Banks Promise They Won't Use Bailout Money For Pay

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JOHN DUNBAR | November 13, 2008 05:20 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more loans and help financially strapped homeowners avoid foreclosure.

Barry L. Zubrow, chief risk officer with JP Morgan Chase & Co., told the Senate Banking Committee that a portion of the $25 billion capital infusion it received from the Treasury Department was being deployed to "expand the flow of credit" and to assist with rewriting residential mortgages for up to 400,000 families.

Zubrow and executives with Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Bank of America Corp. and Wells Fargo & Co. told the committee that none of the $75 billion they have received collectively from the government is being used to pay salaries or bonuses.

"The committee has asked whether (bailout) funds would be spent on executive compensation," said Jon Campbell, regional banking president for Wells Fargo & Co. in his testimony. "The answer is no. Wells Fargo doesn't need the government investment to pay for bonuses or compensation."

Some of the executives said bonuses this year will be lower because of the economic downturn.

"Employee compensation will be dramatically affected by changes in the overall economic and financial environment and our performance for the full year, but it certainly will not increase as a result of receiving TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) funds," said Gregory Palm, general counsel for Goldman Sachs.

Bank of America's board has decided that this year's bonus compensation pool will be reduced by more than 50 percent, Anne Finucane, a marketing and corporate affairs executive, told the committee.

Finucane said Bank of America originated more than $50 billion in mortgage loans in the third quarter of 2008 but acknowledged that "we are lending less than we were a year ago."

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Campbell said Wells Fargo's commercial real estate loans are 37 percent above a year ago.

Despite the reassuring words, lawmakers pressed hard for commitments to more lending.

"Let me say as clearly as I can," said committee chairman Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn. "Hoarding capital and acquiring healthy banks are not _ I repeat are not _ reasons why Congress authorized $700 billion in emergency funding."

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said he and other lawmakers are looking at requiring banks to make more loans as a condition for taking part in the $350 billion second half of the bailout. Congress can block release of the second $350 billion. It also can rewrite the law to put new conditions on its use.

"Any new capital injections must come with tougher requirements," he said.

Treasury already has lent or committed $290 billion of the first half. Democrats are working on a bill they hope to pass next week that would devote another $25 billion to the beleaguered auto industry, with the specific intent of helping General Motors Corp. avoid bankruptcy.

The banking executives also were questioned about using bailout money to acquire other banks.

Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, noted that Cleveland-based National City Bank was denied Treasury funds, only to be taken over by PNC Financial Services Group Inc. of Pittsburgh on the same day that PNC was approved for $7.7 billion in bailout money.

"The taxpayer funds that would have been allocated to National City were instead allotted to PNC," Brown said.

The executives said their banks have no new acquisitions planned beyond the spate of mergers that occurred before Congress passed the bailout bill.

WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more ...
WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more ...
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- dizmo4 I'm a Fan of dizmo4 47 fans permalink

So what exactly happens if the banks go ahead and use the $700 bn for bonuses, dividends, etc?

Does the government sue to get the money back? Thats not an option because if the banks are forced to pay back that money, they'll be in the exact same spot they were before the bail out.

Does the government go after individuals and force them to repay ever penny of the bonuses/co­mpensatoin they received from their employers?

I highly doubt US law allows for such creative lawsuits for essentially no wrong doing.

The government might just as well have just burned it. Its gone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 11/13/2008

Ultimately, the only way to get the public's money returned is to institute HIGH INCOME TAX rates on the stratospheric brackets (over $1 million/yr­.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 11/13/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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"I promise I won't eat any hens" said the fox in the hen house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 11/13/2008
- HockeyMom I'm a Fan of HockeyMom 3 fans permalink

Please carry me to the other side of the river begged the snake.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 11/13/2008
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Woooo-hooooo that smell....c­an't 'cha smell that smell.....­.smell is all around you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 11/13/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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Whiskey bottles...­.......bra­nd new cars......­...oak tree yer in my way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 11/13/2008
- TeeLolly I'm a Fan of TeeLolly 48 fans permalink

No bank or other institution or corporation should get a dime until they have taken back the huge compensation packages paid to the bozos who ran their respective companies into the ground. The top execs clearly did not deserve the level of compensation they received--had they been up to the job, they would have averted the failures. This is not rocket science. That they continue the junkets and bonuses while receiving bailout funds is also not rocket science. Anyone can set aside money for a pet project (more executive compensation), get the handout to cover other obligations, and then spend what was set aside on the pet project.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 11/13/2008
- TheOpus I'm a Fan of TheOpus 4 fans permalink

Joe the Bailout. freakin socialist.­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 11/13/2008
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and this time we mean it, we promise!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 11/13/2008
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We are CHUMPS!
They are like all my Republican friends who HATE folks on the dole UNTIL it's one of theirs then all they say is "Well that's why I pay taxes".
As if their loved ones are deserving BUT no one elses are.
We are CHUMPS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 11/13/2008
- bbbear I'm a Fan of bbbear 23 fans permalink
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You're right. We are Chumps. And we're afloat in a leaky boat in a stormy sea, and no one's at the helm. Once again our spineless, bought and paid for senators and representatives took the bait hook line and sinker. We haven't yet invaded another country, but the so-called "bailout" will probably cost trillions more than both wars put together. To compound their error, our Big Money owned congress gave Paulson total control over billions of tax payer dollars and none of them seem to have a clue how it's being used. The idiocracy or as some call it, the main stream media, are churning out rumors as fast as they can type, and nearly all of them want us to believe they've suddenly morphed into "economist­s." Still, the present, very opaque deal is the mother of most, if not all of the inane speculation, which causes rumors and a further loss of confidence in the market and those who are supposedly "fixing" it. It's the catch 22 of the 21st century...­.

Hey, is there any possibility that Obama can take the helm two months before Jan 20th 2009?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 11/13/2008
- OB-GYN I'm a Fan of OB-GYN 46 fans permalink
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Someone answered the Obama early at the helm question, and the answer was no, not without changing the Constitution.

Now, since we all know we are chumps, but don't want to be chumps, what are we going to do about it?

How about a HuffPo rally in Washington: take it to the streets of Congress and the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 11/13/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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If these banks take billions in Tax Payer money to remain solvent, then all monies must be Fungible..­!

Simple as that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 11/13/2008
- Village I'm a Fan of Village 7 fans permalink

Well I know I feel better.

This is just another Bush crime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 11/13/2008

Um, if anyone in these banks is getting compensated and if any dividends are being paid, we are paying for it. Money is fungible. We are not morons. These guys have got to stop trying to lie to us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/13/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 37 fans permalink

think they have there family on payroll

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/13/2008
- Ohg I'm a Fan of Ohg 5 fans permalink

Trust God, but lock your car. ..........­..........­.

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/11/07/trust-god-but-lock-your-car/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 11/13/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 37 fans permalink

even thats not safe.they can still repo it lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 11/13/2008
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Banks Promise They Won't Use Bailout Money For Pay

ROFLMAO!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 11/13/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 37 fans permalink

wonder if they have there wives ,or kids on payroll?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 11/13/2008

They should be required to show the loans they intend to make and have the paperwork for BEFORE they get the money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 11/13/2008
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