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SARA LEPRO | November 12, 2008 06:19 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — An increasingly despondent Wall Street fell for the third straight session Wednesday as investors absorbed another series of dismal corporate reports and news that the government won't buy banks' soured mortgage assets after all. The Dow Jones industrials dropped more than 410 points, and all the major indexes lost more than 4 percent.

The stock market has lost about $1 trillion over the past three days, according to the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 index, which reflects the value of nearly all U.S. stocks.

The market started the day falling on more signs that companies are being hurt by a severe pullback in consumer spending. Macy's Inc. said it lost $44 million in the third quarter as sales at the department store retailer fell more than 7 percent. And consumer electronics retailer Best Buy Co. slashed its fiscal 2009 guidance on fears that consumer spending will erode even further.

Meanwhile, Morgan Stanley, suffering from the ongoing losses on Wall Street, outlined plans to cut 10 percent of staff in its institutional securities group _ its biggest business that covers everything from investment banking to stock trading.

More bad news came out after the market closed _ Intel Corp. lowered its fourth-quarter revenue and earnings outlook, citing a spending slowdown that is reducing demand for its computer chips. Intel's stock fell in after-hours trading, and its announcement was likely to trigger more selling across the market on Thursday.

The bleak reports, which followed disappointing news from coffee retailer Starbucks Corp. and homebuilder Toll Brothers Inc. earlier in the week, made it increasingly clear to investors that companies across the economy are suffering from the aftermath of the housing and credit crises.

"There just doesn't appear to be an end in sight to the bad news," said Anton Schutz, portfolio manager of the Burnham Financial Industries Fund and the Burnham Financial Services Fund. "The selling is relentless."

There was more pain at mid-morning, when Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said the government's $700 billion financial rescue package won't purchase troubled assets from banks. He said that plan would have taken too much time, and that the Treasury instead will rely on buying stakes in banks and encouraging them to resume more normal lending.

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While the market had been pleased by the government's decision weeks ago to buy banks' stock, investors still hoped to see the financial industry relieved of the burden of the mortgage assets whose decline in value helped set off the nation's financial crisis. His comments, which underscored the anxiety that remains about the health of the financial system, sent stocks falling further.

Analysts believe the market is in the process of retesting the intraday low hit on Oct. 10, when the blue chips fell to 7,882.50.

"We're just going through the typical process of testing and retesting," said Matt King, chief investment officer of Bell Investment Advisors. "If we can continue to build higher and higher lows, that's definitely a positive. If the Dow can build a base above 8,100 and bounce off that, we see that as a definite technical positive."

The selling accelerated in the last hour of the day, as it has done in most sessions over the past two months.

"When there is a lot of volatility, especially on a big down day, people just decide they don't want to own stocks overnight," said Ryan Detrick, senior technical strategist at Schaeffer's Investment Research. "News doesn't drive this lower, fear does. Investors will back the next morning after they see where things settled."

Late-day volatility has also been fed by hedge and mutual funds selling as investors withdraw money from the market.

The Dow shed 411.30, or 4.73 percent, to 8,282.66. It was the lowest close for the Dow since its 5 1/2-year low of 8,175.77 reached on Oct. 27.

According to the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 index, Wednesday's paper losses amounted to about $600 billion. By that measure, the stock market has shed $9.1 trillion since the index's Oct. 9, 2007, peak.

The broader Standard & Poor's 500 index dropped 46.65, or 5.19 percent, to 852.30, and the Nasdaq composite index stumbled 81.69, or 5.17 percent, to 1,499.21.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 29.49, or 6.11 percent, to 452.80.

Declining issues overwhelmed advancers on the New York Stock Exchange, where only 240 stocks rose while 2,869 fell. Consolidated volume came to 5.66 billion shares, up from 4.93 billion shares Tuesday.

Though Paulson's announcement marks a major shift in the original bailout plan and rattled investors, Wall Street analysts generally believe the Treasury is now on the right path.

"That's really what they should have done originally," said King. "First and foremost, we have to make sure banks are going to survive and then we can worry about lending. This is the quickest and most efficient way to do that."

"Buying bad assets doesn't do that," he said.

However, there is some concern that the bailout funds are being depleted rather quickly, said Jason O'Donnell, senior research analyst at Boenning & Scattergood.

"Investors are generally in favor of the emphasis on the capital purchase provisions," O'Donnell said. But, "we're down quickly to a small portion of total funds remaining for other purposes."

Paulson also announced a new goal for the program to support financial markets that supply consumer credit in such areas as credit card debt, auto loans and student loans. He said, "with a stronger capital base, our banks will be more confident" to support economic activity.

But investors are worried that a severe pullback in consumer spending _ which drives more than two-thirds of the U.S. economy _ will prolong a global economic downturn.

Macy's shares fell $1.04, or 11 percent, to $8.37. Best Buy shares tumbled $1.91, or 8 percent, to $21.97.

The future of the country's top automakers remained a major concern on the Street as well, as investors waited to see whether the government would put together a bailout plan for General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler.

General Motors was the only gainer among the 30 Dow stocks Wednesday, rising 16 cents, or 5.5 percent, to $3.08. Ford gained 4 cents, or 2.2 percent, to $1.84.

Morgan Stanley, which converted into a bank holding company in September, said it plans to scale back its institutional securities business before the end of the year. The layoffs it plans are in addition to a 10 percent cut made earlier this year to the group.

Morgan Stanley also plans to restructure its money management business by cutting 9 percent of the group's work force. The securities firm employs about 44,000 people worldwide. Morgan Stanley shares fell $2.14, or 15.2 percent, to $11.94.

Intel, which fell 41 cents to $13.52 during regular trading, fell to $12.56 after hours.

Meanwhile, American Express Co. is said to be seeking about $3.5 billion from the government to help boost its balance sheet, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal citing people familiar with the situation. AmEx, the No. 4 U.S. credit card issuer, won approval Monday from the Federal Reserve to become a bank holding company, which gives it the ability to grow a large deposit base and access financing from the Fed.

AmEx shares dropped $2.35, or 10.5 percent, to $20.05.

Government bond prices, which did not trade Tuesday because of Veterans Day, moved higher as investors looked for safer investments. The three-month Treasury bill's yield fell to 0.13 percent from 0.22 percent late Monday, and the yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note fell to 3.67 percent from 3.76 percent late Monday.

Lower yields indicate stronger demand.

Crude dropped below $57 a barrel Wednesday on the growing realization that global economic growth next year will slow more than originally feared, cutting demand for crude products such as gasoline. Light, sweet crude fell $3.50, or nearly 6 percent, to settle at $56.16 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

The dollar was mixed against other major currencies, while gold prices dipped.

Overseas, Japan's Nikkei closed down 1.29 percent and Hong Kong Hang Seng fell 0.73 percent. In Europe, London's FTSE 100 fell 1.52 percent, Germany's DAX fell 2.96 percent, and France's CAC-40 dropped 3.07 percent.

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NEW YORK — An increasingly despondent Wall Street fell for the third straight session Wednesday as investors absorbed another series of dismal corporate reports and news that the government won'...
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- research I'm a Fan of research 235 fans permalink

The GOP core principles of Privatization and Deregulation caused this crash.

Period.

The Conservative GOP unfettered market concept is WRONG!

FDR was right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 11/13/2008

What part of Obama isn't the president don't America understand. Bush still has over 2 months to completely destroy this country...and I have complete faith that he will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 AM on 11/13/2008

do you honestly think Bush did this single handedly????????

Obama voted for this bailout he is not calling for them to be arrested nor will he CHANGE A THING.

sorry.....this is a group effort.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 11/13/2008
- vandegrasse I'm a Fan of vandegrasse 188 fans permalink
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Here comes the Depression!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 11/13/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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Why only 400 points...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 11/13/2008
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They were supposed to lend the money, not use it to cover their losses, pay shareholders. This is what they call moral hazard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 11/13/2008

at least the criminals on wall street got their bonuses, I was worried that they wouldn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 11/13/2008
- Rosewren I'm a Fan of Rosewren 19 fans permalink
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When the Dow hits 7200 we might be at the bottom. If some kind of clear plan is not implemented before Jan 20 it might end up being worse

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 11/13/2008
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In America, the top 1% (the millionaires) own 40 TRILLION in assets. Three million people. One in a hundred.

Google to see what the rest of us have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 11/12/2008

obama voted for the bailout, wants another one, also wants to bailout the car industry and appoint a car Czar to oversee it. Nancy Pelosi is spending bailouts and promising more packages like a drunken sailor . This is why the stock market has been crashing since the election. These people are going to drown us all in debt. We are soo screwed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 11/12/2008
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Bush and Paulson are the ones who came to Congress and said "Give us 700Billion or the whole economy will collapse." Remember that? Not Obama, not Pelosi. It was Bush's economic "policies" and the criminal malfeasance of his administration that started the economic meltdown and enabled the massive cash-grab to happen in the first place. The criminal greed of Wall Street and the de-regulation of the financial markets caused the economic tsunami that you're drowning in. Funny part is that the entire thing was planned, staged, and done with malice of forethought. Thank your president, George W. Bush for the Great Depression of '08, not Obama.

The 700 Billion bailout, as it was announced today by Henry Paulson, Bush's Treasury Secretary, is not going to be used as requested, but rather "buying stakes in banks and encouraging them to resume more normal lending". In other words, the peoples treasure is being stolen by corporate executives and the people of America get nothing. No mortgage relief, no $300 checks, nada. The really funny part will happen when everyone starts to realize that all these bailouts aren't going to solve anything, they will just drain more of our money to CEO's and old guys wearing ties.

The real outrage is right before your eyes, but you seem to be parroting the right-wing talking points, completely ignoring reality and twisting logic to support your false assertions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 11/13/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 199 fans permalink
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The Republicans were the spendthrifts. Left us 11 trillion in debt and on the verge of total economic collapse. Obama had nothing to do with this fiasco. It was the direct result of the greed, myopia, and stupidity of the Republican mentality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 11/13/2008

And when does Pelosi come up for re-election?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 AM on 11/13/2008
- Mike169 I'm a Fan of Mike169 38 fans permalink
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You've been so screwed by Republicans you don't know which end is up. ..and all without the help of Obama! Go figure!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 11/13/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 87 fans permalink
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Regs baby Regs .... reinstate the Upticks Rule for starters!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 11/12/2008
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Until the toxic loan fiasco / 700BIL bailout dust settles, there will be much volatility. Most are saying nothing will settle down and losses will be predicted for another "8 quarters". Barack will have a rough start for sure but it always settles down and starts a very gradual ascent. Patience is a virtue.
http://www.wallstreet-content.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 11/12/2008
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 138 fans permalink

(Thin smile...)

(1) A drop of 400 points is not, actually, a "plunge." Sorry.

(2) Demand for a business's goods and services is never constant, and (of course...) should never be presumed to be "endlessly rising."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 11/12/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 15 fans permalink
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Welcome to the "Ownership Society".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 11/12/2008
- tomas0808 I'm a Fan of tomas0808 8 fans permalink

Obama may have to do something serious. I propose nationalizing the oil companies. They're going to be obsolete in 50 years anyway, just give the fatcats a payoff and take over. Tell them we'll put their face on a penny or something

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 11/12/2008

None of these politicians, appointed or elected, talks about consumer interest rates and what they're doing about 20% -30% interest rates being charged because someone may have been late with a payment or fallen behind.
The banks 0% - 5% for their money and they can't turn a profit with a REGULATED ceiling for interest rates of 15% - 20% (still ridiculous) to consumers.
It's greed and it's the main cause of the mainstreet woes for small businesses and consumers.
They better get some balls and stand up to the thieves and quick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 11/12/2008
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