Anti-Abortion Groups Invigorated By Obama Win

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DAVID CRARY | November 11, 2008 04:42 PM EST | AP

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In a Tuesday, Nov. 4, 2008 photo, Samantha Scarlata and her son Kade cheer for the cameras at the Vote Yes for Life election celebration in Sioux Falls, S.D. With Democrats now in full control in Washington, tactics for anti-abortion groups are likely to refocus on street protests, grass-roots activism and state legislation. (AP Photo/Doug Dreyer)

NEW YORK — Despite election setbacks on many fronts, anti-abortion leaders sound more defiant than deflated as they brace for a future with fewer friends in high places.

With Democrats soon to be in full control in Washington, tactics for anti-abortion groups are likely to refocus on street protests, grass-roots activism and state legislation. One major three-day protest is scheduled to start in the nation's capital on Jan. 21, a day after Barack Obama's inauguration as president.

"The election forces the pro-life movement to go back to what we do best _ local grass-roots organizing," said the Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition. "We will not go silently into the night."

At almost every level, last week's election was a stinging defeat for the anti-abortion movement, starting with Obama's presidential victory. Priests for Life said voters "made a grave mistake," while Mahoney's group, in a refrain shared by many conservatives, contended that Obama will be "the most radical pro-abortion president" in U.S. history.

In Congress, supporters of abortion rights now hold 17 more seats in the House and at least four more in the Senate, according to NARAL Pro-Choice America. And at the state level, voters in Colorado, South Dakota and California defeated ballot measures that would have banned or restricted abortions.

Obama's election also dashed hopes within the anti-abortion movement for possible Supreme Court vacancies over the next four years to be filled by judges who might support reversal of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision establishing a right to abortion.

The overall outcome "brings about feelings of great disappointment, of anger," said the Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life. "But that disappointment and anger are forms of energy. ...I believe a lot of people on the sidelines for last eight years will now get engaged."

Pavone predicted that activists would stage more mass demonstrations and abortion-clinic vigils. He also said the election results shed light on the movement's weak points, and would prompt new efforts to register anti-abortion voters and mobilize clergy to be more outspoken in future campaigns.

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Another outlet for activism is the ever-growing network of local pregnancy centers run by anti-abortion staffers who seek to persuade young women with unintended pregnancies to choose adoption or single motherhood over abortion.

"While legislative efforts to protect the unborn and women from abortion may be limited in future years, the work of pregnancy centers is advancing stronger than ever," said Melinda Delahoyde, president of Care Net. Her network supports 1,100 centers, and is concentrating expansion efforts in black and Hispanic inner-city areas.

Delahoyde said she hoped Obama would live up to his campaign rhetoric and reach out to groups with different views, including the anti-abortion movement.

"We have a lot to bring to the table," she said. "Don't exclude us because we don't line up with you on certain issues."

One of those issues is contraception. Under a Democratic-led government, abortion-rights supporters will call on conservatives to join in an effort to reduce abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies. Anti-abortion leaders say they are unwilling to do this if it means abandoning their abstinence-only approach and supporting greater access to birth control for unmarried women.

"We have a totally different view from other side in how we look at sexuality," said Pavone. "That's where there's no common ground."

Although anti-abortion leaders have abandoned any short-term hopes for favorable legislation out of Congress, they are prepared to lobby intensely if Democrats try to push through a long-pending abortion-rights bill called the Freedom of Choice Act. It would likely override scores of state laws that place limited restrictions on abortion _ including parental notification laws and mandatory waiting periods before an abortion.

"We will do everything to be sure it fails _ the damage it would do to the pro-life movement would be immeasurable," said Mahoney. "On the scale of 1 to 10, that's No. 11 of what our job is."

Another priority, Mahoney said, would be to insist that any health-care legislation emerging from the new Congress does not open the door to any federal funding of abortions.

Within the abortion-rights movement, the election results were viewed as a comprehensive victory, and a repudiation of their rivals.

"The hardline, divisive tactics they've used have been resoundingly rejected," said Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America. "We'll probably see some splintering within the conservative community. ...I'd hope some of the folks on the right, if their goal is to reduce the need for abortions, would link arms with us."

But for now, anti-abortion leaders are eager to appear undaunted.

"Any time you have a loss like that, you have an opportunity to reassess and come back stronger," said Charmaine Yoest, president of Americans United for Life. "If they want to see this as a big loss that will set us back, that's OK. Our people are very energized, and ready for Round Two."

To Alesha Doan, a University of Kansas political scientist who studies the anti-abortion movement, the feisty response and the vows of street protests make sense.

"I'd be shocked if the pro-life movement stopped protesting _ that's been the area where they've had success in closing some abortion clinics," she said. "If you compromise, you lose the core of the movement."

NEW YORK — Despite election setbacks on many fronts, anti-abortion leaders sound more defiant than deflated as they brace for a future with fewer friends in high places. With Democrats soon to ...
NEW YORK — Despite election setbacks on many fronts, anti-abortion leaders sound more defiant than deflated as they brace for a future with fewer friends in high places. With Democrats soon to ...
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- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 82 fans permalink

The 'right to life' movement is short-sighted in its tactics. Abstinence does not work. People have sex! Limiting access to contraceptives and sex education increases the number of unwanted pregnancies and thus leads to an increase in abortions. If the goal is to end abortion, make it so that the pregnancies that do occur are wanted. And work on reducing poverty so that poor women can afford to keep their babies and raise them.

Abortion should be safe, legal, and RARE! I agree that abortion should never become a substitute for birth control, so make birth control available to everyone so that abortions aren't the first resort, but the last resort.

And by all means keep up the work with encouraging women to give up babies for adoption. I have no problem at all with pregnancy centres that spell out all of the alternatives to women with unwanted pregnancies and give them a variety of options so that they can CHOOSE what to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 AM on 11/12/2008
- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 82 fans permalink

Ugh, I mean by encouraging women that don't want the babies, to give them up for adoption. I'm not saying all women should give up their children for adoption! :-) Personally I think adoption is a better option than abortion for unwanted babies, but that is my personal opinion and what I hope I would have done had I ever become pregnant and not been able for whatever reason to become a parent. I still think women should have the right to choose, but I do wish adoption was presented in a more favorable light as an option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 AM on 11/12/2008

How poor do you have to be to not be able to afford a condem, and if they are that poor how do they afford the abortion?? Dont get me wrong a person has the right to choose, but they do not have a right to choose who pays for their poor choices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 11/12/2008

Donors to planned parenthood pay for poor women to have abortions, not taxpayers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 11/12/2008
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Abortion is a sticky wicket indeed. But, while I'm pro-choice (because I'm 1. Not a woman; and 2. Not in favor of creating a national medical crisis by reversing Roe v. Wade), I think what's represented in the picture in this article is just wrong:

Any time you put a contentious sign in a child's hands, for whatever cause (political, religious, social, etc.), you open your message to ridicule. Children have NO IDEA about the positions your pushing. They can make no rational decision about the cause their parents support. To thrust them into the middle of ANY debate, no matter what it is or how strongly you believe in it, comes across as selfish and immature. And it makes their parents look desperate and simpleminded.

Adults are encouraged to argue the issues in our society. But forcing the young to the front lines to protest issues they simply can not understand is nothing short of pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 11/12/2008
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That's an excellent point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 11/19/2008

"One of those issues is contraception. Under a Democratic-led government, abortion-rights supporters will call on conservatives to join in an effort to reduce abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies. Anti-abortion leaders say they are unwilling to do this if it means abandoning their abstinence-only approach and supporting greater access to birth control for unmarried women.

"We have a totally different view from other side in how we look at sexuality," said Pavone. "That's where there's no common ground." "

This segment is most telling. Any pragmatist would say that the goal should be reducing unwanted pregnancies. But here this particular wing of the anti-abortionist movement show that it's not about children, it's not about "murder", but about pushing a conservative agenda. Wake up!!! If you are against abortion the best way to prevent it is through proper sex education and promotion of safe sex practices. Personally I think it is disgusting that abortion is being used as cover for some other agenda

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 11/12/2008
- lunchlady I'm a Fan of lunchlady 17 fans permalink

ITA. Pavone states the big difference himself. He would like to see an end to all sexual activity that doesn't meet his very restrictive criteria, so he can't condone birth control since that helps support sexual activity he doesn't approve of. This reminds me of the rules for women in the Middle East and other places. Another unfavorable similarity between their religious extremists and ours.
Abstinence-only doesn't seem to work very well, even for some nuns and priests. And what about couples who manage to fit his parameters but don't want to be making babies at that moment? He might think abstinence is the answer for them too. Good luck, ladies and gentleman. Sexual desire and activity have a way of happening, even when the participants try to avoid it. Telling people Just Don't Do It fails miserably again and again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 AM on 11/12/2008

Especially with a culture like this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 11/12/2008
- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 82 fans permalink

This attitude is what is so frustrating to me about the anti-abortion pro-life movement. It is entirely unrealistic to oppose contraception in the name of abstinence only approaches.

If the goal is to reduce abortions, reduce unwanted pregnancies, reduce poverty so that women who do get pregnant are more likely to keep the babies. The attitude of Pavone is so unconstructive and hardens divides and makes compromise less likely. Let him preach abstinence from his pulpit to like-minded parishioners, but this is a pluralistic society with a range of views on sexual and reproductive health rights it is not a fundamentalist Taliban-like state. If he wants to convert people let him, but don't legislate peopes' morality or religious views. Good grief---people like Pavone give Christianity a bad name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 AM on 11/12/2008
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It just goes to show that the anti's are never really willing to compromise with the other side in any way. It's got to be "their way" or nothing at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 11/19/2008
- CALAVA I'm a Fan of CALAVA 5 fans permalink

Abortion is murder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 11/12/2008

Simply said and absolutely true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 11/12/2008
- bigbenny I'm a Fan of bigbenny 43 fans permalink
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How do you feel about preventing pregnancies with contraceptives?

Is the mom a murderer if she aborts the fetus herself?

What if the mom will die if the fetus isn't aborted? Is the doctor that saves her a murderer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 11/12/2008

My reply "simply said and absolutely true," was addressed to CALAVA's "Abortion is murder," but the order here made it look as if I was agreeing with bigbenny. Not so!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 11/12/2008
- CALAVA I'm a Fan of CALAVA 5 fans permalink

I am a pro-life Democrat who is Catholic and I accept all teachings of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

I was always taught that the Democratic party helped and protected the most vulnerable. Unborn babies are at the top of that list. I will never be a Republican but what I see in the Democratic party makes me very sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 AM on 11/12/2008

A woman has the right to decide if she wants an abortion or not. No man, no law or no religion has any say in this, period. In Germany, even the catholic church has counceling offices for women who are looking for help. They do not like the issue of abortion as well, but leave it to the woman to decide. It is far from the truth to think it is an "easy" question for a pregnant woman. Our society has accepted it is a very personal issue and should not be controlled by anyone else but the woman. Before the seventies the catholic church was stricter against abortion, but had to give up that position as more and more catholics felt strongly to forbid abortion is wrong. Maybe your hardcore evangelicals can undergo a process of evolution too and start living in this century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 11/12/2008

In the 1980’s, the Republican Party saw how slick televangelists, infamous crooks like Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Baker, etc., sucked hundreds of millions of dollars out of trusting people, often their life savings, and the glint in their eyes saw gold. They recognized a huge pool of already organized voters – church members, and that is when the Republican Party invented anti-abortion as a political issue. A brilliant political move, but that is all it is. They convince people of faith that unless they are anti-choice, they are not patriotic Americans and God will send them to Hell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 11/12/2008

Just when did the Catholic Church "give up that position?" Nonsense. Just because some Catholics seem to choose which teachings they will support, does not make it right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 11/12/2008

Maybe Rome still holds on to that position. In Germany I can assure you this position of striclty anti-abortion did not work. Too many catholics quit "their church" because they felt a woman has every right to do with her body what she wants. It is not human to let women suffer on an issue which is their own business. Germany is a free country. Let every woman decide for herself and church and government stay out of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 AM on 11/12/2008
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Yet Catholics pick and choose what they support all the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 11/19/2008

We are only one week from a historic election that did more to unite our Nation than divide it. It did not take long to divide us again did it? We are a nation that is diverse: in color, religion, and politics. We have freedom that was never possible in the centuries past, freedom to think and hold to personal values. Are we really willing to give up this freedom? To hold that the teaching of one imperfect religion is to be a deerminent factor? I hope not.
The battle line is being drawn as I write. How can we claim to be a free diverse nation, an accepting nation if we demand the will of one group predominate over another on a "value" issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 11/12/2008
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 25 fans permalink

Even before Roe-Wade, women were getting abortions one way or another.
Granted, a few of them had serious problems with the results but so do some women who have
"legal abortions".

Pres-elect Obama said he believes in Women's right to choose.
There are other ways.....the young "boys and girls" need to be educated and TV and movies need to
quit making it look like it is alright for all the casual sex that goes on.

I believe in THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE.....SO CHOOSE LIFE....IT IS RIGHT....
If a lot of women would use their head instead of their emotions, maybe there wouldn't be such a need
for the thousands of babies who have and are still being aborted by careless teens and women.
However, there are circumstances that would require an abortion....but it shouldn't be the norm....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 11/12/2008
- colleen2 I'm a Fan of colleen2 5 fans permalink

"If a lot of women would use their head instead of their emotions, maybe there wouldn't be such a need"

Why is it that the 'pro-life' crowd never acknowledges that for each and every unwanted pregnancy a male is at least 50% responsible and is seldom made accountable.
If it weren't the norm that male responsibility is morally and effectively optional there would be fewer abortions and yet you folks never mention this. Why is that?. .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 11/12/2008
- nana4g I'm a Fan of nana4g 112 fans permalink

Perhaps the Catholic Church should begin teaching young girls aged 12yrs old about self respect and the ability to delay sexual activity until adulthood and the promise of education and independence. Since the Catholic Church really does not condone any contraception other than abstinence, basically, and is against abortion, and says NOTHING about premarital sex among teens and young adults, and NOTHING about child abuse, neglect and death from the same, why should we listen to them?

It was not so long ago the Catholic Church was so anti divorce that they told women they MUST stay in an abusive marriage.

It was not so long ago the Catholic Church was exposed for widespread sexual abuse of her children.

I am sick and tired of their every four year condemnation of really good Catholic men who have spent their lives in government service, authoring legislation that protects women and children, that provides for all things that support and sustain the dignity of life. I think they need to put their money where their mouth is and realize the best way to combat this issue is through developing a wide support system throughout the nation that provides all services that will result in the lack of need for abortion: sex education, family planning, transitional housing for single mothers, adoption services, job training, education, employment for mothers, child care for the children, and follow up parenting classes with monitoring of young mothers with babies; education and intervention to prevent child abuse, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 11/14/2008
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until they walk in the shoes of those who have been Raped and Molested They need to shut the Hell up!!!!
I am a Christian, I am a Christian that Believes That Jesus Died For my Sins!

Where is your Faith?

When I lost my Virginity it was not by Choice!
Had I gotten pregnant I would have aborted!!!!! I would not have even thought to carry that Demon spawn!
I do not think my God is so Cruel that he would not care of My Feelings! My God would not doom me to Hell for all Eternity for this Choice.
However if I just went out there spreading my legs like peanut butter I must accept the Responsibility of my Actions!
He is a loving God, a Understanding God!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 11/12/2008

using your logic........i can not be outspoken against the fire department levy until i have had my house burn down........wow

i do not need to walk in anyone's shoes to speak out against their actions........

i do not need to have ever done drugs to speak out against them

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 11/12/2008
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Then you are making a Judgement against someone that you know nothing about
and that My Friend is a Sin!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 11/12/2008
- beckpod1 I'm a Fan of beckpod1 35 fans permalink

Time to start taxing these political christian organizations....
If they really cared they would develop a better strategy for saving souls...and what are they doing to young minds with the Garden of Eden?
Legislating a "free will",doesn't work.....inspiring a free will..works everytime! The christians display a corp.god...and it only sells to people who believe anything their tv tells them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 11/12/2008

really. so inspire me now please

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 11/12/2008

Pavone & others are so caught up in their hate speeches & self importance, they fail to notice the steady drip, drip of smart, good catholics tuning out & walking out!
As a daily mass, rosary praying catholic, all my charity giving was to all things catholic, including the catholic t.v network -EWTN. But I stopped this year & instead maxed out for Obama - 1st time ever.
EWTN lost my support when I tuned in to say the rosary and instead was subjected to Laura Ingraham(!) spewing venom-filled rubbish - I felt so violated; words simply couldn't describe it. It was like coming home and finding your home infested with disease-carrying vermin.
Pavone during one of his sermons described a vote for a pro-choice candidate as an "accomplice to a homicide"!
Mid year, I suffered a serious faith crisis as I watched the likes of Hannity, O'reilly, Palin, Pavone etc. attempt to hijack my God & my faith.
I fought back with prayer and they all continue to be exposed for the self-serving, narcissistic frauds they all are-
The irony for me was that the much disparaged Obama turned out to have infinitely more Christian charity, decency & respect for others than these horrid folks. Obama actually lives those much touted and much exploited "christian moral & family values" Pavone, Palin & their ilk keep throwing around but somehow simply fail to live up to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 11/12/2008

Pardon me, but where do you get "hate speeches?" The Priests for Life website does not have anything like that. One of their priests on staff used to be an associate at our parish and is a wonderful, spiritual person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 11/12/2008
- colleen2 I'm a Fan of colleen2 5 fans permalink

The misogyny of 'Priests for Life' is palpable. I am sorry this translates as 'spiritual' for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 11/12/2008
- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 82 fans permalink

Thanks for your post. It's heartening to know of others who've seen the genuine nature of Obama's Christian faith and have seen through some of the rhetoric of 'Christians' who presume to think that they have the market cornered on faith and spirituality.

I hope your crisis of faith leads you to a deeper spirituality. Thank you for being willing to be challenged.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 AM on 11/12/2008
- Sardonica I'm a Fan of Sardonica 99 fans permalink
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The Republicans have been in power for the majority of the last 25 years - including 6 of the last 8 years in which they controlled everything. And yet somehow they've been unable to get Roe overturned. Seems fishy.

Republicans are playing the anti-abortion voters for suckers. If Roe gets repealed, those single-issue voters will have no reason to come out and vote anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 11/12/2008

that's exactly what i've been saying

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 11/12/2008
- mamiel I'm a Fan of mamiel 2 fans permalink

Absolutely true. This issue and gay marriage are basically all the Republican party has going for it any more.

I am also a seriously disillusioned former Catholic who is bewildered as to why the Catholic church has decided to become the Catholic Republican party. Since when is abortion a worse transgression on human rights than dropping bombs on civilians? Why are democrats denied at the communion rail when pro-war and pro-death penalty politicians are served?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 11/12/2008

"Under a Democratic-led government, abortion-rights supporters will call on conservatives to join in an effort to reduce abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies. Anti-abortion leaders say they are unwilling to do this if it means abandoning their abstinence-only approach and supporting greater access to birth control for unmarried women.
"We have a totally different view from other side in how we look at sexuality," said Pavone. "That's where there's no common ground."

I went to high school in U.S.and Europe. In U.S. I lived in a small town with many religious conservatives, & abstinence-only education....but SO many teen pregnancies including 3 out of 5 girls on the homecoming court!. I knew some who had abortions and some had the babies.

In my European school there was open discussion of contraception, even a condom poster on the wall of our home room. And, although of course there may have been abortions I didnt know about, one does hear gossip, and I really do think it was a much lower pregnancy rate.

I think the amount of sexual activity was similar in both places. But, ironically the abstinence-only attitude leads to more teen pregnancy. Kids still had sex but found it psychologically easier to pretend they never MEANT to do it -- "it just happened" (and often intentionally got drunk/high to give them an excuse). Using contraception would have meant they were actually INTENDING to sin. Result = unmarried pregnancy & STDs..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 11/12/2008
- kotipup I'm a Fan of kotipup 3 fans permalink

My biggest problem with anti abortion laws is that they don't stop women from having abortions; they can cause women to have back-room abortions which end up risking the woman's life. Countries that outlaw abortion often have higher abortion and abandoned infant rates. I believe educating people, offering birth control, offering support services etc would go a lot further.

For example, as a mom to a special-needs child, it bothers me that a significant number of parents who discover a genetic abnormality when their fetus is in utero choose to abort that fetus. I would never tell anyone that they should be forced to carry that fetus to term, Unfortunately, though, a lot of people are given outdated information about the potential of a child with, for example, Down's Syndrome and the medical treatment available to them. Further, a whole lot of people simply can't afford the time nor the cost of raising a child with special needs. For them, there really isn't much of a choice. Giving options to women, in my opinion - in the form of health care, birth control, information, support - is a more effective pro-life stance than taking choice away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 11/12/2008

I believe everyone has a right to their personal belief on abortion. I do not condone it instead of birth control. However, if abortions were illegal, backroom alleys would be used , and the mother would also die. How can people be against abortion and against stem cell research? Not all are, but some.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 11/12/2008
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It is amazing that these people can ignore the hardships that a pregnancy can introduce. Not just physically for a woman. But, economic issues too. A woman may be sick and have to stop working. If she's single, how will she make ends meet? Or feed other children she may have? A young couple may not be able to afford the needs of a pregnancy and a new baby.

These people never seem to take anything into account. Pro-birth and nothing else matters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 11/12/2008
- kjstjohn I'm a Fan of kjstjohn 252 fans permalink
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Caught by the filter again!

Anti-choice people are going to have to make a choice about what they h@te more: giving contr.aception to sexu@lly-active teenages or @bortion. We need to use data to convince them that their current stance is a de facto choice in favor of @bortion.

Do the fundies understand that a huge percentage of their children who say they are rgi.nsns are having unpr0tected or@l se.x, which they think does not count?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 11/12/2008

We may be able to convince some with data, as you suggest, but, sadly, there will always be those who remain impervious to logic because their stance is essentially illogical; it's based in faith, and you can't fight faith with facts. This is what we have to accept if we're to spend our energy fighting the fights we can win rather than wasting resources on fruitless efforts.

Fortunately and as several posters have mentioned here, the vast majority of Americans favor at least some legality of abortion . . . even those who call themselves pro-life. Too many of these individuals have been alienated from the pro-choice cause, however, because of their opposition to late-term abortions. So pro-choice people must be willing to compromise as well if we're ever to come to some agreement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 11/12/2008
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