Obama Meets Bush: What To Expect

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First Posted: 11- 9-08 07:10 PM   |   Updated: 12-10-08 05:12 AM

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In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House.

In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own personal tour of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue from the Bushes, the newly-elected 44th president will discuss the details of the transition with Bush.

Per the New York Times:

In a time-honored tradition of American democracy, Mr. Obama and his wife, Michelle, will receive a tour of their new home from Mr. Bush and the first lady, Laura Bush. Then the men will split off to begin the formal transfer of power, all the more urgent this year because of the financial crisis. Mr. Obama has said he expects a "substantive conversation between myself and the president."

Though the meeting has plenty of potential for tense moments - Obama spent hours on the campaign trail denouncing Bush's "failed policies" and Bush once praised Obama's primary rival, Hillary Clinton, as "more ready to be president" - Bush is said to have newfound respect for Obama's campaigning skills and appreciates the potential to gain some goodwill by being a gracious host, reports the Times:

"President Bush is a realist," said this friend, who spoke anonymously to disclose his private conversation with the president. "He has a way of coming to grips with things and moving on. The people have spoken."


For Mr. Bush, the meeting has a distinct upside: the chance to take the edge off his unpopularity. Democrats are already praising him as gracious for his post-election speech in the Rose Garden, where he said it would be a "stirring sight" to see the Obama family move into the White House. The meeting on Monday will give Mr. Bush an opportunity to produce lasting images of that graciousness.

Already, Obama seems to have usurped Bush when it comes to commanding authority on the important issues of the day, according to the Christian Science Monitor:

Barack Obama speaks, and the world listens - more intently, at this point, than it does to the actual president of the United States. President-elect Obama can inspire and alarm, calm markets or add to jitters. And with the nation in economic crisis, he seems keenly aware of that...


But he is avoiding doing anything now, either as a sitting senator or as president-elect, that would give him ownership of decisions made between now and Inauguration Day. Obama will not attend the G-20 meeting on Nov. 15, a summit of world leaders to be convened in Washington for crisis economic talks...

Still, Obama already enjoys an important tool of the presidency: the bully pulpit. For now, "that's the one power he has, to inspire and reassure," says Paul Light, an expert on presidential transitions at New York University.

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When the men first met back in 2006 over breakfast at the White House, things didn't go so well.

Obama recounted the meeting in his book, "Audacity of Hope," recalling Bush's use of hand sanitizer, odd sense of humor and attempt at advice.

Bush wasn't happy with Obama's description of the meeting, expressing his irritation to Bill Sammon, Fox News' Washington Deputy Managing Editor:

The two men shook hands and then, according to Obama, Bush turned to an aide, "who squirted a big dollop of hand sanitizer in the president's hand."


Bush then offered some to Obama, who recalled: "Not wanting to seem unhygienic, I took a squirt."

The president then led Obama off to one side of the room, where Bush said: "I hope you don't mind me giving you a piece of advice."...

"You've got a bright future," Bush said presciently. "Very bright. But I've been in this town awhile and, let me tell you, it can be tough. When you get a lot of attention like you've been getting, people start gunnin' for ya. And it won't necessarily just be coming from my side, you understand. From yours, too. Everybody'll be waiting for you to slip, know what I mean? So watch yourself."...

Obama laughed and even "put my arm around his shoulder as we talked," he recalled, although he added the gesture "might have made many of my friends, not to mention the Secret Service agents in the room, more than a little uneasy."

Despite this display of bonhomie, Obama said the president's demeanor turned downright frightening when he laid out his agenda to the freshly minted lawmakers.

"Suddenly it felt as if somebody in a back room had flipped a switch," Obama wrote. "The president's eyes became fixed; his voice took on the agitated, rapid tone of someone neither accustomed to nor welcoming interruption; his easy affability was replaced by an almost messianic certainty. As I watched my mostly Republican Senate colleagues hang on his every word, I was reminded of the dangerous isolation that power can bring, and appreciated the Founders' wisdom in designating a system to keep power in check."

When I quoted from this passage to Bush during an Oval Office interview, the president seemed irritated to learn he had been taken to task by the senator he once counseled.

I thought I was actually showing some kindness," Bush said indignantly. "And out of that he came with this belief?"

The president added with a bit of a scowl: "He doesn't know me very well."

In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House. In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own perso...
In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House. In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own perso...
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- ruberube I'm a Fan of ruberube 2 fans permalink

President Bush is a realist," said this friend, what a joke. the problem is his reality is based on self righteous fascist mongering un-intellectual neoconservatism!
I strongly suggest everyone get aboard the impeach Bush express now!
There are sites you can go to demand a federal investigation into Bush and his presidency!

Do it- youl feel good about it!
Time to be active!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 11/10/2008
- amessenger I'm a Fan of amessenger 6 fans permalink

Both of these men are players in the government arena. Neither has a thin skin. It would be time wasted to bring direct accounting for the President's Failed Policies and I expect Barack to be cool and calm, but you cannot help but think he'll be observing Bush, wondering: "Sooo, George,....what do you think of me now?" Payback will be a bitch" --- hopefully, for no-one deserves it more. Where's Cheney by the way?
The president shakes hands with a great group of people on a daily basis, although his Jack Nicholson (As Good As It Gets) Germaphobia could be attended to somewhat more discreetly, what do you expect, he IS from Texas and wants us all so badly to forget his Eastee Prep-School origin replacing it with a genuine (sort of) Cowboy persona, albeit, not so gracious.
Barack is such a decent man and has so much brain power that he will graciously interact with "Mr. Low Appeal" in a reconnaissance mission.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 11/10/2008
- WowJones I'm a Fan of WowJones 79 fans permalink
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Finally the end of the worst two-term Presidency since Ullysses S. Grant, who ended up penniless. One could only hope for the same fate for Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 11/10/2008
- Ssebo I'm a Fan of Ssebo 3 fans permalink

The body language of Bush was not hopeful. The shot showing the 2 men walking together showed Obama talking to Bush. Bush never even gestured, turned his head, anything, to show that he heard the man next to him.

A classic case of alpha male behaviour.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 11/10/2008
- kimk3 I'm a Fan of kimk3 48 fans permalink
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The president added with a bit of a scowl: "He doesn't know me very well."

I think Mr. Not-President, you don't know yourself very well. I'm sure you don't think you're a lying, stupid jerk... but the rest of the world does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 11/10/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

It's the Bugs Bunny line: "He don't know me vewy well, do he?"

This usually ends up with the one gunning for Bugs running into his comeuppance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 11/10/2008
- CARTERJ I'm a Fan of CARTERJ 5 fans permalink

You beat me to that one, SailFree. Bravo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 11/10/2008

Certainly, President Bush and President-elect Obama will talk about the future, and hopefully, touch upon our environmental challenges, which, as e-waste expert and author Elizabeth Grossman says, are "made even more challenging by last minute Bush Administration actions”:

http://blog.islandpress.org/231/elizabeth-grossman-last-minute-bush-administration-actions

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 11/10/2008

Evict the squatters

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 11/10/2008
- Dichotomy I'm a Fan of Dichotomy 8 fans permalink

lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 11/10/2008
- Sassys I'm a Fan of Sassys 5 fans permalink
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I wish I had been hidden somewhere to witness that meeting! Bush was so bloody condescending! I wonder if Bush has an issue with hand sanitizer? Or does he only sanitize when shaking hands with anyone who is not white? I bet "some of his best friends are black" Condaleeza Rice was about the whitest person in his cabinet ...sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 11/10/2008
- RadGash I'm a Fan of RadGash 8 fans permalink

Watch your back brother... you are walking into a den of wolves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 11/10/2008
- filo I'm a Fan of filo 65 fans permalink
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Two months and twelve days until Dubaya is out of the White House.

It will be the end of an error.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 11/10/2008
- KO4Pres I'm a Fan of KO4Pres 142 fans permalink
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71 days to be exact, but who's counting? :)

ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 11/10/2008
- Mulvaney I'm a Fan of Mulvaney 6 fans permalink

While there are more important things to think about, the meeting between Michelle Obama and Laura Bush is interesting in light of the Globe's tabloid headline that I read at the supermarket line, "Obama's Ruthless Wife Trashes Laura." That kind of stood out.

I did not pick up the magazine to read anything other than the headlines, and suspect that it was written by the same people who believe that Obama is a radical socialist muslim terrorist. In reality, both have spoken favorably about each other and Laura defended Michelle after the comments about her being proud of America for the first time were circulated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 11/10/2008
- JayKlein I'm a Fan of JayKlein 4 fans permalink

"The president added with a bit of a scowl: "He doesn't know me very well.""

Obama knows you enough to know that he does not want to know you.

Lil Georgie go back to Texas and pray to Gawd everyday that you and Cheney will not go to trial for war crimes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 11/10/2008
- Evisionary I'm a Fan of Evisionary 2 fans permalink
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LOL I wish there was enough time to prosecute them for their war crimes. Sanitizer won't help you're legacy Dubya!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 11/10/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

Don't you hope Obama is treated with more courtesy an ddecency than you hae treated George W?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 11/10/2008
- Nagarjuna I'm a Fan of Nagarjuna 40 fans permalink
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George W belongs in a dock at the Hague.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 11/10/2008
- amessenger I'm a Fan of amessenger 6 fans permalink

Though he has no real understanding about graciousness, I'm sure that George will get far more than he deserves,....for now.
"The Buss Be Comin!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 11/10/2008

"President Bush is a realist," said this friend, who spoke anonymously to disclose his private conversation with the president. "He has a way of coming to grips with things and moving on."

What planet is this guy from ... I have seen no evidence Bush deals in any world but the one he imagines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 11/10/2008
- jazzblues I'm a Fan of jazzblues 6 fans permalink

Absolutely agree

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 11/10/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

It is impossible for a delusional person to evaluate a normal person accurately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 11/10/2008

posted by SailFree "McCain Camp Buses In School Kids To Fill Crowd"

"A few weeks ago I predicted the "undecided" would break for McCain, and it appears that is so. I also predicted just a day or two ago that if McCain was within 2-3 points of Obama, he would win, as the polls always slant toward Democrats"

Occasionally just ocassionally one is able to hold a clock up to someones projections of reality to see if they are as smart as they think they are ... what now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 11/10/2008
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THE HEALING OF A NATION: An Exploration of the Spiritual, Metaphysical, Social, and Karma Lessons from the 2008 US Presidential Elections

http://www.spiritualcommentary.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 11/10/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

Isn't this just a bit premature?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 11/10/2008
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