyleg]

Yea, sure it will...Do you have ANY idea how religion formed American and why there is even an America today?? People came here from England to be able to worship they way they wanted to, and the Church of England was the reason they left...they wanted freedom of religion, to be able to be all different denominations, not just what the church of England mandated (Catholic)...PLEASE, at least know 5th grade history before making such s t u p i d remarks!!!

[Clavis]

The fact that religious nuts came to America to practice their religious nuttery, and the fact that religion is nutty, are not mutually exclusive.

[Soundofthunder]

Is that why America has no state-mandated religion, because it was founded on religion? Is that why we separate church and state, because America depends on religion?

Stop confusing the puritans and pilgrims who colonized the New World for the men who wrote the founding documents. One is incidental to the other. Might as well credit evolution as being responsible for America or the Big Bang.

SOT

[NHGranite]

S'cuse me, but I live in NH and there were plenty of European people here before those religious people got here. They started fishing off the Grand Banks in about 1500. There were already people here to greet them - not Christians, I would wager. Ding Ding Ding - wrong history book~!

[Jeff1958]

Please explain how Jews, Moslems, Hindus, etc. fit in with your concept of 'government.'

[RationalDubSteppa]

Wait! your accusing us of making st upi d remarks when your the one that believes in the burning bush and the space god in the sky that is going to make you magically dissappear before the space god comes back and burns us all?? And we're the st upi d ones???

[oxford]

Read "God Is Not Great" How Religion Poisons Everything, by Chris Hitchins. Learn the history.

Is it any wonder why most nations in the world hate us??

[Agentlady007]

No they don't.

[RationalDubSteppa]

Most nations don't hate us. But "God is Not Great" is an amazing book!

[recasper]

In the world, throughout history, More blood has been spilled in its name than any other issue... Our country will be no exception, hopefully that day will never come, but if it does, religion will be a prime proponent to the cause. Unfortunately so.

Religious zealots like this will be on the front line demanding the fall of the nation.

Another example....... Westboro Baptist Church.

[Raica]

Stanek said to her World Net Daily audience that "we are fooling ourselves if we think the United States is still a Christian nation,"

Good! Yes, this country may have been founded on christian ideals, but those ideals trancend dogma. Most religions have a base of morality and consequences; this was never meant to be a 'christian nation'- I guess she never read the FIRST amendment.

If we ever do become a christian nation, I will then no longer be an American.

[JHCowboy]

Thank God we are not a Christian nation anymore than we are a Muslim or Jewish Nation. The real answer is that we are all of the above. We are all religions and some of us are non-religious. Some of us are spiritual but not religious too. It is awesome how diverse we are and it is our diversity that is our strength.

[Trucker777]

We're never going to be rid of these pro-life, conservative malcontents until we learn to control our sciences to an even higher degree. Then we will just board our space ships and leave them behind to continue destroying the Earth with their poisons, both verbal and chemical.

[peggyleg]

Sounds good to me, when do y'all leave?? I'll drive you to your "space ship" if you promise to get on and not come back!!!

[DarkandStormyNight]

Yes, and may our karma eat her dogma.

[bonnetteblj]

Senator Obama did not vote for the resolution about born alive babies in Illinois due to the fact
that there was already a federal law in place. Since that time, partial birth abortions have been
banned and are now illegal. Therefore, Ms. Staneks stance on President-elect Obama is absurd.
He does not support abortion in the fourth trimester. Ms. Stanek needs to quit spreading lies
about our President-elect and deal with the fact that Obama has been elected. She continues
to stir up dissent in this country with her bogus claims.

[Bitsko]

Couldn't we use an acre or two of Alaska to put away inanities like Jill Stanek?

[SteveDenver]

"Fourth trimester" isn't that like the fifth quarter?

[Feeling Energy]

What amazes me about religious conservatives is that they want people who are not equipped to be parents to bring a child into the world; meanwhile, they don't want the government to give the parents any help, such as welfare, childcare, healthcare, etc, etc

A woman's choice should be hers..if she believes in God, then her choice should be between her and her creator. Everyone else should stay out of it. Furthermore, why do women alone get the brunt of this argument? They don't get pregnant on their own.

Abortion has been around for years; it is even in the Bible. Do some research, Jill.

Why any woman would not want to retain the rights to her own body is beyond me; perhaps women like that don't trust themselves enough to take responsibility for their own decisions. Instead, they want the government to mandate what is and what is not appropriate behavior.

[T Pol]

She's a FORMER nurse. I'm glad she is out of the profession if she regards contraception as she does. Otherwise, we'd go back to the days when MARRIED women would get pregnant 16 times and die on number 17.

Talk about extremist. I love how these extremist so-called "pro-lifers" who oppose EVERYTHING about sex, contraception, education etc. are so for the rights of the unborn...until they are born FEMALE. Then they lose their rights. And many are so quick to send our 18-year-old babies off to die in war.

[peggyleg]

She isn't against contraception, she's against late-term abortion, and then not rendering aid to the children that are born alive ANYWAY due to the botched abortion...

[Clavis]

You didn't read to the end. It says: "It is your responsibility, pastor and church leaders, to teach your people that abortion is abominable, and before that to teach chaste living," she wrote. "And before that, at the risk of making my Protestant friends flip, to teach that the contraceptive/sterilization mentality, which considers children bad, not blessings, is also a component of the sexual demise of our country."

People who think abortion is murder, but are also anti-birth-control, are evil psychopaths who care more about their imaginary fairy-tale friends than about real people and real suffering and real human rights.

[dumblondest]

so are you telling me that she witnessed a baby born alive after a botched abortion and then just stood there and watched it die??? being a nurse she could have done something i would think...even if it were to go find a doctor to help the infant.

[R1Rider]

Why are we even achknowledging this angry, bitter woman? What a waste of time.

[BidensBabes]

Can anyone tell me when we became a Christian nation? Was there some official mandate, decree, legislation or law enacted that I missed? NO ONE has the right to preach to me what I believe about religion, abortion, christianity or anything else for that matter. This woman's narrowminded view is just that albeit sorely misguided and self serving. Wikpedia: The early user of the term was James Madison, the principal drafter of the United States Bill of Rights, who often wrote of "total separation of the church from the state." "Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States," Madison wrote,and he declared, "practical distinction between Religion and Civil Government is essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. Another simple minded embarassing caricature of a woman that doesn't know her own Constitution. I am now and always have been pro-choice.

[peggyleg]

Every country IN THE WORLD uses religion to help guide their laws, constitution and practices...do not be so ridiculous to say that America is NOT a religious country just because no certain religion was named in the constituion...it is in the consttution that we rely on our "maker" and all of our federal buildings and money have on them "In God we Trust:...so do NOT try to re-write history, it won't work..

[KeepMeLearning]

YOU ARE WRONG--DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND READ THE CONSTITUTION!!!

[RenoSage]

I heard the new dollar coin does not have "in God we trust" on it. Some talk of a
boycott of the coin.

[Jeff1958]

FYI - Congress added the phrase "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance in the 1950's. But it doesn't say which God. For all you know it could be Allah (which is the Arabic translation for God).

[ElizabethMadrigal]

This hate-monger has the ovaries to call Obama a barbarian? Is that code for all those scare words these barbaric literal bible-thumpers love to throw around with psalm and verse? If so, I would almost like to return to the days (Bible-sanctioned) when her father could sell her into slavery. It would suit her.

[peggyleg]

No. look up the definition of "Barbarian", it has NOTHING to do with christian values at all, ....I think you are acting a little too self-rightous and we all know that leads to christian-bashing...

[RationalDubSteppa]

Uh.... boo hoo so now your the victim? Remember your the one that choose to believe in the gospel of Gandalf or whatever fairy tale that drives your inane logic.

[thefringecenter]

I offer a trade to the churchies out there. I will trade Roe v Wade for the repeal of your tax exempt staus. No takers? I didn't think so.