Obama Meets Bush: What To Expect

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First Posted: 11- 9-08 07:10 PM   |   Updated: 12-10-08 05:12 AM

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In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House.

In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own personal tour of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue from the Bushes, the newly-elected 44th president will discuss the details of the transition with Bush.

Per the New York Times:

In a time-honored tradition of American democracy, Mr. Obama and his wife, Michelle, will receive a tour of their new home from Mr. Bush and the first lady, Laura Bush. Then the men will split off to begin the formal transfer of power, all the more urgent this year because of the financial crisis. Mr. Obama has said he expects a "substantive conversation between myself and the president."

Though the meeting has plenty of potential for tense moments - Obama spent hours on the campaign trail denouncing Bush's "failed policies" and Bush once praised Obama's primary rival, Hillary Clinton, as "more ready to be president" - Bush is said to have newfound respect for Obama's campaigning skills and appreciates the potential to gain some goodwill by being a gracious host, reports the Times:

"President Bush is a realist," said this friend, who spoke anonymously to disclose his private conversation with the president. "He has a way of coming to grips with things and moving on. The people have spoken."


For Mr. Bush, the meeting has a distinct upside: the chance to take the edge off his unpopularity. Democrats are already praising him as gracious for his post-election speech in the Rose Garden, where he said it would be a "stirring sight" to see the Obama family move into the White House. The meeting on Monday will give Mr. Bush an opportunity to produce lasting images of that graciousness.

Already, Obama seems to have usurped Bush when it comes to commanding authority on the important issues of the day, according to the Christian Science Monitor:

Barack Obama speaks, and the world listens - more intently, at this point, than it does to the actual president of the United States. President-elect Obama can inspire and alarm, calm markets or add to jitters. And with the nation in economic crisis, he seems keenly aware of that...


But he is avoiding doing anything now, either as a sitting senator or as president-elect, that would give him ownership of decisions made between now and Inauguration Day. Obama will not attend the G-20 meeting on Nov. 15, a summit of world leaders to be convened in Washington for crisis economic talks...

Still, Obama already enjoys an important tool of the presidency: the bully pulpit. For now, "that's the one power he has, to inspire and reassure," says Paul Light, an expert on presidential transitions at New York University.

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When the men first met back in 2006 over breakfast at the White House, things didn't go so well.

Obama recounted the meeting in his book, "Audacity of Hope," recalling Bush's use of hand sanitizer, odd sense of humor and attempt at advice.

Bush wasn't happy with Obama's description of the meeting, expressing his irritation to Bill Sammon, Fox News' Washington Deputy Managing Editor:

The two men shook hands and then, according to Obama, Bush turned to an aide, "who squirted a big dollop of hand sanitizer in the president's hand."


Bush then offered some to Obama, who recalled: "Not wanting to seem unhygienic, I took a squirt."

The president then led Obama off to one side of the room, where Bush said: "I hope you don't mind me giving you a piece of advice."...

"You've got a bright future," Bush said presciently. "Very bright. But I've been in this town awhile and, let me tell you, it can be tough. When you get a lot of attention like you've been getting, people start gunnin' for ya. And it won't necessarily just be coming from my side, you understand. From yours, too. Everybody'll be waiting for you to slip, know what I mean? So watch yourself."...

Obama laughed and even "put my arm around his shoulder as we talked," he recalled, although he added the gesture "might have made many of my friends, not to mention the Secret Service agents in the room, more than a little uneasy."

Despite this display of bonhomie, Obama said the president's demeanor turned downright frightening when he laid out his agenda to the freshly minted lawmakers.

"Suddenly it felt as if somebody in a back room had flipped a switch," Obama wrote. "The president's eyes became fixed; his voice took on the agitated, rapid tone of someone neither accustomed to nor welcoming interruption; his easy affability was replaced by an almost messianic certainty. As I watched my mostly Republican Senate colleagues hang on his every word, I was reminded of the dangerous isolation that power can bring, and appreciated the Founders' wisdom in designating a system to keep power in check."

When I quoted from this passage to Bush during an Oval Office interview, the president seemed irritated to learn he had been taken to task by the senator he once counseled.

I thought I was actually showing some kindness," Bush said indignantly. "And out of that he came with this belief?"

The president added with a bit of a scowl: "He doesn't know me very well."

In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House. In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own perso...
In a moment laden with symbolism and simmering tension, President-elect Barack Obama meets with President Bush today at the White House. In addition to Obama and wife Michelle getting their own perso...
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This is more an emergence from a deep restless nightmare than it is a transfer of power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 11/10/2008

The American Dream is awakening from the Republican nightmare.­.. Hurry up 1/21/2009!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 11/10/2008
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If you wanted change, you should have elected Nader, not Obama.

With Obama you are going to get a continuation of Bush/Clinton policies, with even the SAME PEOPLE in the SAME POSITIONS.

I tried to warn you about it but HuffPo, being the Democrat shill they are, didn't want to publish my posts.

Nader was the candidate of change, of social justice, and the Constitution. Obama/McCain, not a dime's worth of difference on the Big Picture.

-Wexler

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 11/10/2008

Nadar is a world classasshole.
I'm sure any posts of your that weren't published were as worthless as the one I am replying too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 11/10/2008
- WWWexler I'm a Fan of WWWexler 35 fans permalink
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Haha... is this an example of a clever retort? You have Mindless Chanter written all over you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 11/10/2008
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o grow up, Nader is unrealistic and incompetent

get over it

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 11/10/2008
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You are about to get schooled in incompeten­t... had you read any of Nader's work, you would know what I'm talking about, but I think I'll just let you find out on your own.

You won't even know what hit you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 11/10/2008

I guess you're right if you prefer a jump off the cliff rather than a slow tumble down the mountain.

The end result is the same, only the timing is different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 11/10/2008
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quit being such a crybaby, you sissy

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 11/10/2008
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Speaking of "jumping off a cliff"...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 11/10/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 605 fans permalink
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nader accepted $50,000 in campaign contributions from the REPUBLICAN party in 2000, and refused to give it back when he was exposed. he put his own ego before EVERYTHING else.

he has no credibility, and probably will never regain it. he did that to himself, and even he has admitted that he was wrong about just how bad bush was going to be. it's just about 4500 american and nearly a million iraqi lives too late for him to be saying that now. and that's not counting the wounded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 11/10/2008

Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 11/10/2008
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You still here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 11/10/2008
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Gov. Sarah Palin blames the Bush administration for the failure of the McCain-Palin ticket

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 11/10/2008
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Of course she does. She is not intelligent enough to know that she cost McCain the election. She is and was unqualified, mentally not capable of holding the highest office in the land.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 11/10/2008

"The two men shook hands and then, according to Obama, Bush turned to an aide, "who squirted a big dollop of hand sanitizer in the president's hand." ... The president then led Obama off to one side of the room, where Bush said: "I hope you don't mind me giving you a piece of advice.""

My bet is Bush who seems to favor intimidation over dialogue in negotiations is going to plead with Obama not to appoint a special prosecutor(ala Ken Starr) to look into possible criminal activity by Bush/Cheney and others in the current administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 11/10/2008

The list of Blanket Pardons issued by Bush before he leaves is going to read like a "who's who" of his 8 years in office, right up to and including Richard Cheney. Can a sitting President pardon himself? The whole sordid affair will confirm the criminality of the last 8 years - especially if he pardons himself and Cheney. Isn't there anything Obama can do to reverse Bush's pardons and prosecute these crooks?

Hey, here's an idea: Leave Guantanamo open and send all the "Loyal Bushies" there for 5-15 years!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 11/10/2008

LOL ... I'll have to look into "can a sitting President pardon himself". It's a good question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 11/10/2008

Oh...Obama will save the world from destruction. He will pay my for gas, my rent, my clothing - the evil Bush could not do that. He will single-handedly find a cure for AIDS, poverty, war and economic devastation. Obama will light the path for all of us as we navigate our way through life. All praise be to "the Obama". And the Oprah for bringing him to us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 11/10/2008
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Did anyone watch 1600 Pennsylvania on Friday with Mika hosting when O'Donnell went off attacking Palin with Pat Buchanan on the show as his girlfriend was on the show? It's a hoot! Mika had no control of the interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD_e4yTQpg8

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 11/10/2008
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O'Donnell - "You belong to a party that celebrates ignorance".

Truer words never spoken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 11/10/2008

It was awesome

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 11/10/2008
- Pegi I'm a Fan of Pegi 46 fans permalink

mika never has control over the show. she changes her mind constantly, notice the new palin hairdo she sports lately? she is in love with sarah palin, just waitin' on the twang and the glasses!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 11/10/2008
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Obama may I suggest every book he gives you is likely to be cooked , so protect your back on everything. It will all come to light just dont be so gullible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 11/10/2008
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When has Obama ever proven to be gullible? You post makes zero sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 11/10/2008
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Off topic: But PLEASE get rid of Morning Joe.
or at least get that mentally challenged Mika some help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 11/10/2008
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I so so agree!! all you have to do is keep e-mailing her telling how she s u c k s! it makes her cry! lol lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 11/10/2008
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What? You dont like Mika and her insightful and pithy comments like...."M­mmmm" and "Ahhhh" and "Oh-Oh"?? She just cannot get over her girl crush on Palin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 11/10/2008
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Let's not forget her fakely gushing over every guests books as if they are the greatest books she ever - didn't read! You have to know she's not a very deep reader - more a magazine flipper!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 11/10/2008
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Hey Y' all! I like to listen to that show in the morning, but Joe is an angry Repubilcan that will never be elected into any office even as a dog catcher, and Mika sucks more than anyone I ever know. Mika lacks logic and clear thought processing. Those two biases are overt at all times. Get rid of those two and it will be a great show to watch again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 11/10/2008

Change the channel. That's the only way things will change.

I actually enjoy CNN Morning. John and Paula are really easy to listen to and provide the news, no b.s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 11/10/2008
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HA!!! Joe said F U while telling a story. Mika said later how "They're in the trenches every day" and how mistakes happen. blah blah blah. Like she's reporting from a war zone. Then she told Joe "to come to mommy'?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 11/10/2008

OK, I guess we should start a "Fantasy Cabinet Picks" league.

I am going to pick Hagel as SOD since the dems can't afford to give up Webbs seat in the senate.
I understand why many of you will disagree (Because dems have a reputation of being weak on defense).
But I like the reach across the isle. Hagel has shown himself to be pragmatic when it comes to war, (he did accompany Obama on his trip to Ir aq) and his conservative views on ab ortion will not come into play. His wife was an open supporter of Obama ,and if I had to bet $$ I would bet that Hagel voted for O.
Let me also be clear that I have faith in Obama to make the right choices even if I don't agree with some of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 11/10/2008

I also have to ad that in the Hagel's interveiw in "The New Yorker" his wife said, flat out, that if she saw the Cheneys were on the invite list to a party they would decline to go. That is more standup than many dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 11/10/2008
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He's be fine as SOD but I want him as SOS.

Does he have a brother?

:]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 11/10/2008

I am not sure why Obama didn't seek Hoe's advisement when he decided on a Chief of Staff.

Hoe says he should have picked Daschle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 11/10/2008

Asking Hoe for ideas to pick a Chief of Staff makes almost as much sense as asking C h i m p y to recite poetry ..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 11/10/2008
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Don't faint that you actually agree with Doucheborough once in a while, it's happened to all of us at one time or another.

;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 11/10/2008

I am finally happy with the Rahm pick.

Hoe has convinced me it was a great pick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 11/10/2008
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Daschle could not protect Obama from the extreme left in Congress the way Emanuel can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 11/10/2008

And Obama needs "protection" from the "extreme left" based upon what , c r e t i n ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 11/10/2008
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LOL...yeah I think Emanuel is intended to protect Mr. O from the extreme left than any of the right. The Dems in Congress are more afraid of Emanuel probably. Off topic: I am freaking..­..my portfolio has lost over $20,000 in the last year and just $8,000 in the last month. At this rate, I will be wiped out soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 11/10/2008

Daschle is as weak as they come. Nice guys finish last, especially in politics.
Morning Shmoe wishes he would have picked Daschle. Shmoe is as transparent as he is st upid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 11/10/2008

I am finally happy with the Rahm pick.

The more Hoe is angry the more I like Rahm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 11/10/2008
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Joe wants a pushover like Daschle so that he could say Obama is weak. He didn't get his wish, which puts a smile of my face

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 11/10/2008
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Obama should ask if he could look in the closets. He needs to know what skeletons are in there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 AM on 11/10/2008
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what's really f`r`i`g`h`­t`e`n`i`n`­g is the idea of ,|s ,@, r , @ , h, and ,|m , i , k , e , , , |h , v , c , k , @ , b , e , e , as the future of the r&publican party. i'm just waiting for them to resurrect , t , o , r , q , u , e , m ,@, d ,a , and be done with it. i hope the manufacturers of ,,, h ,@,l ,d, 0 ,l, and ,,,,|t,|h,­|0,r,@,z,i­,,n,e are stocking up. those two are shocking excuses for "human beings," and i'm not sure there's enough ,,a,n,t,i-­,,,-|p,-|s­,-|y,-c,h-­,o-,t-,,i-­,c- d`r`u`g`s` in the whole world to make them normal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 AM on 11/10/2008

Our journey on this planet is a great gift. Life is too short, fragile and precious to spend it in anger and unhappiness.

Every day is a chance to be kind, to each other and to ourselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 AM on 11/10/2008

Like the "compassionate Christian" fouling the White House has been ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 11/10/2008
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how dare you try to use my own words against me when you support members of your own party whose cruelty, brutality and inhumanity is mind-boggling.

before you criticize ANYONE, you should see if you and the party you support is beyond blame. what you are doing is a typical republican gradeschool ploy, and it just won't work anymore.

if you think you are going to force genuine liberals to roll over and take or risk being called "hypocritical" by the biggest hypocrites on the planet, you are sorely mistaken.

we aren't the ones who turned a blind eye to 'w'a'r', poverty, the biggest -t-h-e-f-t from the u.s. treasury in history, a complete disregard for the law, supported 't'o'r't'u'r''e' and shrugged as one of the great cities of this country was wiped off the map.

fix YOURSELF, and then get back to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 11/10/2008
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I completely understand your worry - but honestly - if the Republicans go that route, that rabid base will end up a third party. I'm pretty sure that the country has moved on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 11/10/2008
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gawd, i hope so. i really do. but 45% of this country voted for mccain, and some positively cro-magnon measures regarding the rights of homosexuals in this country passed in four states. i couldn't believe it, and it really bothers me that such a thing happened.

there are still an awful lot of angry, `b`i`g`o`t`e`d people out there on the right, and there's an awful lot of work to do just to get back upright. obama's election was a great thing, and i can't remember ever feeling so elated after an election, but there is a very long road ahead, and a lot more people who stubbornly cling to the opposition for me to feel comfortable just yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 11/10/2008
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Have you ever read a blog that is very very, way too long? So long you don't bother with it?
Your way of typing has made me bypass your thoughts. I may have agreed but we will never know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 11/10/2008
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it's the word filter here, not me. the symbols are what have become the lingua franca here for bypassing the word filters to get a comment posted. take your beef to the m0derators, not me. i'm not the one doing the cens0ring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 11/10/2008
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test

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 11/10/2008

Your microphone seems to be working ..........­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 11/10/2008
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mornin', hot stuff.....­...; )

it took me FOUR tries to get a comment through because the word {|nazis here didn't like something i said.

i'm starting to think they should just do this website in semaphore.­........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 11/10/2008

On the contrary, W, he knows you very well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 11/10/2008
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I just hear on MSNBC, that when Obama first met Bush after he became senator, after they shook hands, Bush turned to an aid and he sprayed a hand sanitizer on Bush's hands, Bush then asked Obama if he wanted his hands sprayed, and he did so, saying there were lots of colds around

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 AM on 11/10/2008
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