Banks Promise They Won't Use Bailout Money For Pay

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JOHN DUNBAR | November 13, 2008 05:20 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more loans and help financially strapped homeowners avoid foreclosure.

Barry L. Zubrow, chief risk officer with JP Morgan Chase & Co., told the Senate Banking Committee that a portion of the $25 billion capital infusion it received from the Treasury Department was being deployed to "expand the flow of credit" and to assist with rewriting residential mortgages for up to 400,000 families.

Zubrow and executives with Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Bank of America Corp. and Wells Fargo & Co. told the committee that none of the $75 billion they have received collectively from the government is being used to pay salaries or bonuses.

"The committee has asked whether (bailout) funds would be spent on executive compensation," said Jon Campbell, regional banking president for Wells Fargo & Co. in his testimony. "The answer is no. Wells Fargo doesn't need the government investment to pay for bonuses or compensation."

Some of the executives said bonuses this year will be lower because of the economic downturn.

"Employee compensation will be dramatically affected by changes in the overall economic and financial environment and our performance for the full year, but it certainly will not increase as a result of receiving TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) funds," said Gregory Palm, general counsel for Goldman Sachs.

Bank of America's board has decided that this year's bonus compensation pool will be reduced by more than 50 percent, Anne Finucane, a marketing and corporate affairs executive, told the committee.

Finucane said Bank of America originated more than $50 billion in mortgage loans in the third quarter of 2008 but acknowledged that "we are lending less than we were a year ago."

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Campbell said Wells Fargo's commercial real estate loans are 37 percent above a year ago.

Despite the reassuring words, lawmakers pressed hard for commitments to more lending.

"Let me say as clearly as I can," said committee chairman Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn. "Hoarding capital and acquiring healthy banks are not _ I repeat are not _ reasons why Congress authorized $700 billion in emergency funding."

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said he and other lawmakers are looking at requiring banks to make more loans as a condition for taking part in the $350 billion second half of the bailout. Congress can block release of the second $350 billion. It also can rewrite the law to put new conditions on its use.

"Any new capital injections must come with tougher requirements," he said.

Treasury already has lent or committed $290 billion of the first half. Democrats are working on a bill they hope to pass next week that would devote another $25 billion to the beleaguered auto industry, with the specific intent of helping General Motors Corp. avoid bankruptcy.

The banking executives also were questioned about using bailout money to acquire other banks.

Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, noted that Cleveland-based National City Bank was denied Treasury funds, only to be taken over by PNC Financial Services Group Inc. of Pittsburgh on the same day that PNC was approved for $7.7 billion in bailout money.

"The taxpayer funds that would have been allocated to National City were instead allotted to PNC," Brown said.

The executives said their banks have no new acquisitions planned beyond the spate of mergers that occurred before Congress passed the bailout bill.

WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more ...
WASHINGTON — Some of the nation's largest banks sharing in the $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry tried to assure lawmakers Thursday they are using the money to make more ...
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yo government I have a bank i need a bail out for "Fred's Bank"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 11/13/2008

I think many people suspected that the banks were just going to use the bailout money for bonuses and exec comp before the vote. Now the interesting thing will be how Congress responds to the reality.

Are they going to play along with the high tech version of hide the ball that the banks are playing or will they try to micromanage the banks with greater restrictions or will they tell them to kiss that next 350 billion goodbye?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 11/13/2008
- SFkid I'm a Fan of SFkid 5 fans permalink

Maybe I should use my own taxes to give myself a bonus and pay down my debt instead of giving it my state and fed. government. Sounds reasonable to me, time to bail out myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 11/13/2008
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I'm with you on this one. these thieves have taken enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 11/13/2008
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Trust me!
The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And lots of money to steal before I sleep,
And miles to go before I escape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 11/13/2008

Any business that takes one dollar in bailout money should immediately cancel all bonuses of all kinds for all employees.

You know it's like so many fake money issues. They will not use that money for pay and bonuses, they'll use that money over there. It's all the banks or investment brokerages money they just designate one pile as bailout money and the other pile as non-bailout money. It's not really different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 11/13/2008
- socalgal38 I'm a Fan of socalgal38 54 fans permalink
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Here is a scary thought, the price of gas and oil is going down! OPEC decides there is too much being pumped out so they cut production. OMG! the price is still going down. The 400 billion quarterly profits should be less next quarter. It's ok the gov will bail out the oil companies on their losses all they have to do is threaten bankruptcy. After all, we the people have free money for the rich so that we can go back to paying 4 or 5 bucks a gallon. We the people should be "we the fed up" by now.

We the poor and middle class are looking for the minimum wage to reflect the cost of living in this country, is that so bad? We work hard follow the rules, do our duties, and still have to pinch every penny we are allowed to keep after taxes just to continue to work hard ect.

The whole bailout plan was a scam and shouldn't be any surprise that given it was in the best interest of Bush Administration to push this threw. The congress has been intimidated by this Administration from the beginning starting with 9/11. It's time to replace this congress with people that are not afraid to do the right thing for the interest in WE THE PEOPLE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 11/13/2008
- proudem I'm a Fan of proudem 14 fans permalink

Ok Congress and Senate....
FIX THIS!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 11/13/2008

Put Glass-Stegal back in place or nationalize the banks. Kick out the federal reserve, and go back on the gold standard. This is all such BullS#it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 11/13/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 11/13/2008
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 74 fans permalink
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How did they manage to get back out the doors considering that their noses have to have grown at least a yard.

They can't hide money for bonuses to the tune of X$ and say it's not from the bailout money. At this point all monies they might still have are from the bailout, one way or another.

Money couldn't have been spent on bonuses if it weren't FOR the bailout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 11/13/2008

LOL, it's all one big pot of money at the end of the day, isn't it?

If I have $500 in the bank and have to either choose to buy groceries or a new TV, I will buy the groceries.

If someone comes along and hands me another $500, I could buy both.

And, of course, if they ask me if I used their money to buy a TV, I would say "No, I used your money for groceries, and used my own money for the TV."

These banks need to make new loans to survive. They need to invest in good debt to try to offset all the bad debt they're holding. Why would they hand out billions of dollars in bonuses at the same time they're demanding billions from taxpayers?

Why not use the bonus money FIRST? Why not use dividend money FIRST? Why are they using taxpayer money first and then paying out dividends and bonuses?

Utterly ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 11/13/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 51 fans permalink

they were under oath .hmmmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 11/13/2008
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And I promise to never use my toenail as a toothpick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 11/13/2008
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 74 fans permalink
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Now that left a nasty taste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 11/13/2008

Bull$j!t…

I have no doubt those Execs will get bonuses.

If they are truly in financial trouble, where is that money coming from? It may not LOOK like the bailout money.

They will just be paying bonuses with “their” money, and then replace that "bonus" money with our tax dollars! Somebody needs to be watching their books closely. Who is going to audit this?

Bonuses are exacly that, a bonus. I understand most of what they get paid is in "insentive" form, buy if that is what they are counting on...they simply need to re-structure executive pay.

I'm sorry, if the company recives $3billion in tax "bailout" $$ - That is $3billion less they should pay out in bonuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 11/13/2008

You Gotta be s#itting me. Oh yes-I believe them. LMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 11/13/2008
- Figerre I'm a Fan of Figerre 8 fans permalink

could we have that in writing, please? Promise, huh? That doesn't work for consumer loans, why would it work for the banks? where is our pound of flesh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 11/13/2008
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