Secretary Of State: Would Hillary Want The Job?

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First Posted: 11-14-08 01:48 PM   |   Updated: 12-15-08 05:12 AM

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On Friday, political chatter focused around reports that President-elect Barack Obama is thinking about naming Sen. Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State.

But while much of the talk focused on Obama's reasoning, Clinton has a few decisions to make herself. The New York Democrat is likely already running through a series of calculations, according to two members of the Clinton inner circle who spoke to the Huffington Post.

"She has a passionate network of supporters who are devoted to her. Is she going to shut all of that off? Because once you become a Secretary of State, you don't fundraise," one former aide to Clinton's presidential campaign said. "What happens with your political staff? You're really kind of upending a lot of stuff. It's a huge life change."

The aide noted that while the Senator began her campaign with only a couple-hundred thousand email addresses in her database, she now has "at least three to five million." Indeed, even as her name was being discussed non-stop on cable news channels, Clinton's political action committee sent out a fundraising pitch Friday on behalf of Al Franken, who is still locked in an extended battle with Norm Coleman over a Senate seat in Minnesota.

Among other dilemmas facing Clinton, according to the campaign aide -- who requested anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the situation -- is whether the Secretary of State's role in an Obama administration would be diminished by the large role in foreign affairs that will likely be played by Vice President-elect Joe Biden. In addition, there is the question of whether or not Clinton will want to give up a safe Senate seat for life for a job from which she could be summarily fired without notice.

"Cabinet members serve at the pleasure of the president," the aide said. "Does she want to go from being a First Lady to a major Senator and someone with a big presidential candidacy to someone who could just be fired one day? I don't know."

There are also complicating factors brought to the decision making process by former President Clinton. They include whether or not to reveal donors to his presidential library to the Obama vetting team and the possibility that his international work with the Clinton Global Initiative could conflict with Foggy Bottom's priorities. The campaign aide said that while the Clintons were prepared to submit donor lists to Obama for the vice presidential vetting (which never came), it's an open question as to whether they would similarly eager to do so for the Secretary of State position.

Also unclear is the fate of Hillary Clinton's remaining debt from the presidential campaign, were she to take the post. Would Obama have to commit to putting his own email list to work for Clinton, effectively taking responsibility for that fundraising work while she puts in effort for his administration? On this score, aides were mum.

While agreeing with some of the concerns raised by the campaign aide, a different longtime assistant to Sen. Clinton -- going back to her days as first lady -- said there are nevertheless some strong reasons why Obama might be inclined to make the post worth Clinton's time.

"She is a beloved figure around the world. She has visited over 80 countries, as first lady and senator together," the assistant said. Noting in particular the fact that she learned as first lady how to be effective as a "backdoor diplomat," the former White House assistant said Sen. Clinton actually mastered "a lot of the intricacies of these issues before ever joining the Senate's Armed Services committee. She's tough; she had meetings with some Prime Ministers and Presidents where she had to deliver some blunt messages for us."

And there is one other symbolic reason why Obama might go the extra mile to convince Clinton to come on board, the former assistant said. "He would be choosing a very high ranking woman to be one of the faces of this country all over the world. This is the first woman's name that has come up, by the way, for one of the top four cabinet posts. So she gives him this great political asset. And she and Biden are really tight. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if Obama offered it to her."

If he does, we'll see if Hillary is interested.

On Friday, political chatter focused around reports that President-elect Barack Obama is thinking about naming Sen. Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State. But while much of the talk focused on Ob...
On Friday, political chatter focused around reports that President-elect Barack Obama is thinking about naming Sen. Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State. But while much of the talk focused on Ob...
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IF THEY CAN WORK 2GETHER, WHY CANT THE CLASS OF THE NEW GENERATION?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 11/15/2008
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 60 fans permalink
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Let Hillary first get pass the Obama vetting process which is very unlikely for 'no drama Obama'. The Clintons middle name is 'drama'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 11/15/2008
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Hillary as SOS makes great sense to me. Diversity for Obama's cabinet. Great foreign experience as 1st lady and senator. Proof that Obama is including everyone. Brings in Hillary supporters to his camp. And don't forget, it keeps her out of competition with him.

They are working together. Let them. Let go of all the negative crap. The fight is over. We all won!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 11/15/2008
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 60 fans permalink
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No way, no how, no Hillary for SoS.

With all the clean-up Obama has to do in this country...­he don't need no drama which is what the Clintons bring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 11/15/2008
- Makesense I'm a Fan of Makesense 4 fans permalink

Please select Bill Richardson as your Secretary of State. F Hillary Clinton. She is a neocon on Foreign policy. Voted on an unjust war that has lead to the death of our fellow, innocent Americans and many civillians. Leave her in the senate to work on healthcare. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 11/15/2008
- sandpiper1 I'm a Fan of sandpiper1 13 fans permalink

I am with you Makesense.­..Richards­on has the credentials and knows alot more about FP. Being First Lady does not automatically endow one with FP experience or knowledge.
I am reminded of the statement she made in one debate regarding obliterating Iran..I hardly think the citizens of the Middle East have forgotten that so I don't think she's the best choice.
Secondly most of the leaders she met during her 8 years in the WH are no longer in office.
I don't know that I trust her to follow President Obama's wishes, Hillary is more for Hillary, not country and will probably connive and undermine his objectives to her benefit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 11/15/2008
- reliant1 I'm a Fan of reliant1 24 fans permalink
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Richardson is a much stronger option based on skills alone. Hagel is as well. Kerry is more qualified then Hillary too.

I am hoping there is some Machiavellian game going on...if this is a serious offer then President Obama is showing a weakness - which may be overlooked or excused here but which will be seen as bright as a flare overseas.

This team of rivals meme only goes so far...it cannot ever spill over outside the Cabinet and into the public view. The world has dealt with America and Bush and the ghost of Cheney hovering over every policy. Even the hint of another bi-lateral Presidency will be the last straw for many.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 11/15/2008

Hillary Clinton voted on the war in Iraq based on the mixture of false intelligence and lies propogated by the Bush Administration. It is unfair, and untrue to call her positions on foreign policy neo-conservative (mainly because they are not). Her plan to bring the troops home is actually remarkably similar to Obama's plan; some even view her plan to bring the troops home as more progressive. I suggest you put more time into research before you go off on a fundamentally incorrect arguement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 11/15/2008

Or UN Ambassador. He's a pretty good negotiator. Needs to get rid of the beard though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 11/15/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 178 fans permalink

Bill Richardson as SOS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 11/15/2008
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A week ago statements were made about getting "the best people for the job" in terms of filling government posts, and the Cabinet in particular. The talking heads have now devolved the speculation into a putative Obama "strategy" for containing his supposed adversaries. Why not just discuss the matter intelligently? Is Hillary the best person for this or that job? Maybe, maybe not. To automatically presume that the incoming administration is as petty and juvenile as those speculating mindlessly about it is, at this point, groundless and ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 11/15/2008
- lotuslike I'm a Fan of lotuslike 8 fans permalink

Thank you for injecting intelligence and reason into this conversation!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 11/15/2008
- Fabienne I'm a Fan of Fabienne 31 fans permalink

Let's hope she refuses. That way she will have had her ego injection and will return to New York state, within which, hopefully, the Clinton never-ending soap opera can be contained.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 11/15/2008
- moonshadow I'm a Fan of moonshadow 2 fans permalink

The best part about Hillary as SOS is that it would drive the High Liberals nuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 11/15/2008

And the high right-wingers acorn-nuts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 11/15/2008
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Whew!
For a while there I thought the Clinton haters had gone away. Obama won people, you can move along now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 11/15/2008

No one hates and most everyone remembers Hillary's landing in Bosnia under sniper fire.
she is not the most trusted and quailified for SOS when viewed in this limelight, that she, herself,put forward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 11/15/2008

Get over it!
Obama has sense enough to look to the best and the brightest for his cabinet. If you supported him - trust his decisions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 11/15/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 178 fans permalink

What experience does Hillary really have in foreign policy? Bill, yes, but what has Hillary done on her own?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 11/15/2008
- SF13 I'm a Fan of SF13 11 fans permalink

wow I hate to bring up the issue of competence for SOS but HILLARY HAS ZERO foreign policy experience. Yes she has traveled the world as First Lady having tea and dinner. Sorry she is NOT qualified. Her biggest accomplishment in life has been to marry someone who became President.

What has she done for New York ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 11/15/2008
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

Right off the top of my head I can think of several important "things" she has done for New York. She lobbied and presented a bill to help the 10th Mountain Division in Watertown continue or begin their health coverage. Children in New York have automatic coverage if they need to go to an emergency room; no child is turned away now. But that is why I would be loathe to see her leave the New York Senate slot. She can always be counted on to help her constituents. But please push for Richardson. He's just about the right style for an Obama administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 11/16/2008
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There is a huge role for Hillary in this administration but SOS is a bad fit.

Plus, there is all that questionable stuff with Bill in Dubai, and the little problem that she was wrong on Iraq from day one and never changed her position. Oh, and the "obliterate Iran" comment. Nope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 11/15/2008
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

After reading some of the posts here, many of which have not changed since the primary in regard to their manifest hate and unreal look at Hillary Clinton, I like many Clinton Democrats do not think she should ever subject herself to the kind of target practice the Obamacons.­..and others... will stoop to should Obama's foreign policy ever fail to deliver, and I am sure he is in for some real problems with the rest of world that neither he nor many of his disciples can imagine. She is a great Senator and has many years of public service to this nation ahead of her in some other capacity. Obama can't be trusted to treat her as an equal in governance. Think Joe Biden will also discover that Obama has one loyalty and that is to himself. Richardson will do just fine as SOS. Only those who are willing to give up their own ethical and moral compass will be able to work with Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 11/15/2008
- Fabienne I'm a Fan of Fabienne 31 fans permalink

Why should Obama treat his Secretary of State as an "equal"? Isn't he the one we elected? My opposition to Senator Clinton has nothing to do with Clinton-hating. It has to do with the fact that she has perpetrated and expressed neocon views regarding foreign policy. It also seems like her husband's global initiative would present a conflict of interest. She has been elected to the Senate in New York and it appears she is respected in that position. I do not see why someone who has talked of obliterating another country should be Secretary of State in Obama's administration. I thought he was about something different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 11/15/2008
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

roshni, lotuslike, Fabienne, you merely prove my point: Hillary Clinton does not need to have to deal with such attitudes. She has much more to give this nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 11/16/2008
- lotuslike I'm a Fan of lotuslike 8 fans permalink

Pitiful that you are still as bitter as you are. Hating right out of the gate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 11/15/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 178 fans permalink

Don't you have that backwards? HRC was the one making up the sniper stuff and the 3 a.m. phone calls and "hard working white people." Richardson stuck his neck out before it was a given that Obama would win and was called Judas by Carville. He's the one who took a principled stand, not Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 11/15/2008
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Quote from article - "The aide noted that while the Senator began her campaign with only a couple-hundred thousand email addresses in her database, she now has "at least three to five million."

The above comment - not so much what it said so much as that it was being said - is pretty revealing (and, frankly, a bit unsettlng).

The gist of it is: "Look how popular I am! Look how close I came to winning! Coulda woulda shoulda!" whereas the focus should be on (a) what skills will be needed by the new Secretary of State in a complex, fast-changing world? and (b) how well does Sen. Clinton's personality and skill-set fit those job requirements?

And let me add (c) would a State Dept. with Hillary in charge be a no-nonsense/all business State Dept.? Or would it instead be oh boy! the circus is coming to town?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 11/15/2008
- SF13 I'm a Fan of SF13 11 fans permalink

Can the Clintons be anything but a circus ? I don't think so. Pity that Obama will ruin his presidency even before he is inaugurated if he chooses her. Hillary Rodham Clinton is not CHANGE we CAN BELIEVE IN .. SHE IS A DISASTER JUST WAITING TO DESTROY OBAMA . and it seems she will do so at his invitation

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 11/15/2008
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I believe everyone who ever sent a comment is in that email database. I've had to unsubscribe but I'm sure she's counting my name!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 11/15/2008
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I unsubscribed too but it didn't stop them from continuing to send me fundraising requests!!

(All this because I just wanted a piece of information early on in the primaries.­.... *sighs*)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 11/15/2008
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

The article is merely quoting an aide who has some knowledge of the internet strength of Hillary Clinton. It isn't a quote from her directly. But that is why many of us do NOT want her to accept such a position. You cut her no slack and apparently are completely unaware of what her accomplishments are. Yes, she'd be a great SOS but I wouldn't want to see her do that job under Obama. Neither you nor he appreciates her skills; actually you sound like you are afraid of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 11/15/2008

A most intriguing question indeed. I expect that Mrs Clinton will make all the appropriate political calculations before jumping into a job which could either enhance or ruin her career and reputation.

The principal question in my mind is this: Could an Obama cabinet handle what might effectively become (assume Clinton does the job as well as I know she can) a parallel kingship within his administration?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 11/15/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 11/15/2008
- SF13 I'm a Fan of SF13 11 fans permalink

I can only hope the vetting of Bill destroys any chance HRC has of becoming SOS. ENOUGH OF THE CLINTONS !~

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 11/15/2008

Bill Richardson or Chuck Hagel for me or even McCain....­..
Barack did say he would reach across the aisle.....
Give Hillary health....­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 11/15/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 178 fans permalink

Chuck Hagel's foreign policy experience is better than HRC's for this position. If not Richardson or Clark, Hagel would be a good person to have from across the aisle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 11/15/2008
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Madam Secretary Hillary Rodhman Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 11/15/2008
- SF13 I'm a Fan of SF13 11 fans permalink

Makes me wanna puke

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 11/15/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 178 fans permalink

Of what? Healthcare would be O.K., not SOS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 11/15/2008
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