Former Congressman Mark Foley Breaks Silence On Sex Scandal

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BRIAN SKOLOFF | November 12, 2008 04:04 AM EST | AP

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Former Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., is interviewed in New York, Monday Nov. 10, 2008. Even two years after Mark Foley's public fall from grace, the former congressman can't explain why he sent lurid computer messages to former male Capitol Hill pages. (AP Photo/Richard Drew)

NEW YORK — Even today, two years after Mark Foley's very public fall from grace, the former congressman can't explain why he sent lurid, sexually explicit computer messages to male teens who had worked as Capitol Hill pages.

Sitting in his room at the Four Seasons Hotel in New York this week, the Florida Republican, wearing a yellow tie with blue elephants, finally broke his silence.

"I'm trying to find my way back," Foley said in an interview with The Associated Press, his first public comments on the scandal since resigning from Congress on Sept. 29, 2006.

Foley insists he did nothing illegal and never had sexual contact with teens, just inappropriate Internet conversations. Investigations by the FBI and Florida authorities ended without criminal charges.

And while he concedes his behavior was "extraordinarily stupid," he remains somewhat unwilling to accept full public scorn.

These were 17-year-olds, just months from being men, he insists.

"There was never anywhere in those conversations where someone said, 'Stop,' or 'I'm not enjoying this,' or 'This is inappropriate' ... but again, I'm the adult here, I'm the congressman," Foley said. "The fact is I allowed it to happen. That's where my responsibility lies."

Foley had built a national reputation as an advocate for tougher penalties against child sexual predators. As co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus, he helped craft a law to protect children on the Internet.

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Still, he said, there was no hypocrisy.

"The work I was doing was involving young children ... You know, you hear the term 'pedophile.' That is prepubescent," Foley said, noting a "huge difference" from lurid chats with teens on the brink of adulthood.

"At the end of the day, they were instant messages that were extraordinarily inappropriate," he added, breathing a heavy sigh, his eyes wandering toward the ceiling.

So why talk now? Sympathy? Forgiveness?

Nope.

Just to free himself from the media clamoring for his first interview.

"I believed I owed my constituents an apology," Foley said. "I embarrassed them and I embarrassed my family and I wanted to have a chance in a public setting to lend my voice to what happened, not through an attorney, not through a spokesperson, but from myself."

Today, he's a pariah in Congress and the Republican Party. The affable man who reveled in the spotlight finds himself branded a pedophile, at best, a creep. Three former staffers refused comment because of their disgust with his behavior. He makes his living investing in real estate and other business.

"In public life, you dream of the day they'll name a hospital after you, or a bridge or a post office," Foley said, twisting a gold band on his ring finger identical to one his high-society dermatologist boyfriend wears.

"If I had a post office named after me today, they'd probably return to sender," he said. "It's not a pleasant place to be. It's not what I envisioned ... working this hard all my life to end up in an ash heap because of a momentary lapse of judgment."

But Foley carried on the computer conversations for months, asking about masturbation, sex, and other details.

Shortly after his resignation, his attorney announced that Foley was gay and an alcoholic and had been molested by a priest as a teenage altar boy in Florida. Foley then checked himself into a treatment facility.

"I loved my early life, and then along comes a priest ... who forces me into a sexual relationship at the age of 12. And right shortly thereafter, I fail eighth grade, I start drugs, I start drinking, I start smoking," he said. "My entire life ... implodes."

He was elected to the U.S. House in 1994 as a popular hometown boy who kept busy in glitzy Palm Beach, Fla., attending lavish parties and fundraisers with the likes of Donald Trump, Jay Leno, and actress Bo Derek.

While his homosexuality was said to be the worst-kept secret on the Hill and around Palm Beach, he cloaked himself in a false public persona, appearing at events with beautiful women.

He drank a lot and spiraled into darkness.

"Those demons that were inside me, by not addressing them, caused me to spin out of control," he said.

He doesn't feel fully responsible for Democrats taking over the House in 2006, but owns up to his role and calls his behavior "profoundly regrettable."

"They had the Republicans on a number of ethical scandals and, you know, I served up for them the moral dilemma," he said.

A Republican won back Foley's congressional district last week after the Democrat who replaced him was caught in an adultery scandal. It's become known as "The Curse of the Mark Foley Seat."

"It's not what I had hoped would be my lasting legacy," he said, pausing to brush away tears.

So what does the man who once was such a popular figure in politics and high-society do now?

"I don't know. I don't know," he said. "I'm just going to take it a day at a time."

NEW YORK — Even today, two years after Mark Foley's very public fall from grace, the former congressman can't explain why he sent lurid, sexually explicit computer messages to male teens who had...
NEW YORK — Even today, two years after Mark Foley's very public fall from grace, the former congressman can't explain why he sent lurid, sexually explicit computer messages to male teens who had...
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GOP = The Party of Situation Ethics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 11/12/2008
- TFDNYC I'm a Fan of TFDNYC 14 fans permalink
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I'm no fan of Mark Foley. Nor am I fan of hypocricy, pedophilia and fundamaental personal dishonesty.

HOWEVER- to lend some perspective on the whole they were 17 going on 18 question. As a 32 y.o. gay man who came out at age 16 I was fully prepared to engage sexually and emotionally with older men by age 17. Certainly not middle-aged men, this was Foley's big mistake. But older than the legal limit, certainly. When you are a gay teenager you live in a very isolated world where the heterosexual rules for dating simply do not apply b/c there is no pool in teenage social settings to find romance or explore. I understand his argument even though I don't approve. But I only disapprove b/c the law is the law and as a citizen and congressperson he has a duty to uphold the law. I would never touch anyone under the age of 18 (25 actually) but this is a maturity question, not a moral one. Age 17-ish+ is old enough for consent. Additionally, the mental state of the 17 year old must also be considered. Was this an emotionally retarded person who was being taken advantage of or was this a gay teeneager searching for a way to express himself sexually in a world that is very oppressive to his identity and crushingly limiting to his sexual development?

THERE IS NO BLACK AND WHITE ALL THE TIME FOLKS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 11/12/2008

Well there is lots of black and white lines which should not be crossed at the workplace (and else where) and this guy surely trespassed every rule in the book. He needs medical help!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 11/12/2008
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Well...

I'm a heterosexual woman who, at the age of 17, dated a nearly 40-yr-old man. I was considered mature by the adults in my life and considered myself mature; however, looking back, that man had no business pursuing me. Honestly, most of my male relatives would probably cause him great bodily harm if they ever found out about it.

Your story is your story, and I cannot comment on it. And I understand your point about the limitations for a gay teen in dating. However, my understanding is that more than one of the kids he was "chatting" with were uncomfortable with his advances.

Age 17 might be old enough for consent for some, but sometimes even kids who think they are old enough really aren't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 11/12/2008
- TFDNYC I'm a Fan of TFDNYC 14 fans permalink
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I agree. Which is why I made the point about being sure to take in account the teen's mental state. I also agree that middle-age is too old for a 17 year old. I was only responding to the idea that a 17 year old is not equipped, in every case, to make sexual decisions for themselves. I fundamentally disaree with that line of thinking. If Mark Foley were, say, 25 and the boy(s) was 17, I think the tone of the conversation around this one component of the discussion would be (or should be) very different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 11/12/2008
- Blue in NH I'm a Fan of Blue in NH 12 fans permalink
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Go home, pervert, and shut up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 11/12/2008
- sammdphd I'm a Fan of sammdphd 3 fans permalink

Did anyone expect anything different to come out of a republican, that is trying to save face? Mr. Foley- you represent what the Republican Party is all about, bigotry, self-affirmation, and hipocrasy. You say you stand for "family values" and you rally your uneducated supporters behind you. You are only able to fool those that follow you. For us on left of you...we see right through that thin veneer youre hiding behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 11/12/2008
- psy I'm a Fan of psy 2 fans permalink

"bla bla bla... the drugs made me do it"

Oh really? If that were the case, we'd have to hold everybody guilty of a crime under the influence innocent, but that's not the way the law works. People are responsible for their actions, period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 11/12/2008
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Creepy is an understatement; why do closet cases always have to blame the priest, step-father, unmarried uncle once they get busted with their pants down? Especially Republicans who've been pointing fingers their whole careers at honest homos who openly, happily enjoy life.

Gayness as their best kept secret...w­hat a hypocritical crock of crap. And don't even get me started on the new Repug mantra, the sanctity of marriage!

If they stick to that tack, the only place they'll carry in 2010 is Hooterville.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 11/12/2008
- sammdphd I'm a Fan of sammdphd 3 fans permalink

LOL, awesome!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 11/12/2008
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The closet door is open...sim­ply step outside!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 11/12/2008
- Eric8869 I'm a Fan of Eric8869 25 fans permalink

Hell no - we don't want him

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 11/12/2008
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I'm all for redemption but not necessarily POLITICAL redemption, not for this man. Why?

Redemption implies some sort of remorse and admission that what he did was wrong for the actual reasons that it was wrong. Mr. Foley seems to think that it was wrong but not for the same reasons all the sane and intelligent people do. And he's so far from remorse that redemption shouldn't even be on the table.

His line appears to be more of a "I'm sorry I got caught and that you thought what I was doing was wrong."

BZZZZT!!! Sorry, Mr. Foley. Wrong answer. Thanks for playing. Here's your Popiel Pocket Fisherman consolation prize. Please exit Stage Left.

And stay exited.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 11/12/2008

Thank God. I thought I was the only one on this site that felt this way. There needs to be actual remorse before we can get to the forgiveness portion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 11/12/2008

He won't be forgiven anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 11/12/2008

and I'm sorry you people misunderstood the meaning of the word pedophile.­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 11/12/2008
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Squirming out of responsibility maybe shouldn't be your first post-scandal public step, Mr. Congressman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 11/12/2008
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That headline was just unbelievab­le..."they were just months away from being men.." Anyone who's raised boys know THAT's not true. Maturing, especially emotionally, is a long, ongoing process. They were still vulnerable kids, and he took advantage of that, hiding behind the letter of the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 11/12/2008
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So now a p'edo-phile only preys on pre-pubescent children?

There are a lot of prosecutors in this country who would beg to differ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 11/12/2008

Regarding your 'question': Actually it's not new, it's never been otherwise. You're confusing different legal terms and laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 11/12/2008
- WRPrintz I'm a Fan of WRPrintz 12 fans permalink

While I believe in the power of personal redemption, Mr. Foley has a long way to go.

As many have pointed out, he has not yet accepted what he did was entirely wrong, not just from an age standpoint, but from a power standpoint. It may be-also as pointed out- that he is a low grade Anti-Social Personality (Sociopath), who while being very charming, can only see harm done to himself, and not to others.

In any event, he sould be watched, and kept far away from any child or young adult, for the rest of his life, and letting him have power or a position of trust should never occur again. If he wants to leave a lasting legacy, there are other ways to go besides having power over other people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 11/12/2008

Foley and Craig should hook up with the Wasilla Singers. Form a line dance similar to the Rockettes, but call it the Cockettes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7trIpspUILg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 11/12/2008
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 48 fans permalink

That's worth 47 points. GR 8 work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 11/12/2008
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He regrets having everything he built suddenly end up on an ash heap. Yet he doesn't want to look back and see that he'd been preparing the bonfire since he was 12 years old.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 11/12/2008

to quote the lovely George Michael...­"i think I'm done with the sofa...I think I'm done with the hall...I think I'm done with the kitchen table, baby...."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 11/12/2008
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