Obama Meets Bush: What To Expect

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First Posted: 11- 9-08 07:10 PM   |   Updated: 12-10-08 05:12 AM

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In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House.

In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own personal tour of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue from the Bushes, the newly-elected 44th president will discuss the details of the transition with Bush.

Per the New York Times:

In a time-honored tradition of American democracy, Mr. Obama and his wife, Michelle, will receive a tour of their new home from Mr. Bush and the first lady, Laura Bush. Then the men will split off to begin the formal transfer of power, all the more urgent this year because of the financial crisis. Mr. Obama has said he expects a "substantive conversation between myself and the president."

Though the meeting has plenty of potential for tense moments - Obama spent hours on the campaign trail denouncing Bush's "failed policies" and Bush once praised Obama's primary rival, Hillary Clinton, as "more ready to be president" - Bush is said to have newfound respect for Obama's campaigning skills and appreciates the potential to gain some goodwill by being a gracious host, reports the Times:

"President Bush is a realist," said this friend, who spoke anonymously to disclose his private conversation with the president. "He has a way of coming to grips with things and moving on. The people have spoken."


For Mr. Bush, the meeting has a distinct upside: the chance to take the edge off his unpopularity. Democrats are already praising him as gracious for his post-election speech in the Rose Garden, where he said it would be a "stirring sight" to see the Obama family move into the White House. The meeting on Monday will give Mr. Bush an opportunity to produce lasting images of that graciousness.

Already, Obama seems to have usurped Bush when it comes to commanding authority on the important issues of the day, according to the Christian Science Monitor:

Barack Obama speaks, and the world listens - more intently, at this point, than it does to the actual president of the United States. President-elect Obama can inspire and alarm, calm markets or add to jitters. And with the nation in economic crisis, he seems keenly aware of that...


But he is avoiding doing anything now, either as a sitting senator or as president-elect, that would give him ownership of decisions made between now and Inauguration Day. Obama will not attend the G-20 meeting on Nov. 15, a summit of world leaders to be convened in Washington for crisis economic talks...

Still, Obama already enjoys an important tool of the presidency: the bully pulpit. For now, "that's the one power he has, to inspire and reassure," says Paul Light, an expert on presidential transitions at New York University.

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When the men first met back in 2006 over breakfast at the White House, things didn't go so well.

Obama recounted the meeting in his book, "Audacity of Hope," recalling Bush's use of hand sanitizer, odd sense of humor and attempt at advice.

Bush wasn't happy with Obama's description of the meeting, expressing his irritation to Bill Sammon, Fox News' Washington Deputy Managing Editor:

The two men shook hands and then, according to Obama, Bush turned to an aide, "who squirted a big dollop of hand sanitizer in the president's hand."


Bush then offered some to Obama, who recalled: "Not wanting to seem unhygienic, I took a squirt."

The president then led Obama off to one side of the room, where Bush said: "I hope you don't mind me giving you a piece of advice."...

"You've got a bright future," Bush said presciently. "Very bright. But I've been in this town awhile and, let me tell you, it can be tough. When you get a lot of attention like you've been getting, people start gunnin' for ya. And it won't necessarily just be coming from my side, you understand. From yours, too. Everybody'll be waiting for you to slip, know what I mean? So watch yourself."...

Obama laughed and even "put my arm around his shoulder as we talked," he recalled, although he added the gesture "might have made many of my friends, not to mention the Secret Service agents in the room, more than a little uneasy."

Despite this display of bonhomie, Obama said the president's demeanor turned downright frightening when he laid out his agenda to the freshly minted lawmakers.

"Suddenly it felt as if somebody in a back room had flipped a switch," Obama wrote. "The president's eyes became fixed; his voice took on the agitated, rapid tone of someone neither accustomed to nor welcoming interruption; his easy affability was replaced by an almost messianic certainty. As I watched my mostly Republican Senate colleagues hang on his every word, I was reminded of the dangerous isolation that power can bring, and appreciated the Founders' wisdom in designating a system to keep power in check."

When I quoted from this passage to Bush during an Oval Office interview, the president seemed irritated to learn he had been taken to task by the senator he once counseled.

I thought I was actually showing some kindness," Bush said indignantly. "And out of that he came with this belief?"

The president added with a bit of a scowl: "He doesn't know me very well."

In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House. In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own perso...
In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House. In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own perso...
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they really are sending us the 4th-string tro//s lately aren't they?

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 11/10/2008
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Paid h.acks will drive you ba.lmy
paid spi.es will take their toll
but there's nothing worse
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than a brand new baby tro//.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 11/10/2008
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excellent!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 11/10/2008
- Pegi I'm a Fan of Pegi 47 fans permalink

LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 11/10/2008
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Go Abby!...............I like it.............:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 11/10/2008
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Obama meets Bush: What to Expect

I'm fairly certain the President-Elect knows what to expect.

That renown, acerbic Bush 'wit', a coupla 'pull my finger' pranks and a lecture about how to approach nearly every issue from the incorrect angle.

Who knows? Bush may even break out the Whoopie cushion. Really make a party of it.

The minx.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 11/10/2008
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don't forget the dreaded back massage he tried out on the german prime minister......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 11/10/2008
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No doubt Bush also has a new demeaning nickname he's itching to try out on the president elect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 11/10/2008
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Maybe a "Yo, Barry" to boot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 11/10/2008

My first concern with the incoming administration is their intolerance for the opposing veiw point. Even before the election, Obama kicked those who advocated McCain off of his plane. Now we learn that Fox News is not allowed to ask questions at his press conference.

It's not surprising when the H.Post kicks off the disagreeable commenters, but I find it to be more than a little alarming when the P. Elect attempts to silence his critics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 11/10/2008
- ljmoffice I'm a Fan of ljmoffice 3 fans permalink

Scarborough.....LOL!! I heard that and I knew you guys would be all over it.Had to run in here and check it out. Hilarious!!! He's mortified....he didn't even realize he said it!! He is still apologizing!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 11/10/2008

I want to thank our President - Elect for selecting Rahm as his Chief of Staff.

The Rahm selection may cause Hoe to slap the h e l l out of Mika one morning in anger.

Although I am against domestic violence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 11/10/2008
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The best pick he made since his selection of Joe Biden. Rahm is a knee-caper which is what he needs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 11/10/2008
- Gotcha54 I'm a Fan of Gotcha54 12 fans permalink

If he gets under Joe's skin I'm all for the selection. I just hope he's invited on for some face to face time with Joe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 11/10/2008

Joe will be wearing his skirt that day. He is afraid of Axelrod too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 11/10/2008
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Did you see how he handled GeorgeS yesterday..............:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 11/10/2008

Joe is a bully towards women. He is a world class pu ssy when confronted face to face by a man. In fact he is a world class pu ssy when confronted face to face with a woman also. One need look no further than when he was debating Maddow on "Race to the WH" and he had a temper tantrum then stormed off the set.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 11/10/2008
- Colmore I'm a Fan of Colmore 46 fans permalink

What? "He has a way of coming to grips with things, and moving on" Georgie?? If this were true, he would never had invaded Iraq because Saddam "tried to kill my dad". There was also the little matter of OIL, I almost forgot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 11/10/2008
- dawlishgal I'm a Fan of dawlishgal 221 fans permalink
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Bush sounds a lot like MONK...but without the charm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 11/10/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 665 fans permalink
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or the brains, or the talent, or the looks, or the heart, or............just about anything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 11/10/2008
- hope I'm a Fan of hope 87 fans permalink

A monk?

Seldom (outside of L.A.), have I encountered anyone less likely to embrace self-denial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 11/10/2008

The following excellent article may be of interest:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27641380/

It describes the many exceptional qualities of the president-elect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 11/10/2008
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Thanks. This issue of the New Yorker has several good—and long—articles in it about Obama and the campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 11/10/2008
- CintiBlue I'm a Fan of CintiBlue 54 fans permalink

I was in the kitchen pouring coffee, thought I heard the F-bomb. It's so much part of my vocabulary, I thought it was all in my head but, no!!!

HAAAAAAA HAAAAAA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 11/10/2008

Morning Hoe is blaming his "fvck you" on Rahm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 11/10/2008
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3....2.....1

bbbbbbbuuuuttttttt clinton........

wwwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

such a slip of the tongue couldn't have happened to a better d o u c he b a g........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 11/10/2008

Or a bigger one ................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 11/10/2008
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He clearly has a problem, could it stem from his days in congress?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 11/10/2008

The m u r d e r? Perhaps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 11/10/2008
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but wait.......

joe might be surprised to find out that not all congressmen find the bodies of d e a d women in their offices......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 11/10/2008
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Lmao!!! I hope they fire him!! lol and mika to with her "Honey Honey Come to Mo m m y" they are so pathetic!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 11/10/2008
- hope I'm a Fan of hope 87 fans permalink

It should be Ok.

I understand it's the Cheneyapproved salutation to members of Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 11/10/2008
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It's unbelievable to me that they don't run a delay on the show. If so, they could've dumped out of it. Big fines probably coming..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 11/10/2008

The passing of the Giant Hot Potato with the use of the Sacred Tongs????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 11/10/2008

at arround 8:14am est Joe, from morning joe, dropped the F-Bomb live. the other hosts and guest reactions priceless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 11/10/2008
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OMG - Doucheborough just let the F-b0mb drop on morning teevee.

Heh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 11/10/2008
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LMAO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 11/10/2008

Yup. Yup. Rahm is driving Hoe cr@zy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 11/10/2008
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Karma!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 11/10/2008
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Darnit, I missed it...oh well, the Internet will have it up soon.

I hope he gets canned as a result.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 11/10/2008
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Now that's funny.

How big is that fine, FCC?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 11/10/2008
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At least a quarter million for the company, and he himself could be personally fined by the FCC too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 11/10/2008

Who is watching Morning Hoe?

He said the fvck you. Seriousy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 11/10/2008

To who?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 11/10/2008

He wasn't talking to anyone. He was saying that Rahm says that to people. He meant to say eff you.

Rahm is driving Hoe cr@zy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 11/10/2008
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In what context?.................:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 11/10/2008

He said unlike Rahm, Axelrod and Gibbs don't go around saying fvck you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 11/10/2008
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Jay Carney had told a story about Rahm calling him about some Time story saying F-You, F-You, F-You and that's the way Jay told the story - but apparently the conversation behind the scenes during the commercial Jay used the whole word.

I think Joe just goofed up in context - not holding separate the fact that he was on air. I get why it happened, but it was hilarious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 11/10/2008
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I have it on but i missed it watching the you tube with pat and lawrence o'donnell. WHAT HAPPENED????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 11/10/2008

He said that Axelrod and Gibbs don't go around saying fvck you.

He was speaking about Rahm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 11/10/2008
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Imagine having to watch Pat and Palin together. Both talking. In those voices...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 11/10/2008

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Stupidborough just used the big "F-word" ............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 11/10/2008
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Ha!! God does answer all prayers. ( I was just praying he would be off the air soon)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 11/10/2008

He is now blaming Rahm. He said it was a quote from Rahm.

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 11/10/2008
- Pegi I'm a Fan of Pegi 47 fans permalink

someone needs to say it to him and mika, seriously!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 11/10/2008
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