"Frightened" David Frum Quits National Review

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First Posted: 11-17-08 12:52 PM   |   Updated: 12-18-08 05:12 AM

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NY Times:

In a span of 252 days, the National Review lost two Buckleys -- one to death, another to resignation -- and an election. ...

Now David Frum, a prominent conservative writer who enmeshed himself in a minor dustup during the campaign by turning negative on Governor Palin, is leaving, too. In an interview, he said he planned to leave the magazine, where he writes a popular blog, to strike out on his own on the Web. ...

"I am really and truly frightened by the collapse of support for the Republican Party by the young and the educated," he said.

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In a span of 252 days, the National Review lost two Buckleys -- one to death, another to resignation -- and an election. ... Now David Frum, a prominent conservative writer who enmeshed himself in a ...
In a span of 252 days, the National Review lost two Buckleys -- one to death, another to resignation -- and an election. ... Now David Frum, a prominent conservative writer who enmeshed himself in a ...
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"I am really and truly frightened by the collapse of support for the Republican Party by the young and the educated,"

The Republicans have spent the last decade or so reviling the young and the educated all the while they were glorifying the old and the ignorant. What did they expect would happen? One (and only one) of the big problems these guys have is that they never expect that they will have to face any consequences for anything they do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 11/17/2008

The berated intellectuals, attacked the Scientific Method, asserted that pseudo-science and corporate-sponsored junk science were TRUTH. They were addicts to the "we create reality" mantra (really something akin to the most extreme postmodernists of the French leftwing)...that winning "minds" was the only good, not conformance with reality.

Their writers, like Tom Bethell latched onto Creationism, anti-global warming rhetoric, and economic models that had been shown, repeatedly, to have the opposite effect that their promotors asserted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 11/17/2008

The Gop is a dead horse. IT will never be a contender for the dems again. They let the likes of Karl Rove, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and the rest of those hacks at FAUX NOISE write their agenda for them, and they began to beleive their own smears and hate mongers' rheotic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 11/17/2008
- postman606 I'm a Fan of postman606 67 fans permalink
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I would amend that by saying the Republican Party, in it's present carnation is dead, but like every other time in history they will evolve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 11/17/2008
- ByersL I'm a Fan of ByersL 37 fans permalink

We used to know what a Republican was. We disagreed, but we didn't hate each other. The far right took over, and the center right didn't fight back. Hopefully, they will now. It's not healthy for us (Dems) to have such domination!! haha.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 11/17/2008

Seems to me that recent history shows that the GOP has been "de-evolving." Hmm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 11/17/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 563 fans permalink
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This is the very core of their problem ... they don't believe in evolution!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 11/17/2008
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"I am really and truly frightened by the collapse of support for the Republican Party by the young and the educated," he said.

Boy, it really sucks when people start thinking, doesn't it!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 11/17/2008
- Badbone I'm a Fan of Badbone 11 fans permalink

The party is in disarray, no doubt. But nothing will bring people back to the Republican party like an Obama presidency.

Just hold out 4 years, Mr. Frum. When Americans have had enough cotton candy, they'll be ready again for meat and potatoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 11/17/2008
- dcjdjay I'm a Fan of dcjdjay 23 fans permalink

Go back 28 years to the Dem defeat by Reagan.

Dems said the same thing - nothing will bring people back to the Democratic party like a Reagan presidency.

Didn't happen.

The country is in roughly the same mess it was back in 1980 (only worse this time). Voters will give any improvement over the current mess great deference, much like they did in 1984. And given that its unlikely that the GOP will move to the center any time soon what with Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin being the front runners for 2012, non-ideological voters will probably continue to shun the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 11/17/2008
- JenMI I'm a Fan of JenMI 15 fans permalink

I won't be satisfied until the consrvative ship sinks with Limbaugh aboard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 11/17/2008

John Travolta plays David Frum in "Palindromes of the Heart"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 11/17/2008

Poor baby!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 11/17/2008
- Hare I'm a Fan of Hare 29 fans permalink
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I hope the GOP is like Titanic. A sinking expensive, make that very expensive ship, and these folks are trying to jump before it takes them down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 11/17/2008

Rich Lowry panting over Palin - no wonder Frum left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 11/17/2008

Yes, the National Review is in tatters, as is the GOP. THANK GOD!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 11/17/2008
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Frum should be heartened not frightened. it shows that somewhere in the nexus of Republicanism-
is a conscience. Clearly, the Republican dilemna is this: ‘intellectual firepower’ doesn’t serve its Orthodoxy. The goose step of Republican
lock and load served the Bush Administration very well. 'no thank you ' very much. Intellectual firepower doesn’t cram itself into the muzzle of the military industrial complex. It’s bulky.

As to NATIONAL REVIEW’S ‘erudition’?
erroodit adjective knowledge or learning.
( DOES NOT IMPLY WISDOM)
ORIGIN Latin eruditus, from erudire ‘instruct, train’.
— ie. goose step

Publisher Wick Allison,believes ……”the magazine became “the intellectual defender of the Bush administration” and said it had “run out of ideas.” ?? Ran out of cover ups is more like it.

Mr. Frum witnessed the upbraiding his fellow conservative, the columnist Kathleen Parker, received when she wrote that: “Governor Palin was unfit to be vice president. Ms. Parker received nearly 11,000 e-mail messages, one of which lamented that her mother did not abort her”. ?
Apparently Republicans are abortionists only in ‘extremist’ cases.

As to Buckley’s channeling: “I’m sure he would have admired Obama’s rhetorical ability and his stage presence. But like for all of us, it’s about ideas,” Mr. Lowry said.

Okay. If ideas at NR have been like lightbulbs. how many Republicans does it take to screw one in.

One: Dick Cheney.

Brave the New World Mr. Frum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 11/17/2008

reminds me of that saying - if you aren't a liberal in college, you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you grow up, you don't have a brain. HAHAHAHAHA see you in 2 years - - -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 11/17/2008
- billwetzel I'm a Fan of billwetzel 3 fans permalink

Yeah but that's a stupid saying put forth by people who couldn't govern anything to save their lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 11/17/2008
- dcjdjay I'm a Fan of dcjdjay 23 fans permalink

The saying said conservative, not Christian evangelical fundamentalist luddite.

There is nothing conservative about the GOP. Its a theocratic carnival. If there are any conservatives left, they're probably in the Democratic Party, a centrist political organization that is considered liberal and/or leftist only by the loons who inhabit the GOP.

Even our Canadian friends up North laugh at American depictions of the Democrats as lefties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 11/17/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 563 fans permalink
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Conservatives have been jumping the Republican Party ship for several months now, and after McCain made Palin the face of the Party, they began jumping en masse. There's a distinction between a Republican and a conservative. There are probably just as many conservative Democrats as there are conservative Republicans, just as there are liberal Democrats and Republicans,
but most conservative Republicans are no longer Republicans at all. In two years, the conservatives will have deserted the Republican Party altogether.

HAHAHAHAHA ... see you in 2 years ---

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 11/17/2008
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he's frightened that "the educated" are leaving the GOP? maybe that says it all, right there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 11/17/2008
- PCRX I'm a Fan of PCRX 3 fans permalink

Good. Now lets all work to improve education as best we can to bury them forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 11/17/2008

"ARE leaving?" The educated left decades ago...

But consider this...when you actually promote a society where putting kids in Christian-based home schooling is to be the principle source of your support...do you really expect many of these folks to be capable of hacking higher education?

These kids, for the most part, will be capable of slinging burgers or working at some sort of manual labor. And THEIR kids will be home schooled by these parents...an nauseum.

That's the future of the Republican Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 11/17/2008

He's frightened and Joe Lieberman fears for the country. Perhaps they could form an anxiety support group.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 11/17/2008
- Indie2008 I'm a Fan of Indie2008 44 fans permalink

"I am really and truly frightened by the collapse of support for the Republican Party by the young and the educated"- Pretty much says it all, doesn't it Mr. Frum? Reminds me of the old adage, "If you wallow with pigs, you're going to get mud on you".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 11/17/2008
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