Phoenix, Philadelphia, Atlanta Mayors Want Share Of The Bailout

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CHRIS SUNDHEIM | November 14, 2008 10:32 PM EST | AP

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The Philadelphia skyline is seen in a In a Monday, June 16, 2008 file photo taken from Camden, New Jersey. The mayors of Philadelphia, Atlanta and Phoenix asked the federal government Friday, Nov. 14, 2008, to use a portion of the $700 billion financial bailout to assist struggling cities. (AP Photo/Tom Mihale, File)

Mayors of three cities hit hardest by the economic crisis _ Philadelphia, Atlanta and Phoenix _ asked the federal government Friday for a piece of the $700 billion bailout package, saying they need help just like financial institutions.

Mayor Michael Nutter of Philadelphia said he wants "to make sure that cities and metro areas are at the table, that their voices are being heard, that our challenges and problems are well understood, so that we can get relief."

The mayors proposed providing loans to help cities pay pension costs. They also want $50 billion in loans for infrastructure investments and additional one-year loans to cities that are unable to borrow cash because of tight credit markets.

"The future prosperity of this country is tied directly to our ability to provide basic services and quality infrastructure to our citizens," Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin wrote in a letter to Rep. Charles Rangel, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. "We are at serious risk in failing in that most basic public responsibility."

President-elect Barack Obama has also called for some sort of aid to state and local governments so they do not have to raise taxes or lay off workers while the federal government tries to revive the economy. But he has not proposed or endorsed a specific plan.

In Atlanta, an expected budget shortfall of $50 million to $60 million means that 4,600 city employees will have their weekly hours and pay cut by 10 percent. The city has also adopted a hiring freeze for most agencies and dipped into its reserves for $12 million.

And those were not the first budget cuts. Earlier this year, Atlanta laid off 372 employees, eliminated about 900 jobs and raised some fees.

The mayors made their request in a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.

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Asked about the request, a Treasury spokeswoman referred to Paulson's statement Wednesday that assistance to state and local governments was not the purpose of the bailout funding.

"The focus ... is to stabilize financial institutions and strengthen the financial system, promote lending and so on," Paulson said.

U.S. cities have seen revenue fall 4.3 percent from last year, according to Chris Hoene, director of policy and research at the National League of Cities.

For the first time since 1985, a survey showed that revenue from property, income and sales taxes are all down simultaneously, and widespread cuts in services are likely, he said.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he is open to receiving federal assistance, but he doesn't think it's likely.

"We would certainly love to have our share of it," he told reporters Friday. "Everybody's lining up now. There's no industry that isn't saying 'We need a bailout.' There's no government entity that all of a sudden isn't saying 'We need a bailout.'"

Other cities such as Dallas and Wilmington, Del., hope to obtain help from a separate assistance package being promoted by the U.S. Conference of Mayors. Congressional leaders plan to push for a second round of economic-stimulus measures in a lame-duck session next week.

In Lexington, Ky., officials would like $125 million to hire more police and make improvements to a wastewater treatment plant, the airport and the city's downtown.

"These aren't luxury items," Mayor Jim Newberry said. "These requests represent pent-up needs for the basics."

In San Jose, Calif., Mayor Chuck Reed initially said Friday that he planned to request his city's "fair share" of the bailout package _ 2 percent, or $14 billion _ to pay for mass transit improvements and expansion of the area's clean-technology businesses. He reversed course later in the day, saying he wouldn't request the bailout money at this point.

In Philadelphia, the city pension system lost more than $650 million in the first nine months of the year.

Last week, Nutter announced the city would lay off municipal employees, cut salaries, close most of its swimming pools and shut nearly a dozen library branches to cope with a $108 million shortfall this year caused by declining business and real estate tax revenue. The deficit could grow to $1 billion over five years, he said.

Phoenix's budget deficit is at least $200 million and could reach $250 million by June if tax revenues keep sliding. That figure represents up to 22 percent of the city's $1.2 billion general fund, which pays for most city services.

City officials say the cuts will affect every department. Phoenix will probably reduce hours at libraries, community centers and public pools and cut bus routes, among dozens of other actions.

If the government agrees to help, Phoenix could use the money to build new police and fire stations, water-treatment plants and extensions to a new light rail network.

"We're going to have to do this in order to keep our city growing and healthy and safe," Mayor Phil Gordon said.

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Associated Press writers Kimberly Hefling in Washington, Sara Kugler in New York, Chris Kahn in Phoenix and Jason Dearen in San Francisco contributed to this report.

Mayors of three cities hit hardest by the economic crisis _ Philadelphia, Atlanta and Phoenix _ asked the federal government Friday for a piece of the $700 billion bailout package, saying they need he...
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Better way of saying - if only a few can have the most of the economic pie regardless of the contributions of all...then the population of this country will have to be reduced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 11/14/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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You first...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 11/14/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 52 fans permalink
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NO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 11/14/2008
- Ray46 I'm a Fan of Ray46 5 fans permalink

I think I will form a holding company with my neighbors and then apply for a government bailout.

Won.t tell them the holding company nothing but a hold onto what you have and bilk the government for all it's worth club.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/14/2008

That's pretty much how these cats play the game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 11/14/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 162 fans permalink

Prez Bush is paid $400,000 per year as president, and will receive a presidential pension of around $190,000 a year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/14/2008
- MossyOak I'm a Fan of MossyOak 63 fans permalink
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That'll just about cover his prescription costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 11/14/2008

that's pennies
here in california the entire University of California has administrators paid way more than that
and they have zero interest home loans for some

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 11/14/2008

The population continues to increase.
The economic growth continues to go into fewer and fewer hands - at national, state and local levels.

Either you continue to give tax breaks to the rich only or you reduce the population.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 11/14/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Sure. Let's keep waiting another few decades for some "trickle."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/14/2008
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Something trickles all right, but it ain't money...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 11/14/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 342 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 11/14/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Heh. One for duhbya as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 11/14/2008
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It's a start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 11/14/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 357 fans permalink
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You need to do more with Paulson than zip his lip. It's time to separate him from those funds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/14/2008
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You can thank all the corporations that have stabbed competition in the heart. They have merged and bought out to the point that they are bloated and obsolete and do not serve consumers or the inhabitants of this planet.

When they fail, and they have no incentive not to, then we bail them out and they just tighten the circle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 11/14/2008

That's a good point. Unfettered merging has k*lled competition, so there's no market incentive to do anything other than squeeze out all the profit you can, sell out, and cash in.

Time for some good old-fashioned TR trustbusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 11/14/2008
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The growth of mergers is a direct result of deregulation, which promotes monopoly.

That's one reason Republicans like to deregulate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/14/2008
- MossyOak I'm a Fan of MossyOak 63 fans permalink
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What ever happened to our anti-trust laws? Last time I remember they invoked them was when Whole Foods wanted to buy Wild Oats. Now there's a scary scenario! You certainly don't want to stifle competition in the critical market segment of organic food!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 11/14/2008

what about the rest of the cities, towns and rivers...aren't there people living in rivers now? oh and the moon...we should bail out some interplanetary life too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 11/14/2008
- Chicago48 I'm a Fan of Chicago48 13 fans permalink

The bailout won't put a dent into the city's problems. The city's have long-standing agreements for pensions and health care to former workers. It's only going to get worse for them unless they rewrite the pension and health care agreements for retirees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 11/14/2008

How many hands will be in this cookie jar? Will 700 billion go far enough to cover all the "needs"?
Will there ever be a full accounting--made public? Can someone "explain this to me like I am a six year old?" Will anyone ever be held responsible?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 11/14/2008
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"Will anyone ever be held responsible?"

Nope.
Being held responsible implies someone did something wrong. "Wrong" is a judgement call, and making judgements about other people is wrong. And mean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 11/14/2008
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Civilized society came about largely because of a shared belief in a sense of right and wrong. Sooner or later, we're going to have to be civilized again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 11/14/2008

foreskin : " Wrong " is a broken law, and some will be held accountable.

( You Rethugs really love that ' zero accountability ' schtick... )


-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 11/14/2008
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Olbermann refers to this bailout as "Why Daddy Went To Jail". I want to think there will be an accounting, although what's happening to the money right now seems shrouded in secrecy.

I think we should call a halt right now, place a hold on disbursement of any more funds, and do some serious oversight on what's taken place up to now, and any future transactions. This has obviously gone haywire, and everyone knows it. I don't know if we have the power to do that before January, but I'd sure like to see us try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 11/14/2008
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This is a problem. When you give away money to some people, other people want it.

That's our money the gov't is redistributing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 11/14/2008

Newman : :- )


-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/14/2008
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"When you give away money to some people, other people want it."

That's deep Stinky!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 11/14/2008

Send some of the to Harlem... we could use some help around here.
http://grantlingel.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 11/14/2008
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Several posters have suggested the big 3 become ESOPs.

That's not a bad idea.
It would eliminate the "make month end numbers look good" mentality that dominates all activity
And would replace the insurance/oil domination of the board of directors

And it might save my pension. I like it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 11/14/2008

It's a really interesting idea. Makes a ton of sense to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 11/14/2008

Making the month end numbers look good also hurts other industries.

Often given more importance than the overall profitability of a company.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 11/14/2008

i agree it should be explored...but the problem does not lie in american productivity. remember "the fundamentals of the economy are strong"? the only strength right now is the worker. They are producing more efficiently than ever. so even if they had a stake in their performance it may not change bad decision making at the top, which seems to be the real root of the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 11/14/2008
- wesinohio I'm a Fan of wesinohio 42 fans permalink
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That makes sense to me too. I'd like to see Federal loan guarantees to groups of auto company employees to purchase portions of the total existing plant and equipment belonging to the Big 3, and see to it that the current executives are fired, of course, soas to change ownership and control of the industry while preserving employment, improving corporate planning and improving the quality of production. This would let each of the Big 3 go out of business, which is what the market wants them to do, while preserving and improving the entire auto industry and uplifting its employee-owners. This would be better for the markets, better for politics and better for people and communities and would all be done in the context of private property ownership and private enterprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 11/14/2008
- dbrockx I'm a Fan of dbrockx 2 fans permalink

I betcha the GOP, Rush and Sean(Morons) try TO blame Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 11/14/2008

You're late. They already are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 11/14/2008
- rubinoff I'm a Fan of rubinoff 54 fans permalink

Whoaa...looks like the flood gates are open....none of these institutions pass the smell test, they all have their hands open.....> to the right.

So tell me, where do we the responsible people get in line for our piece of the pie?....since Santa Clause has come to town earlier this year...lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 11/14/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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Lard A$$ started on that Monday. Calls it the "Obama Depression".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 11/14/2008
- wesinohio I'm a Fan of wesinohio 42 fans permalink
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I can't believe that there are people who actually believe that. Well, I have met some, but it's still unbelievable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 11/14/2008
- jojojo I'm a Fan of jojojo 11 fans permalink

Big0725 says:

"I've been living in either very nice apartments that cost more than a mortgage or in sh!tty apartments to save up for something decent of my own that didn't cost $300,000 for a 3/2 in a crappy neighborhood.

Where's our prize for being fiscally responsible?"

...no prize for you...

Look, I'm for helping those in need, but not those who were irresponsible. We should require the unions--in detroit and city workers-- to do give-backs, no bonuses for bosses, auto companies to produce 40mpg cars, and mortgage help should go to those who were tricked by lenders. Nobody's gonna lower my monthly bills, i don't think, because i always pay them on time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 11/14/2008

Start at the top with the CEOs and their cronies who looted their companies for fun an profit, and get back to me about the workers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 11/14/2008
- jojojo I'm a Fan of jojojo 11 fans permalink

I agree. Bosses get cuts, too. EVERYbody gets cuts, shareholders as well. Union workers as well.

I happen to belong to a union, am a lifelong liberal Democrat, and voted and canvassed f or Obama. Sometimes unions get too much, and it all caves in. If the business fails because the union has gotten too much and everyone loses their job, what good is that? If my taxes are gonna pay to save GM or Philly, I want the bosses, shareholders and workers to share the burden. After all, I'm sharing the burden with my taxes. In NY, city workers work lots of overtime their last year or two and ensure that their 20-yr pension pay is higher than their base pay while working. Sorry. that's no more right than golden parachutes for CEOs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 11/14/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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Something about a dead fish stinking from the head down!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 11/14/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 306 fans permalink

Stop with the union guys... they have been taking cuts for 30 years. Average union wage is just 14 bucks. If min wage was adjusted for inflation over the last 50 years it would now be over 10 bucks...


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 11/14/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 11/14/2008
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Lets celebrate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 11/14/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 357 fans permalink
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Let's have a pork barbecue!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 11/14/2008

LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 11/14/2008

And, like its Z786, Za786 and Zaff786 ancestors, it was a ranting h0m0phobic meltdown that did it in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 11/14/2008
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Repeated emails didn't hurt, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 11/14/2008
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