Bill Kristol "Ambivalent" About Staying At New York Times

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

Huffington Post   |   November 18, 2008 03:31 PM

Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of his New York Times column, which is rumored to be ending when his contract expires next month, and Kristol said he was "ambivalent" about staying on:

"I don't think I've had that conversation yet," he told me.


Okay -- but would he like to have it renewed? "I'm ambivalent. It's been fun. It's a lot of work. I have a lot of things going on. But I haven't really focused on it."


Kristol said he planned to talk to Andy Rosenthal, the Times's editorial-page editor, "soon."

The Huffington Post broke the news last year that Kristol was hired for the Times gig.

The New Yorker's George Packer weighed in this week on the topic of whether Kristol should stay at the Times — in a scathing critique, Packer argues strongly that Kristol's contract with the Times should not be renewed:

It's time for the newspaper to move on. For Pinch Sulzberger and Andy Rosenthal to renew Kristol's one-year contract, in 2009, would be for the Times to reward failure--and look where that got Wall Street and General Motors. It's not just that Kristol isn't another Safire (although an absence of verbal playfulness and wit is a consistent hallmark of the Kristol prose style). It's not just that his views are utterly predictable (if that were firing grounds, close to half the Times columnists would lose their jobs). It's not just that he was fundamentally wrong at least every other week throughout the year (misattributing a quote in his first column, counting Clinton out after Iowa, placing Obama at a Jeremiah Wright sermon that Obama didn't attend, predicting the imminent return of a McCain adviser named Mike Murphy who ended up staying off the campaign, all but predicting a McCain victory, sort of predicting that McCain would oppose the bailout, praising McCain's "suspension" of his campaign as a smart move, preferring fake populism to professional excellence and Joe the Plumber to Horace the Poet, urging Ayers-Wright attack tactics as the way for McCain to win, basically telling McCain to ignore all the advice Kristol had given him throughout the year, but above all, vouching again and again and again, privately and publicly, for Palin as an excellent Vice-Presidential choice). What the hell--it was an unpredictable year.


The real grounds for firing Kristol are that he didn't take his column seriously. In his year on the Op-Ed page, not one memorable sentence, not one provocative thought, not one valuable piece of information appeared under his name. The prose was so limp ("Who, inquiring minds want to know, is going to spare us a first Obama term?") that you had the sense Kristol wrote his column during the commercial breaks of his gig on Fox News Sunday and gave it about the same amount of thought.


In one sense, this mental shallowness and literary poverty come as a surprise from the son of Irving Kristol and Gertrude Himmelfarb, the student of Harvey C. Mansfield, the devotee of Leo Strauss, and the colleague of Robert Kagan, David Brooks, et al. Kristol was never an intellectual--he's always been a Republican strategist with various public platforms, including government office--but under his editorship the Weekly Standard managed to be lively and interesting on a regular basis. By his own account, Kristol is the sort of person who browses through a used bookstore at the Milwaukee airport while waiting for a plane and picks up an old edition of Orwell's essays.

Read Packer's entire (link-heavy) critique here.

Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of ...
Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of ...
 
Comments
231
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Next › Last » (12 pages total)
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 189 fans permalink
photo

Kristol knows very well the NYT wants him out otherwise he wouldn't have made that statement. Now he can go up to the Yukon and sit in some igloo and write Sarah Palin's political treatise--a page of recipes for snickerdoodles and crow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 11/18/2008

My hope is that the NY Times finds a real, effective, moving, persuasive conservative voice to feature on their opinion page. Kristol ain't it. I am a hard-core liberal who craves to hear the conservative voice expressed in an intelligent way... in a way that makes me question how I think and in a way that helps me balance the way I approach political dialogue. Kristol ain't it. Cummon, NY Times!!! Challenge me and challenge yourself... find a smart conservative voice for heaven's sake!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 11/18/2008
- instarx I'm a Fan of instarx 21 fans permalink
photo

That's easier said than done. That's no joke. All the intelligensia of the conservative movement are gone. There hasn't been a new idea in the Republican party for ten years, nor in the conservative movement for at least as long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 11/19/2008
- Perla I'm a Fan of Perla 2 fans permalink
photo

Maybe he can get a job with the Anchorage Daily News op-ed page. That way he could stay close to Palin and help her cultivate herself for 2012. He's her biggest East Coast fan, after all, and on his worst day he can write a complete (if uninteresting) sentence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 11/18/2008

and they could 'do lunch' from time to time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 11/18/2008
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 189 fans permalink
photo

... And they can watch Russia from her porch and talk about her expertise in international affairs. You betcha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 11/18/2008
- Gib I'm a Fan of Gib 28 fans permalink

When he says he's ambivalent, he means he's not sure whether or not he's about to get the boot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 11/18/2008
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 189 fans permalink
photo

Or come out of the closet :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 11/18/2008
- CBS I'm a Fan of CBS 18 fans permalink
photo

I am not ambivalent. It was a mistake to hire him in the first place. With the Obama administration playing chess his checkers analysis of politics is totally irrelevant. NYT can throw him under the bus

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 11/18/2008
- jeanrenoir I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir 132 fans permalink

All of us should advocate a scorched-earth policy towards neocons in general. Their views and dumb "planning" led to the debacle in Iraq, and now they want to destroy the world economy by bombing Iran, These people are the worst menace ever to have foreign policy power in DC. One hundred thousand people have died needlessly in Iraq because of them, and Kristol has been one of their main apologists. Brooks is more than adequate as a conservative voice of reason for the paper. And Friedman strongly advocated the war in Iraq, for reasons which turned out to be dead wrong, but at least seemed rational at the time. So there' s plenty of de facto advocacy for conservative policies at the Times already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 11/18/2008
- bobofish I'm a Fan of bobofish 5 fans permalink

Could I volunteer to drive that bus?
That guy and his asinine perma-smirk really get to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 11/19/2008

Bill is confused again. He misused the word "ambivalent."

am·biv·a·lent (adj.)
1: simultaneous and contradictory attitudes or feelings (as attraction and repulsion) toward an object, person, or action
2 a: continual fluctuation (as between one thing and its opposite) b: uncertainty as to which approach to follow

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 11/18/2008

How will this country survive without Bill Kristol? He was chief of staff for the tower of intellect disco Dan Quayle as Veep. Maybe the Times will get Sean Hannity to replace Kristol; every newspaper needs comedy relief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 11/18/2008
- SlithyTove I'm a Fan of SlithyTove 11 fans permalink

Classic Kristol prevarication:

1. "I don't THINK I've had that conversation yet"
The Times column legitimizes Kristol and gives him exposure and leverage he would not otherwise have. The Times column and its fate has likely been front and center in his mind. You can bet your last hamantasch he KNOWS whether or not he had 'that conversation'.

2. It's the old, "You can't fire me, I quit!" positioning to make you think it was HIS idea to leave.
Not that this shop-soiled pundit has much of a face left to save.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 11/18/2008
- bobofish I'm a Fan of bobofish 5 fans permalink

I think you nailed it.

I think by the time Kristol started badmouthing the Times a few weeks ago (in earnest) he already knew the lay of the land.

I would hope that the Times' editorial staff made it clear to him that while the paper may have some problems and deep-seated identity and insecurity issues, it is not a flat-out propaganda rag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 11/19/2008
- smilodon1 I'm a Fan of smilodon1 7 fans permalink
photo

Don't hesitate! Leave!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 11/18/2008
- 6bd I'm a Fan of 6bd 10 fans permalink

E. D. Hill will be free also........it's not so bad Bill. Accuracy is important you see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 11/18/2008
- mizerello I'm a Fan of mizerello 35 fans permalink

He's already been asked to leave. His column was a joke. The comments for his columns were all the same; this guy's an idiot and couldn't write himself out of a box if he had to. If he was literate and had some genuine ideas, even if I disagreed with them completely, I would at least respect him. I now know why he served as Dan Quayle's chief of staff--perhaps Gov. Palin could use his services? He seems to have a rather strong fondness for her?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 11/18/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 182 fans permalink

Take a hike! Go drool over Scarah somewhere else. You will NOT be missed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 11/18/2008

You know Bill, we could use some help up here - Piper is way behind in her classes and I know Bristol would benefit from book learnin'. I can teach about babies and you know the things a girl becoming a woman needs to know. But, I'd sure like some help on that "bringing me up to speed" and book writin' I'll be doing over the next couple of years. I think you'd love Wasila - we've got all kinds of books in our library. And, don'cha know that Amazon and all them companies ship Fed Ex and such up here? Why, you may like us so much, you'll never leave. Never. NEVER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 11/18/2008
- CalliDem I'm a Fan of CalliDem 8 fans permalink

Good Riddance ...can't stand your right wing blathering another single minute anyway

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 11/18/2008
- Egalitare I'm a Fan of Egalitare 6 fans permalink
photo

Seeeeyaaahhh!

Wouldn't wanna be yah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 11/18/2008
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Next › Last » (12 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect