Former News Director Spills 'Secrets Of Talk Radio'

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November 14, 2008 10:58 AM


As a follow-up to yesterday's post on the state of right-wing radio, an emailer points me in the direction of an article in Milwaukee Magazine by Dan Shelley, entitled "Secrets of Talk Radio." Shelley, a former news director of WTMJ in Milwaukee, offers up a chapter-and-verse rundown on what makes the shows tick, and what makes their hosts successful. Naturally, a big part of what attracts an audience is activating and maintaining a strident sense of victimhood among listeners. Similarly, a big part of the success of talk radio, in terms of electoral and policy outcomes, is extensive collaboration with the Republican party to tailor the daily message along the lines of current party talking points.

The most interesting aspect of the article is the technique by which the talk radio mavens succeed in maintaining credibility whilst supporting discreditable arguments. It all sort of boils down to some high concept stat-juking:

Unlike Stephen Colbert, they avoid engaging the formidable opponent:

Opponents are far more likely to get through when the producer is confident Charlie can use the dissenting caller to reinforce his original point. Ask former Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Publisher Keith Spore, or former Police Chief Arthur Jones. How can Charlie do that? By belittling the caller's point of view. You can always tell, however, when the antagonist has gotten the better of Charlie. That's when he starts attacking the caller personally.


But the worst fate comes for those who ignore Charlie when he asks on the air why they did or didn't do something, and they never respond. That leaves him free to make his point unabated, day after day. The most frequent victims of this were Journal Sentinel Editor Marty Kaiser and Managing Editor George Stanley.

Charlie knew they would rarely call or e-mail to answer his criticism, so he could both criticize decisions they had made and blast them for not having the guts to come on his show and respond. What little credibility they had among Charlie's audience would decline by a thousand cuts.

Maximize marginal differences with conservative orthodoxy to create the illusion of "independence," while keeping significant differences of opinion under wraps:

A smart talk show host will, from time to time, disagree publicly with a Republican president, the Republican Party, or some conservative doctrine. (President Bush's disastrous choice of Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court was one such example.) But these disagreements are strategically chosen to prove the host is an independent thinker, without appreciably harming the president or party. This is not to suggest that hosts don't genuinely disagree with the conservative line at times. They do, more often than you might think. But they usually keep it to themselves.

Where progressive media is willing to take a flier on a long-shot or a lost-cause, the conservative blathersphere doesn't dare risk it:

Except in presidential elections, when they will always carry water for the Republican nominee, conservative hosts won't hurt their credibility by backing candidates they think can't win. So if they're uncharacteristically tepid, or even silent, about a particular race, that means the Democrat has a good chance of winning. Nor will hosts spend their credibility on an issue where they know they disagree with listeners. Charlie, for example, told me just before I left TMJ that Wisconsin's 2006 anti-gay marriage amendment was misguided. But he knew his followers would likely vote for it in droves. So he declined to speak out directly against it.

The whole article is a great read, filled with some fascinating insider anecdotes and a fuller look at the strategy of right-wing talk radio, so check it out. The article is, by my estimation, fair and straight-laced and not mean-spirited at all. Still, that didn't prevent WTMJ from issuing an aggrieved response:

We are surprised and saddened that a former employee, who worked with us for ten years, would choose to attack our talk shows hosts and company in this manner. Neither the station nor our hosts were offered a chance to comment on the claims made by the author. Newsradio 620 WTMJ stands by Charlie Sykes and Jeff Wagner and will continue to give their listeners the opportunity to share and participate in the best local talk programming in Milwaukee.

It's all part of the game.

As a follow-up to yesterday's post on the state of right-wing radio, an emailer points me in the direction of an article in Milwaukee Magazine by Dan Shelley, entitled "Secrets of Talk Radio." Shelley...
As a follow-up to yesterday's post on the state of right-wing radio, an emailer points me in the direction of an article in Milwaukee Magazine by Dan Shelley, entitled "Secrets of Talk Radio." Shelley...
 
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As numerous posters have said, this shouldn't be a surprise. If I had control over this particular meidum, I'd do the same thing too. But even still I could an objectively better job at spinning information and framing issues than most of these individuals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 11/19/2008

Is this an actual surprise to anyone with a brain?

Don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 11/15/2008

The limbaugh schick so low on the intelligence scale, it is amazing that it has fooled the people this long. In my opinion, to be one of these "talk show hosts" is one of the lowest jobs available to mankind. It is a form of anti-education in that its' point is to make people stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 11/15/2008

yeah, but they make a lot of money doing it, and that's the bottom line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 11/21/2008

What a crock! Secrets of Talk Radio?
So where's the memo? I've never received one.
Mix a portion of common sense & humor in with your ideology and don't let guests or callers go unchecked when they enter spin cycle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 11/15/2008

secret 1 - get a bunch of ignoramuses to think your lies are "common sense"
guess it worked on you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 11/15/2008

I wouldn't give a bucket of pi&& for Limbaugh's future when a new FCC Chairman is appointed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 11/15/2008

are you kidding? look how he fared under clinton

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 11/15/2008

Maverickiness 101

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 11/15/2008

no surprise the cons rule AM radio while the liberals and progressives rule the net
ya can't fact check AM radio while driving your pickup

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 11/15/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN permalink

Valentine in TN said the other day that if the fairness doctrine comes back, his show will be off the air. I'm sure his loyal fear lovers thought, how unfair. I thought, well it's because you are not fair.

During the 2004 election, I heard him say that Mohammed Otto, who attacked the world trade center, was in Iraq so he was obviously working with/for Suddam Hussain. I'm thinking, well he was also in the US learning how to fly planes in Florida. Does that mean that GW was working with/for him?

Their listeners lack the ability tand the desire to question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 11/15/2008
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If I might, I think I can sum up right wing radio in three words:

Spew. Bully. Lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 11/14/2008
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Here's all you need to know about CONservative radio: hate-sells.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 11/14/2008
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It is Brainwashing! I'm sure if some scientists hooked people up to monitors and measured vitals before during and after a "session" of Hate and Propaganda, there would be some amazing physiological results.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 11/14/2008

YESSSS!!!!

Wedge issues,, frustrations,,,, and not an ounce of clear, careful deliberate consideration of issues.

THE Republican BASE!

It may win elections,, but is this method,,,, in any way GOOD for America???

Good for the Republican Party?

Nope,, nope,, nope,,, shaking head,, Uh Aha,,,No way,,, NOT GOOD!

JMO



All the best

Knute

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 11/14/2008
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it is time to hit 'em where it hurts. I'd like to see an organized database of the advertisers on these shows and a massive boycott.

Here in So. Cal. we are in the process of building massive boycott of the businesses who funded the Prop 8 initiative.

Money Talks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 11/14/2008

I agree Kellygirrrl,

Especially when their oppositions are demonstrably false, as was the case with the FEAR generated by those against Prop 8.

I watch FOX simply to hear what,,, Civil Liberty,,, the Radical Right Extremists will be attacking next. AS A WARNING!

I do however, keep a pad near my table to write the name of advertisers is will NEVER BUY FROM AGAIN.

Good Post!

Good Ideas!

All the best

Knute

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 11/14/2008
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are you related to that adorable little polar bear? :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 11/14/2008

I have ..I contacted the folks at sleep number mattress, oreck vacuum cleaners and some lumber company that were listed as advertisers of limbaugh they sent me back a curt little email saying they just by time on shows based on listener numbers blah blah blah.

By all neans contact the sleep number folks and oreck and voice your displeasure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 11/14/2008

Tell us who we need to boycott and I'm right there with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 11/15/2008

me too.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 11/21/2008

Ummm ??

Hello!!!! No Duh!

And the part of the brain that these Limbaugh, O"Reilly and Hannity, types hate and fear merchants tap into within the Dittohead brains is nearly,,, if not PURELY,,,,,, SEXUAL.

Now,, now,,,, don"t spit out your coffee,, please hear me out.

We know and it is often said there is a fine line between love and hate, pain and pleasure. Let"s not freak here, but rather THINK.

Let me share an example:

Some MALE friends of mine and I were questioning how the act of rape was even possible. Every one of us,,, to the man,,,, concurred that the LAST thing on our minds, when we were upset or angry was, sex. Not to be indelicate,,, but we were just perplexed as to the HOW of things. Strictly a mater of Equipment Malfunctioning.

NOW we do know that Rape happens, it EXISTS as an abhorrent behavior,,,, for SOME.

Our conclusion,,, these other fellows find aggression sexually stimulating. There is something amiss in their brains or inside out thinking.

Think back to the Palin rallies,,, Think about all the Fired up Hate filled,,, near lusting for blood,,, we saw in the crowd. What the hell was that all about? Skinheads, Neo-Nazis, Racists and just fearful folks all fired up.

Reactionary People!

Fires fanned DEEP within,,,,, The Lizard Brain!

America Civility? NOPE!

JMO

All the best

Knute

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 11/14/2008

more like snake brain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 11/14/2008

Rush and Hannity made a fortune exploiting the stupidity of some people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 11/14/2008

so did P.T. Barnum incidentally

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 11/15/2008

Yeah, but do they like who they see in the mirror, and do they sleep well at night?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 11/15/2008

It's amazing that blowhard Limbaugh's audience doesn't get why he calls them "dittoheads". It is the victimhood that is key. Look at Sarah Palin's "Joe Sixpack" and "Joe the Plumber"- like the elites are against the common man, when the truth is the Republicans serving the interests of corporations and special interests that is working against the common man. The Republican base likes to be angry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 11/14/2008
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