Pelosi Pledges Aid To Automakers, Strings Attached

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KEN THOMAS | November 15, 2008 05:44 PM EST | AP

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Chevrolet salesman Philip Jordan, center, assists Charlotte Olson, right, who's looking to buy a car for her 18-year-old daughter, Kari Olson, left, Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2008, in downtown Los Angeles. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson called autos a "critical industry" Wednesday but said a $700 billion financial rescue program wasn't designed for them. The White House was noncommital, but said it was open to new ideas. (AP Photo/Ric Francis)

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Saturday the House would provide aid to the ailing U.S. auto industry, requiring that the industry meet new fuel-efficiency standards, produce advanced vehicles and restructure "to ensure their long-term economic viability."

Pelosi, D-Calif., did not disclose the amount of funding House leaders intend to seek for the industry _ automakers have been seeking $25 billion in loans to stabilize their sinking companies. But she said the funding should come from the $700 billion financial bailout approved by Congress in October.

"A restructured, competitive American automobile industry will continue to play a crucial role in our national economy and in the global marketplace," Pelosi said in a statement.

The move sets up a conflict with the White House, which has opposed using the bailout funds to help General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC. The Detroit companies have been battered by an economic meltdown that has choked their sales and frozen credit.

U.S. automakers are lobbying lawmakers furiously for an emergency infusion of cash. GM has warned it might not survive through year's end without a government lifeline.

President-elect Barack Obama said he believes that aid is needed but that it should be provided as part of a long-term plan for a "sustainable U.S. auto industry" _ not simply as a blank check.

"For the auto industry to completely collapse would be a disaster in this kind of environment," Obama said in an interview with CBS's "60 Minutes" that will air Sunday. "So my hope is that over the course of the next week, between the White House and Congress, the discussions are shaped around providing assistance but making sure that that assistance is conditioned on labor, management, suppliers, lenders, all of the stakeholders coming together with a plan _ what does a sustainable U.S. auto industry look like?"

Pelosi said the plan would call for "immediate, targeted assistance" and must include several principles, including the restructuring of the companies "to ensure their long-term economic viability," new fuel-efficiency standards, and the development of advanced vehicles.

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She said it would include "even stronger limits on executive compensation and assurances to protect the taxpayer." House aides said the legislation was still being developed and a specific funding level had not yet been reached.

Pelosi did not mention any plans for the UAW to make any concessions as part of the legislation. UAW president Ron Gettelfinger told reporters earlier Saturday the problem is not the union's contract with the auto companies.

"The focus has to be on the economy as a whole as opposed to a UAW contract," Gettelfinger said. The union has said it made several concessions in its 2007 labor agreement, setting lower pay for new hires and placing retiree health care liability into a trust run by the UAW.

Facing an uphill battle in Congress and stiff opposition from President George W. Bush, supporters of the government bailout have considered reducing its $25 billion size. A House aide said Saturday that $25 billion was still the amount being discussed.

"There's a need for immediate action," Alan Reuther, the United Auto Workers union's legislative director, said Friday. He said one option under consideration was a smaller, more targeted amount of funding "that would get the companies through to March."

Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said negotiations were taking place among senators on what the amount should be. "This is about getting enough votes to be able to solve the problem," she said.

Other auto suppliers and dealers with showrooms empty of customers plan to join the effort Monday when Congress returns following the Nov. 4 elections. The key Senate vote on preventing opponents from blocking the package could occur as early as Wednesday.

Democrats want to carve a portion of the $700 billion that the Bush administration is using to bail out banks, insurance companies and other financial institutions. The White House on Friday came out firmly against the approach.

White House press secretary Dana Perino said the administration would rather Congress expedite the release of a separate $25 billion loan program for the development of fuel-efficient vehicles and have the loans used for more urgent purposes as the companies struggle to stay afloat.

"Democrats are choosing a path that would only lead to partisan gridlock," Perino said.

Pelosi said Saturday that any attempt to divert money from the loan program would be a "step backward in assuring the viability and competitiveness of the U.S. auto industry."

Environmentalists and Pelosi have vehemently opposed using that money for anything other than designing and building vehicles that get higher gas mileage and produce less pollution. Democrats hold a 37-seat majority in the House and bailout supporters foresee little difficulty winning its passage there.

But the measure needs 60 votes to survive in the Senate, where Democrats will hold a razor-thin 50-49 majority when President-elect Barack Obama gives up his seat on Monday. A furious search was on for a dozen Republicans to break the anticipated filibuster from opponents.

Several Republicans have already lined up against it. "Like most Americans who are concerned about the direction of our economy and more federal spending, I must also ask _ when is enough, enough?" said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas.

Two Republicans _ Kit Bond of Missouri and George Voinovich of Ohio _ said they will back the plan. Several other Republican senators have signaled they might accept a rescue if strict conditions are put on Detroit's Big Three companies, including management and salary changes, union concessions and a commitment to making more fuel-efficient vehicles.

Bond, whose home state of Missouri has several auto plants, said the concept of government mixing with the free market was "very troublesome." But he added, "We have to act in unique times of crisis when tens of thousands of Missouri workers are in danger of losing their jobs."

Democrats are modeling their bill on the bailout terms that the Bush administration has used for doling out $290 billion to banks and insurance companies. The government would get an ownership stake in the auto companies in exchange for the loans to ensure that taxpayers would get their money back if they return to profitability.

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Saturday the House would provide aid to the ailing U.S. auto industry, requiring that the industry meet new fuel-efficiency standards, produce advanc...
WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Saturday the House would provide aid to the ailing U.S. auto industry, requiring that the industry meet new fuel-efficiency standards, produce advanc...
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- jacqmac I'm a Fan of jacqmac 15 fans permalink

First of all--until the American people stop and I MEAN STOP-as in CEASE AND DESIST-believing that if only gas prices were lower they could afford to DRIVE their gas guzzling SUV's and RAM trucks-the Auto Industry's apologists will ALWAYS have an 'out.' Secondly--Pelosi is DEAD ON RIGHT about this 'bailout'. It CAN come out of the $700 Billion because well-Paulson's putting it everywhere else besides into the mortgage market in the first place and in the SECOND place, the BAILOUT might just GO to PART of the mortgage market ANYWAY! WHY? Four letters. G-M-A-C!! That's RIGHT!! GENERAL MOTORS ACCEPTANCE CORPORATION! Used to be just a 'small little internal credit market' for people who were buying GM cars but NOW, how do you think that GMAC has been getting capital? BY BUYING DISTRESSED AND FORECLOSED PROPERTIES and then SELLING THEM at a PROFIT! That's RIGHT KIDS!! The Company that might have helped you buy your first CAR, is NOW IN THE MORTGAGE MARKET!!! Makes ya wanna CRY, doesn't it???!! :) So--PELOSI IS DEAD ON RIGHT!! There needs to be no NEW $$ allocated for the BIG THREE--nop­e---They'r­e part of this mortgage crisis---let Paulson dig 'em out!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 11/16/2008

I don't want to see the economic fallout if they fail! I wish Honda or Toyota (who already build more than 80% of their cars in N.A.) would set up in Detroit and hire the dispaced autoworkers. The property is very cheap, and the workworce is already trained. That would wake up the Motor City. Auto bosses took huge HUGE bonuses. But autoworkers make $45-60,000. That is too much considering they they didn't pay for their own training. And the benefits packages are HUGE. This is too much money for a job requiring only high school. They make more than teachers and many other professionals (some of whom have to pay their OWN retirement). The auto bosses should have drawn the line on these wages, but they were too busy getting bonuses to keep the line rolling. The whole system is rotten, rotten, rotten. Honda and Toyata don't pay as much, but they still pay well for those job requirements. The Big-3 have priced themselves out of the market, and instead of investing in product improvement, they have just kept producing the same stuff that is 20 years old in its technology. And it shows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 11/16/2008
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

Not going to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 11/16/2008

I know - I'm just saying that it would be a very heads-up move for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 11/16/2008
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I don't want to see the economic fallout if they fail! I wish Honda or Toyota (who already build more than 80% of their cars in N.A.) would set up in Detroit and hire the dispaced autoworkers.
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Actually, Toyota very much wanted to open an auto plant in the USA a couple of years ago. But when they crunched the numbers and realized how much they would have to pay for health insurance for their workers, they ended up in going to Canada.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 11/16/2008

Strange...­there's a Toyota plant in Huntsville, Alabama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 11/16/2008
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The management of these companies is an embarrassment ! While the the foreign manufacturers were busy pumping millions and indeed billions into alternative fuel vehicles and advanced concepts, the Big 3 invested in a Hummer plant, Jeep models that are difficult to tell apart, new massive SUVs and a facelift for their lines of pickup trucks.
The entire world, including the majority of American consumers have known for years that there was a looming fuel crisis, yet these mismanaged behemoths have failed to respond, and in fact have hardly managed to keep up with import trends.
It's unfair and distracting to blame the unions. They have not called the shots in terms of setting corporate strategies. The average time to bring a vehicle from concept to production has dropped to a matter of months since the 60s when it took years, so there's no excuse but stubbornness and lack of leadership and vision from senior management.
They should all be fired, without golden parachutes, and replaced by motivated, forward thinking environmentally minded leaders. Additionally, as Americans, we also have to realize that the automotive market has been saturated for years. In order to sell more vehicles, we have been given increasingly cheaper "disposable" vehicles that must be replaced after 3 years. Maintenance is now a lost art. We are wasting resources and must find a happy medium if we are to solve this problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 11/16/2008

There is a lot of truth to what you say. However, there's lots of blame to go around. Just last year, when most people were happy to have jobs, the UAW went on strike and idled GM. In doing so, they cost all the small companies that supply GM and millions of people a lot of money. Considering how much money they were making at the time they went on strike, their actions were callous and rubbed salt in the wound of many people who were already feeling the burden of a tightening economy. A LOT of companies in my home town lost a lot of money, because auto workers wanted more instead of being grateful that they had jobs, unlike so many others. And it's not like they're making 10 bucks an hour or something. Not even CLOSE. They make really good money and lots of benefits. But some of the people they idled were making 10 bucks an hour!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 11/16/2008
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

A vehicle that needs to be replaced every three years is a New York City Taxi Cab that works 3 shifts everyday for 3 years.... a car that is never turned off. And maintenance is not a lost art, it just requires a computer now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 11/16/2008
- ricitizen I'm a Fan of ricitizen 17 fans permalink
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I agree with your last paragraph completely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 11/16/2008
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 183 fans permalink
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I hope we see the day when people with MBA's from our top business schools hide their MBA's from their resumes like people who want to hide their criminal records when seeking employment. I am sure auto companies have their share of these business geniuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 11/16/2008

They are asking for loans! Lets loan them the money like we did Chrysler in the 80's!! Then they should hire Lee Iaccaco, who pulled Chrysler from the deep mire they were in!!
Then insted of the top execs getting the 10 mil they can put the money back in the pension funds of the workers, whom they robbed!!!!
Then they can get back to the biz of building fuel-efficent,green cars. And tell the oil companies to get lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 11/16/2008

Well, Chrysler got bailed out and still did not improve their business practices. Twenty-some years later, they're back in the hole. Everyone did well in the 80's. A failure would be a catastrophe, but their track record on recovery was short-lived. That can't go on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 11/16/2008
- DCinFrance I'm a Fan of DCinFrance 34 fans permalink
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Are they truly going under or just more pigs at the trough? If they are going to go out of business, the consequences will be enormous. It's not that the auto companies employe people like they once did 60 years ago--they are mostly automated now. I went to an engine plant in Detroit and the place was huge. At least a half dozen football fields with row upon row of machines, and about a 10 people responsible for maintenance. Where the real employment comes in is everything that feeds into and out of the auto industry. My company would loose about a billion and a half in sales, if not more. Not directly from the auto companies, though a big chunk, but to all the OEMs that build the machines for them. We'd have to lay off, oh, at least 20 to 30% of 32 thousand people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 11/16/2008
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

Auto Executives are a bunch of liars. The true financial state of their industry is unknown. And the 3 week American experiment into socialism has taught us that giving money to a bunch of greedy scum, see JP Morgan , is not the answer.

Unfortunately your post outlines the reasons we cannot wait until they file Chapter 11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 11/16/2008
- BeauMonde I'm a Fan of BeauMonde 4 fans permalink

I think the oil companies should bailout the auto industry, not us. They've been making loads of money lately, I'm sure they can give some up to retool the car industries of the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 11/16/2008
- 23000Days I'm a Fan of 23000Days 94 fans permalink
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Would you really want the foxes to run the henhouse?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 11/16/2008
- DCinFrance I'm a Fan of DCinFrance 34 fans permalink
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They have been from the start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 11/16/2008
- BeauMonde I'm a Fan of BeauMonde 4 fans permalink

Nah, government gets supervision and oil companies give the money.

That's fair no? Considering the tax breaks they've gotten over the past years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 11/16/2008

Ummmmmm...­you mean they haven't been???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 11/16/2008

$25 Billion, that's about 10 weeks in Iraq ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 11/15/2008
- gouge I'm a Fan of gouge 9 fans permalink

boy, you said it!.....Th­is is exactly how Obama should start -its 1941 all over again and, WE NEED TO RETOOL! -as a nation!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 11/16/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

No more bailouts for corporations. People can't even afford to buy new cars, help them out instead of giving handouts to the auto industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 11/15/2008
- stella801 I'm a Fan of stella801 22 fans permalink
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I agree.....­I'm in my 50's and I'm watching my Dad's life savings go down the tube. He worked hard all his life and now is devastated. He and his generation need a bail out. He is not a rich man...just worked hard and did what he was supposed to do....save for retirement. He did that and now, it is disappearing. Where is the outcry on this????? I'm so p*is*sed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 11/16/2008
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The problem is that millions of people would lose their jobs though. That's the reason I think they should help them out. But they do need to do something about the management.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 11/16/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

Yes, so help the people directly if they lose their jobs. Bailing out the auto companies will do nothing to increase car sales, so the employees' jobs remain at risk, anyway. Put them to work somewhere more useful, rather than having them build things that won't get bought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 11/16/2008
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

GM must sell Saab before it gets a bailout. Ford must sell Volvo before it gets a bailout. Chrysler must sell Jeep before they get a bailout. Chrysler is owned by a hedge fund and they should get nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 11/15/2008

I agree. There is also GM's stake in Opel and Isuzu. Let the "Big 3" divest their foreign holdings first, then talk about the bailout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 11/16/2008
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

...i've never wanted to punch a woman before....­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 11/15/2008
- Emlyn I'm a Fan of Emlyn 9 fans permalink

You need to punch the person responsible - BUSH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 11/16/2008

I think you would actually have to exhume the body of Ronald Reagan if you want to go after the one that's primarily responsible. Wait, actually, if would be Nancy's Father who converted Ronnie from a staunch Democrat to sleazy Republican. It was Ronnie who went after the unions. It was Ronnie who stopped enforcing the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, it was Ronnie who stopped collecting tariffs on imported goods, it was Ronnie who dramatically lowered the top income tax rate, it was Ronnie who slashed the Capital Gains Tax. Heck, I believe that the U.S. derived 23% of it GNP from tariffs in 1980! Now it's less than 1%. Ronnie lowered the top income tax rate from 70% to 28%, and raised the bottom tax rate from 11% to 15%. Reaganomics: A Nation of the Corporations, for the Corporations, and by the Corporations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 11/16/2008
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

silly partisan, tricks are for kids.

it starts at the federal reserve. there are only two parties on the Hill, with few exceptions in each camp: the complicit and the clueless.

it is the centrist/new world order elites in both parties that funded illegal wars, passed FISA, Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act and almost unilaterally ignored the constituents and passed the bailout.

She is for christ's sake the speaker of the house and sets agenda. reagan had his part, but it started long ago....

now i want to punch her twice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 11/16/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 238 fans permalink
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Why are they still advertising gas guzzling pick ups

WTF

Fire all the management before they get a penny

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 11/15/2008

Something like 1 in every 10 American jobs is connected to the auto industry. If we let them fail, we let millions of Americans fail too who should bare no consequences of the leadership's actions.

Iraq: The Pink Elephant in the Room...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 11/15/2008
- Veri I'm a Fan of Veri 18 fans permalink

Get rid of the MBAs at the Big Three and they might have a chance. The American businessman is now the laughingstock of the world. And The Big Three are the poster clowns for how not to run a business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 11/15/2008
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These irresponsible corporations have consistently ignored all the warnings for well over 30 years now and did nothing to prevent the inevitable result of their own carelessness. I say let the bug.gers go the way of all the extinct species that they had a large hand in causing. A new world is struggling to be born that will replace this failed one. It's painful but we've got to let them go. My only regret is the immediate effect it will have on so many workers and their families. The domino effect on related industries and services may well push this capitalist economy as we currently know it over the edge. Life will go on. Something will have to fill the vacuum created by their demise. We need to summon the courage to metaphorically shoot the prize racehorse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 11/15/2008
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