Banks Promise They Won't Use Bailout Money For Pay

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JOHN DUNBAR | November 13, 2008 05:20 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more loans and help financially strapped homeowners avoid foreclosure.

Barry L. Zubrow, chief risk officer with JP Morgan Chase & Co., told the Senate Banking Committee that a portion of the $25 billion capital infusion it received from the Treasury Department was being deployed to "expand the flow of credit" and to assist with rewriting residential mortgages for up to 400,000 families.

Zubrow and executives with Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Bank of America Corp. and Wells Fargo & Co. told the committee that none of the $75 billion they have received collectively from the government is being used to pay salaries or bonuses.

"The committee has asked whether (bailout) funds would be spent on executive compensation," said Jon Campbell, regional banking president for Wells Fargo & Co. in his testimony. "The answer is no. Wells Fargo doesn't need the government investment to pay for bonuses or compensation."

Some of the executives said bonuses this year will be lower because of the economic downturn.

"Employee compensation will be dramatically affected by changes in the overall economic and financial environment and our performance for the full year, but it certainly will not increase as a result of receiving TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) funds," said Gregory Palm, general counsel for Goldman Sachs.

Bank of America's board has decided that this year's bonus compensation pool will be reduced by more than 50 percent, Anne Finucane, a marketing and corporate affairs executive, told the committee.

Finucane said Bank of America originated more than $50 billion in mortgage loans in the third quarter of 2008 but acknowledged that "we are lending less than we were a year ago."

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Campbell said Wells Fargo's commercial real estate loans are 37 percent above a year ago.

Despite the reassuring words, lawmakers pressed hard for commitments to more lending.

"Let me say as clearly as I can," said committee chairman Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn. "Hoarding capital and acquiring healthy banks are not _ I repeat are not _ reasons why Congress authorized $700 billion in emergency funding."

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said he and other lawmakers are looking at requiring banks to make more loans as a condition for taking part in the $350 billion second half of the bailout. Congress can block release of the second $350 billion. It also can rewrite the law to put new conditions on its use.

"Any new capital injections must come with tougher requirements," he said.

Treasury already has lent or committed $290 billion of the first half. Democrats are working on a bill they hope to pass next week that would devote another $25 billion to the beleaguered auto industry, with the specific intent of helping General Motors Corp. avoid bankruptcy.

The banking executives also were questioned about using bailout money to acquire other banks.

Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, noted that Cleveland-based National City Bank was denied Treasury funds, only to be taken over by PNC Financial Services Group Inc. of Pittsburgh on the same day that PNC was approved for $7.7 billion in bailout money.

"The taxpayer funds that would have been allocated to National City were instead allotted to PNC," Brown said.

The executives said their banks have no new acquisitions planned beyond the spate of mergers that occurred before Congress passed the bailout bill.

WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more ...
WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more ...
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- plages I'm a Fan of plages 18 fans permalink

This nation is broken, broke, and these bankers are like a broken record! Food for thought. Remember when AIG spent some ~$400,000 on a spa in California with some of our tax loaned cash, and again recently at another spa, threw down another ~$350,000 for another yippee moment, all the while laughing their heads off at US, as no one is responsible for any of their pirate actions! The courts are on their side, and they're not done stealing from US! And the WAR(s) go on, filling the pockets of the filthy bankers! Pissed off, you bet!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 11/13/2008
- artistcain I'm a Fan of artistcain 24 fans permalink
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If my math is correct we could give $25,000 dollars a year for 5 years to every taxpayer and legitimate social security card holder in this county for a total of $300 hundred Billion dollars which would do a lot more for people’s confidence in the system. We could stream it so that part went to mortgages or rent, part went to consumer goods and part went to savings all of which would end up in the wide system instead of what we have now the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class disappears.

Replacing good living wages with cheap labor and creating a smoke and mirrors here’s a credit card to keep you happy economy is a scam. Even Henry Ford I’m sure a conservative realized you have to pay a decent salary to workers if you are to have consumers. The obscene compensation that CEO are getting is criminal more like the days of Rome or the aristocracy of France before the revolution and then a few heads came off. I hear some of these talking heads on T.V. saying that these ceo’s work hard for their money well I’ll tell you what, the guy who picks up your garbage or the nurse who changes your bed pan or the waiter who serves you a meal works just as hard but in a different way and doesn’t have the inside information or contacts to make what I call something for nothing money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 11/13/2008

"Bailout Blues"

So let's assume that it's true
what is Main St. to do
when the talking heads for 10 years
they've been lying to you
you either are or ain't stooopid
that's up to you to prove
they cried wolf (blitzer)
one too many times
with their bailout blooooz

http://www.joelmooreusa.com/bailoutblooz

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 11/13/2008
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And if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

I have been thinking a lot about this meltdown of our economy and the huge bailout that the administration pushed through. The conclusion I have come to is that it is entirely manufactured. The people controlling our economy knew that Obama was going to be elected, so they tanked the economy by refusing to negotiate new terms with people who were defaulting on the hinky loans they had gotten. They did this, with the knowledge of the Bush Administration so he could push through the 700 billion giveaway to the financial industry as a parting gift from the Bush Crime Family.

I hope that Obama hires some excellent forensic accountants to investigate the whole situation and prosecute the people who manipulated our financial system to cause the meltdown.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 11/13/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 313 fans permalink

The loans were bundled and even divided across instruments and sold over and over again. Your bank or mortage company does not hold your loan, they just service it. Your payment may then be distrubted to many people each holding a portion of your loan. The idea was to spread the risk. it did. The Bank does not have the power to renegotiate and there is no one person to go to ask for such said permission. It spread the risk ,yes.. but left the loan originator with no risk.. so they wrote bad loans , got a commission and no possibility of a loss hurting them.

Regards

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 11/13/2008
- sixx I'm a Fan of sixx 13 fans permalink
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Banks Promise They Won't Use Bailout Money For Pay

Then why are they? Or are perks and bonuses excluded?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 11/13/2008
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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If there is NO OVERSIGHT how does ANYONE know where OUR money is going!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 11/13/2008
- dagnew I'm a Fan of dagnew 21 fans permalink

I've said this before.....WHAT A MESS!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 11/13/2008
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 90 fans permalink

Look if we all were looking forward to a stark retirement, we might pull the same stuff... The oldest story in the world is that temptation works, see adam and eve and the apple..

When the economy was clocking along in the 50s, the top rate was 91% and the bosses didn't get so greedy then,,, it is time to bring that back... Do away with Capital Gains and Dividend rates for incomes over 250 grand....Warren Buffett thinks that is fair....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 11/13/2008
- NWBrunette I'm a Fan of NWBrunette 69 fans permalink

Of course they won't use the bailout money for bonuses. Duh. Not directly. They'll use all their other money for bonuses, and use the bailout money to backfill operations. Double duh. The solution here is to tax any company receiving bailout money that pays executives any excessive amount an extremely high marginal high tax rate. Guess what? No excessive bonuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 11/13/2008
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Why on earth should we trust these greedy people anyway?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 11/13/2008
- NWBrunette I'm a Fan of NWBrunette 69 fans permalink

Trust greed? Seems like a pretty oxymoronic idea to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 11/13/2008
- one4obama I'm a Fan of one4obama 11 fans permalink

With some of the money already going out without any accountability - and who is to say there will be stringent accountability in the near future - how will we, the public, know whether or not any of this money will go for pay/bonuses?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 11/13/2008
- NWBrunette I'm a Fan of NWBrunette 69 fans permalink

Corporate executives at failed companies staring at billions in free money and someone's wondering HOW we will know? I'm thinking things like life experience, remembering about human nature and the corrosive effects of unbridled greed - those might have some bearing on helping us know for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 11/13/2008
- dcree77 I'm a Fan of dcree77 3 fans permalink

By focusing on what they actually said you get a sense of what they intend. They said, "we won't use the TARP ("bailout") funds to pay bonuses." They did not say they would not be paying bonuses. In fact, they said they still plan to pay bonuses, they simply said the bonuses will be smaller than in recent years in light of the condition of the economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 11/13/2008
- killpack I'm a Fan of killpack 4 fans permalink

Don't believe it people. Every one of you needs to call or write your Congressmen NOW and demand these bailouts stop. I just did myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 11/13/2008
- NWBrunette I'm a Fan of NWBrunette 69 fans permalink

Thank you! You are my hero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 11/13/2008
- OB-GYN I'm a Fan of OB-GYN 63 fans permalink
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Wrote Pelosi, Reid, Obama, my three congressmen, and even Bush. All the same message. Stop. Rethink. Accountability. Transparency, No bonuses, golden parachutes and dividends.

I worked thirty years putting hard earned money in my retirement, savings, minding my ways for my family. Now the second great Wall Street-induced depression takes away a good chunk. I know, I took the risk, I take the hit. Hey, so did many others. In fact our government encouraged individual risk by switching from employer sponsored to employee owned retirement strategy. Thank God Bush failed at convincing us about social security retirement management accounts.

If Congress ever thought they would somehow curtail Social Security payments (advance the age limit, limit the payments, increase the tax) to we who just saw our retirements go up in smoke, they will miserably fail. On this I am sure, older Americans will not allow themselves to take a second hit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 11/13/2008
- blueshield I'm a Fan of blueshield 87 fans permalink

We will not use the $75 billion from taxpayers for compensation. We're going to keep that money safe in our vaults, just as soon as we make room by taking $75 billion out to pay ourselves compensation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 11/13/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 612 fans permalink
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No oversight. Just trust them. They're good people.

Signed: Republicans and Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 11/13/2008
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THEN WHOS GONNA PAY FOR YOUR EXPENSIVE LIFESTYLE THAT U FEEL ENTITLED 2?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 11/13/2008
- nikky I'm a Fan of nikky 8 fans permalink

these people have been stealing money for eight years this is their last hooraw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 11/13/2008
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Don't be so sure...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 11/13/2008
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