Bill Kristol "Ambivalent" About Staying At New York Times

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Huffington Post   |   November 18, 2008 03:31 PM

Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of his New York Times column, which is rumored to be ending when his contract expires next month, and Kristol said he was "ambivalent" about staying on:

"I don't think I've had that conversation yet," he told me.


Okay -- but would he like to have it renewed? "I'm ambivalent. It's been fun. It's a lot of work. I have a lot of things going on. But I haven't really focused on it."


Kristol said he planned to talk to Andy Rosenthal, the Times's editorial-page editor, "soon."

The Huffington Post broke the news last year that Kristol was hired for the Times gig.

The New Yorker's George Packer weighed in this week on the topic of whether Kristol should stay at the Times — in a scathing critique, Packer argues strongly that Kristol's contract with the Times should not be renewed:

It's time for the newspaper to move on. For Pinch Sulzberger and Andy Rosenthal to renew Kristol's one-year contract, in 2009, would be for the Times to reward failure--and look where that got Wall Street and General Motors. It's not just that Kristol isn't another Safire (although an absence of verbal playfulness and wit is a consistent hallmark of the Kristol prose style). It's not just that his views are utterly predictable (if that were firing grounds, close to half the Times columnists would lose their jobs). It's not just that he was fundamentally wrong at least every other week throughout the year (misattributing a quote in his first column, counting Clinton out after Iowa, placing Obama at a Jeremiah Wright sermon that Obama didn't attend, predicting the imminent return of a McCain adviser named Mike Murphy who ended up staying off the campaign, all but predicting a McCain victory, sort of predicting that McCain would oppose the bailout, praising McCain's "suspension" of his campaign as a smart move, preferring fake populism to professional excellence and Joe the Plumber to Horace the Poet, urging Ayers-Wright attack tactics as the way for McCain to win, basically telling McCain to ignore all the advice Kristol had given him throughout the year, but above all, vouching again and again and again, privately and publicly, for Palin as an excellent Vice-Presidential choice). What the hell--it was an unpredictable year.


The real grounds for firing Kristol are that he didn't take his column seriously. In his year on the Op-Ed page, not one memorable sentence, not one provocative thought, not one valuable piece of information appeared under his name. The prose was so limp ("Who, inquiring minds want to know, is going to spare us a first Obama term?") that you had the sense Kristol wrote his column during the commercial breaks of his gig on Fox News Sunday and gave it about the same amount of thought.


In one sense, this mental shallowness and literary poverty come as a surprise from the son of Irving Kristol and Gertrude Himmelfarb, the student of Harvey C. Mansfield, the devotee of Leo Strauss, and the colleague of Robert Kagan, David Brooks, et al. Kristol was never an intellectual--he's always been a Republican strategist with various public platforms, including government office--but under his editorship the Weekly Standard managed to be lively and interesting on a regular basis. By his own account, Kristol is the sort of person who browses through a used bookstore at the Milwaukee airport while waiting for a plane and picks up an old edition of Orwell's essays.

Read Packer's entire (link-heavy) critique here.

Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of ...
Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of ...
 
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- Stud99 I'm a Fan of Stud99 3 fans permalink

People still read the NY Times?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 11/18/2008
- oiba I'm a Fan of oiba permalink

Yeah. When you want to read a newspaper discussing international news, you can't really look at The Daily News, Newsday(a Long Island base n.p, maybe queens too?) and definitely not NYPost. Coming from a New Yorker who doesn't own a Black Berry and who lacks internet access on my cell phone. I love reading it when I board the train to head to work. It's not my only source of news, but it is my one of my daily sources.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 11/19/2008
- moongal6 I'm a Fan of moongal6 75 fans permalink
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No, the readership went way down when they brought Kristol on board.
Let him go.
He's a legend in his own mind.
He just start up the PNAC with John McCain again.
This time they'll try and take over the whole Middle East.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 11/19/2008

Well, good luck with that plan - since taking over a good part of Iraq seems to have been out of reach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 11/19/2008

I don't mind him being a columnist for the NYT. So long as they have no problem with hiring an anarchist columnist. Bukhanin's great-gran­dson/daugh­ter perhaps.

Given that he/she (if he/she exists) follows his footsteps, we will actually have a left-wing voice. Like, REAL left-wing. Not this 'liberal' stuff which is really centre-left. But you know, 'hard left' as right-wingers often call anyone not agreeing with them.

Then I will see what people from all walks of life think about issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Yes, indeed. I'll volunteer for that hard left post. Huffpo deletes about 25% of my comments. If you dissent a teeny bit outside of their narrow view of what's politically correct, you're Hugo Chavez for f#ck's sake. They sure weren't so picky during the primary season. I guess they had to "straighten up and fly right", now that the rightwing lurkers are here in force.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 11/19/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 492 fans permalink
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It's what business people call "a poor fit."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 11/18/2008
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Believe me, no one will even know your column was ever there to begin with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 11/18/2008
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quit quit quit quit!!!
good riddance..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 11/18/2008
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don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split you, freak-man. I am so glad this side show is ending. I have yet to read one of your pieces of trash and I take the NYT home delivery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 11/18/2008
- Burkelbile I'm a Fan of Burkelbile 46 fans permalink
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I want him gone. Hope the Times gets the message and can get the stain out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 11/18/2008
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 18 fans permalink

BYE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 11/18/2008
- Mr Grey I'm a Fan of Mr Grey 5 fans permalink

I'm for one am not so ambivalent about you sir, go away and darken our door no more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 11/18/2008
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Billy Boy: let not ye be struck upon thine "thinking" apparatus even as thou doth egress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 11/18/2008

Funny for Kristol to even use the word ambivalent. He didn't have a single ambivalent thought about Bush and his policies . On those he was 100 per cent certain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 11/18/2008
- NuAgeDok I'm a Fan of NuAgeDok 5 fans permalink

Later Bill -

You will always have a spot on Brit Spume's Special Report Panel or

Chris Wallace' s Fox News Sunday's Inner Circle panel

because they will always save a seat at the table for a Neocon shill like you -

The sooner you leave the better 'cause your column is wasting valuable bandwidth, paper and ink.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 11/18/2008
- standard I'm a Fan of standard 27 fans permalink

"Bill Kristol 'Ambivalent' About Staying At New York Times"

Leave, Bill. We're ambivalent about your having the Times as a forum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 11/18/2008
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No we're not; we all hated that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 11/18/2008

Bill, please just go away. Far away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 11/18/2008
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He will be best tolerated in places in which no one speaks (or learns to speak) English.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 11/18/2008

That's okay , I'm more than ambivalent about Kristol's ethics and intelligence. He has neither. I'm sure his brain has been shrinking these past 8 years because it has definitely not been receiving oxygen from his heart. Same for the NYT for that matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 11/18/2008
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