Franken's Position Looks Surprisingly Good, New Political Study Shows

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First Posted: 11-17-08 05:38 PM   |   Updated: 12-18-08 05:12 AM

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Despite trailing his opponent by slightly more than two hundred votes, Democratic challenger Al Franken stands a strong chance of passing Sen. Norm Coleman during the upcoming recount, according to at least one prominent political scientist.

Professor Michael C. Herron of Dartmouth College, has put together a new study of the voting patterns in Minnesota, in the process determining that the majority of voters who cast unrecorded ballots in the Senate race were likely Franken supporters.

"If someone put a gun to my head and said, 'You have to bet,' I would bet Franken," Herron said, when reached by phone. "It won't be a wipe-out. Two hundred votes is effectively tied. We just know that, in this case, Democrats tend to [screw up their ballots] more often [than Republicans]." In Minnesota, the "intent" of the voter is considered during recounts.

According to Herron's analysis, of the 2.9 million people who went to the polls in Minnesota, there were approximately 34,000 residual voters in the Senate race. In other words, there were 34,000 more ballots cast than total number of recorded votes for all the Senate candidates.

Why the difference? A good portion of voters, Herron concludes, voted in the presidential election but deliberately did not vote for a Senate candidate. These people won't matter when it comes to a recount.

There is, however, a portion of the 34,000 who intended to vote for one of the Senate candidates but messed up. Voters were supposed to fill in the circle next to the name of the candidate they supported. Some, however, marked X's. Others circled the name itself or crossed out the names of candidates they didn't like.

This group is key to determining the Minnesota Senate victor.

In his study, Herron looked at the figures from the 2006 congressional election and the 2008 presidential election to determine which areas of the state have the most residual voters. By isolating these areas, Herron could determine which group was most likely to have wanted to vote one way but failed to cast their ballots properly.

He found that the majority of residual voters came from two, not necessarily distinct places: African American communities and traditionally Democratic communities. With the former, he theorized, there was likely a "turnout surge" -- many people went to the polls to support Barack Obama and no one else (or at least not Franken). The latter, however, contained voters who "almost certainly intended to cast a vote in the Senate race [and likely for Franken] but for some reason did not do so."

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How big that group is, is crucial. And a way to figure it out is to first look at how Barack Obama and John McCain fared in the state.

According to Herron there was an approximately 0.34 percent residual vote rate in presidential race voting among Minnesotans. This means that of the 2.9 million votes cast for a presidential candidate, nearly 10,000 individuals wanted to vote but screwed up. There may have been people who wanted to vote in local and congressional contests, but not the presidential race. But this group is likely quite small.

In other words, there are probably somewhere between 8,000 and 10,000 Minnesota voters who had clear problems filling out a ballot when voting for all contests (Senate and presidential). Many of these individuals, moreover, hailed from Democratic communities.

"Ultimately, the anticipated recount may clarify the relative proportions of intentional versus unintentional residual voters," writes Herron. "At present, though, the data available suggest that the recount will uncover many of the former and that, of the latter, a majority will likely prove to be supportive of Franken."

All Franken needs is to win more than 207 votes from this group than Coleman, and he will take over the Senate seat.

Despite trailing his opponent by slightly more than two hundred votes, Democratic challenger Al Franken stands a strong chance of passing Sen. Norm Coleman during the upcoming recount, according to at...
Despite trailing his opponent by slightly more than two hundred votes, Democratic challenger Al Franken stands a strong chance of passing Sen. Norm Coleman during the upcoming recount, according to at...
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- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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Rooting for Al... A smart, honest and funny guy to shake up the fuddy-duddy contingent in the senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 11/18/2008
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funny?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 11/18/2008
- bar2200 I'm a Fan of bar2200 5 fans permalink
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I love him.....and being Democratic, I'm rooting for him, couldn't vote for him as I do not reside in Minnesota....Hang in there, Al - and chant your Stuart Smalley's affirmation, "I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me! .... " Blessings to you, Al.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 11/18/2008
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If so, Sean Hannity will be pissed!

And for that alone, I hope Franken is the victor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 11/18/2008
- Avembe I'm a Fan of Avembe 5 fans permalink

and for that alone i will have an ...i mean i will be very....very....very...VERY HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 11/18/2008

Me too. Can't stand Hannity, O'Rielly, and Joe in the Morning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 11/18/2008
- jackstpaul I'm a Fan of jackstpaul 11 fans permalink

This article ignores machine screw-ups. There are undoubtedly votes missed or screwed up due to machine malfunction and also some election staff errors. The general, national pattern is that machines in lower-income and also minority-heavy neighborhoods are lest well-kept or older, more prone to failure, than elsewhere. Who knows how true it is for Minnesota.

It's not just voter error at issue.

An analysis that studied the machine quality issue would be useful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 11/18/2008

He's good enough, he's smart enough, and dawggone it people like him. Minnesota will elect anyone won't they? Hey, I voted for Obama but for God's sake will someone tell me how Franken is qualified to be an insta-senator? Really, call it both ways folks. True, Palin was grossly unqualified to hold the office of VP. How is Franken qualified to be a US senator?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 11/18/2008
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he is an intelligent man, has grasp of the issues, he cares about working people. if you had listened to him or read his work rather than working off gop talking points crib notes you'd know that. you don't have to like him but you're not near as smart as you think you are and you proved with your post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 11/18/2008

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not sure what the GOP attack angles are on Franken. I do know that he had/has a successful career as a writer/actor on SNL and I'm sure has some well-received essays and op-ed pieces out there somewhere; however, I prefer not to have my senators be OJT'd. It would be more prudent to start with the state level first and build experience and knowledge in public policy in that fashion. You know, like that one guy. Oh, gosh I'm not very smart. D@%n it, what's his name? Umm...sharp looking dude, smooth talker, knows his issues inside and out, has legislative experience. Oh yeah!! President Obama, that guy!! Anybody can SAY they care about working people. Hell, GWB SAID he cared about working people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 11/18/2008
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 61 fans permalink

In this country, it is a citizen who is elected to every office not someone in a special 'political class' or 'bloodline'. We can elect unqualified people if we want to although it has never happened in over 200 years. I marvel at how many lawyers become elected officials yet they are unable to write legislation that isn't full of inconsistencies and loopholes. For example, in Nebraska, the law as written allowed parents to drop off and abandon teenage children that they no longer wanted. Yep, them lawyer/politicians sure can write good laws. The Congress just passed the $700B bailout that besides being full of pork, failed to address the issue of banks lending money to borrowers instead of using it for CEO compensation and mergers. A comedian/Senator could do no worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 11/18/2008

Kinda condescending doncha think? This was Paul Wellstone's seat. Wellstone was a liberal arts professor and a wrestling coach. That turned out rather well, and if we had had more "unqualified" senators like him, we might have avoided the Iraq fiasco. I'd vote for a person who stood for principle I agree with over an "experienced" candidate who doesn't any day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 11/18/2008

I thought Franken would get the seat when I heard there were a lot of uncounted absentee and early ballots. Now I feel more confident Franken will win the seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 11/18/2008
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I donated and voted for Obama. I donated to Franken (not from Minnesota); saw him in concert once. I donated and voted for the new Delaware Governor Jack Markell. I consider myself a progressive Democrat. I understand all the frustration we have with the Republicans, as I have them too.

My only question is why do we use the word "troll" all the time to describe Repubs. I've seen all other descriptions using spelling adjustments, like Rethuglican or Repuglican. but I do not get trolls. I remember the old fable about the troll that lived under the bridge, but that is all I got. Please answer this mystery for me and I will be grateful.

Frinkiciously Yours,

Fessor Frink

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 11/18/2008

A troll is someone who hangs around a website to annoy / get attention.
See http://www.google.com/search?q=define:+troll

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 11/18/2008

Go Al!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 11/18/2008
- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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Wow, if I were a sitting senator and Al Franken became one, I would be very nervous about what he knows and what he will do with it.... Great! You go Al.... find the lies and the lying liars that tell them....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 11/18/2008
- grizhead63 I'm a Fan of grizhead63 16 fans permalink
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The Republican Party is now the party of the Old South and Southern Appalachia as they continue their deathmarch to the far right. Thank you GOP, and all of your trollies as well!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 11/18/2008
- heal57 I'm a Fan of heal57 27 fans permalink

Nothing would please me more than to see Norm Coleman out of the Senate. He's a worm. Let's hope Franken gets that Minnesota seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 11/18/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Based on this academic study, it's clear Senator Franken will be headed to the US Senate.

For sure, he at least has a seat at Stetson University, in DeLand Florida!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 11/18/2008
- Topfeeder I'm a Fan of Topfeeder 35 fans permalink

Go Hatters!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 11/18/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Mad hatters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 AM on 11/18/2008

I hope Al Franken wins, so the repubs. can truly see that the time of voter fraud and stealing of the votes is over. Now they can see how it feels. They are so used to having things their way, Coleman is a crook, can't you tell from those horse teeth he has? Saxby Chambliss will lose also ,when the run-off takes place.All these republican dogs need to go. They don't know what honesty is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 11/18/2008

Yeah because you know everyone's character can be instantly determined by your subjective opinion of the quality of their dentition. If you're trying to be funny, you aren't. So ultimately you would make the perfect staffer for Franken. Why not e-mail him a resume?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 11/18/2008

This would be wonderful payback for the recount in 2000!

Wow, nothing goes right for the Rethugs anymore. And I can't wait to see them cry, pout, whine and spaz out when they lose. Cook up the popcorn, folks, and enjoy the spectacle of the GOP reduced to a pathetic bunch of demoralized crybabies lashing out at everyone else and each other. LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 11/18/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 97 fans permalink

well if we must have lieberman , at least we can have Franken to balance it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 11/17/2008
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