Monks Brawl At Christian Holy Site In Jerusalem

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MATTI FRIEDMAN | November 9, 2008 12:06 PM EST | AP

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Israeli police scuffle with an Armenian monk next to the site traditionally believed to be the tomb of Jesus Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in the Old City of Jerusalem, Sunday, Nov. 9, 2008. A brawl erupted between rival monks at one of Christianity's holiest sites, and Israeli police detained two clergymen for questioning. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)

JERUSALEM — Israeli police rushed into one of Christianity's holiest churches Sunday and arrested two clergyman after an argument between monks erupted into a brawl next to the site of Jesus' tomb.

The clash between Armenian and Greek Orthodox monks broke out in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, revered as the site of Jesus' crucifixion, burial and resurrection.

The brawling began during a procession of Armenian clergymen commemorating the 4th-century discovery of the cross believed to have been used to crucify Jesus.

The Greeks objected to the march without one of their monks present, fearing that otherwise, the procession would subvert their own claim to the Edicule _ the ancient structure built on what is believed to be the tomb of Jesus _ and give the Armenians a claim to the site.

The Armenians refused, and when they tried to march the Greek Orthodox monks blocked their way, sparking the brawl.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said police were forced to intervene after fighting was reported. They arrested two monks, one from each side, he said.

A bearded Armenian monk in a red-and-pink robe and a black-clad Greek Orthodox monk with a bloody gash on his forehead were both taken away in handcuffs after scuffling with dozens of riot police.

Six Christian sects divide control of the ancient church. They regularly fight over turf and influence, and Israeli police are occasionally forced to intervene.

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"We were keeping resistance so that the procession could not pass through ... and establish a right that they don't have," said a young Greek Orthodox monk with a cut next to his left eye.

The monk, who gave his name as Serafim, said he sustained the wound when an Armenian punched him from behind and broke his glasses.

Father Pakrat of the Armenian Patriarchate said the Greek demand was "against the status quo arrangement and against the internal arrangement of the Holy Sepulcher." He said the Greeks attacked first.

Archbishop Aristarchos, the chief secretary of the Greek Orthodox patriarchate, denied his monks initiated the violence.

After the brawl, the church was crowded with Israeli riot police holding assault rifles, standing beside Golgotha, where Jesus is believed to have been crucified, and the long smooth stone marking the place where tradition holds his body was laid out.

The feud is only one of a bewildering array of rivalries among churchmen in the Holy Sepulcher.

The Israeli government has long wanted to build a fire exit in the church, which regularly fills with thousands of pilgrims and has only one main door, but the sects cannot agree where the exit will be built.

A ladder placed on a ledge over the entrance sometime in the 19th century has remained there ever since because of a dispute over who has the authority to take it down.

More recently, a spat between Ethiopian and Coptic Christians is delaying badly needed renovations to a rooftop monastery that engineers say could collapse.

JERUSALEM — Israeli police rushed into one of Christianity's holiest churches Sunday and arrested two clergyman after an argument between monks erupted into a brawl next to the site of Jesus' to...
JERUSALEM — Israeli police rushed into one of Christianity's holiest churches Sunday and arrested two clergyman after an argument between monks erupted into a brawl next to the site of Jesus' to...
 
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- octo I'm a Fan of octo permalink

The Pompous fighting over the ridiculous........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 11/10/2008
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WWJD?

Rolling my eyes at this one...talk about Christian behavior..What role models for their 'flocks'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 11/09/2008

Where would Jesus land a punch?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 11/09/2008
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A futuristic look at the Unites States of America as soon as the wall between church and state is eroded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 11/09/2008
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The irony over a two hundred year chore of taking a simple ladder down (authority, one needs authority?) bespeaks the lack of ascension past intolerance on all six sides. Tell you what. Everyone help get the ladder down at the same time, with equal time in helping, and then everyone can go home happy, only, hopefully, to realize how quickly Jesus might abandon those far too eager to provide yet another infantile example of the small minded digression of childish mob mentality in his good name. Obviously Jesus' good name is not at issue, heaven forbid, but must his claimed followers continue to push that name religiously, further into disrepute? I think he would separate himself from such backwards idolatry completely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 11/09/2008
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As always the ethics law is without teeth.

:-/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 11/09/2008

Armenians and Greeks should be fighting Turks, not each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 11/09/2008
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I guess they think they walk with God and can do no wrong... very sad indeed.

:-(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 11/09/2008

Amen to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 11/10/2008

the funniest part of this whole is that the church has been under the control of a muslims caretakership for the last 800 years. since no christian could trust each other they gave to the hands of muslims, and we just look at it mroe of an oddity than anything else. hell, even if shiite muslims are allowed to do hajj in mecca, christian truely are insane for power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 11/09/2008

We get in fist fights every once in a while, you guys blow each other up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 11/10/2008

Having an ethnic origin of one of the sects controlling this church I can only roll my eyes and hope they can learn to get along. After all they are all christians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 11/09/2008

These guys need to laid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 11/09/2008
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How Christ like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 11/09/2008

There is nothing Holy about the Holy Land, They should level the whole stinking place and build condos.Religon makes good people do bad things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 11/09/2008
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Monks...You can't take them anywhere!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 11/09/2008

Who says that these people are Christians? There is neither spirituality to their thinking nor to their actions. If you want to find spirituality you should visit the Sermon on the Mount. There, Christ confronts humanity with the Spirit of God. There is nothing else to add. Christianity is summarized in loving God and neighbor. The rest is nonsense.
For those who want to call themselves Christians, you should love God and neighbor. Those who are cynics, don't be afraid, be brave, read Christ words in the Sermon on the Mount.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 11/09/2008
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But you also have to understand the context of human history in the Holy Land. The repercussions of Ottoman Law as well as other things. The History of Eastern Christianity.... The fact that this article is written in an historical vacuum and "progressive" people are so willing to read it that way does not help anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 11/09/2008
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love thy neighbor

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 11/09/2008

Control is always an icy road

have a friend who preached for 45 yrs

his conclusion

the more religious they are, the more dangerous they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 11/09/2008

2 true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 11/09/2008
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