Bill Kristol "Ambivalent" About Staying At New York Times

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Huffington Post   |   November 18, 2008 03:31 PM

Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of his New York Times column, which is rumored to be ending when his contract expires next month, and Kristol said he was "ambivalent" about staying on:

"I don't think I've had that conversation yet," he told me.


Okay -- but would he like to have it renewed? "I'm ambivalent. It's been fun. It's a lot of work. I have a lot of things going on. But I haven't really focused on it."


Kristol said he planned to talk to Andy Rosenthal, the Times's editorial-page editor, "soon."

The Huffington Post broke the news last year that Kristol was hired for the Times gig.

The New Yorker's George Packer weighed in this week on the topic of whether Kristol should stay at the Times — in a scathing critique, Packer argues strongly that Kristol's contract with the Times should not be renewed:

It's time for the newspaper to move on. For Pinch Sulzberger and Andy Rosenthal to renew Kristol's one-year contract, in 2009, would be for the Times to reward failure--and look where that got Wall Street and General Motors. It's not just that Kristol isn't another Safire (although an absence of verbal playfulness and wit is a consistent hallmark of the Kristol prose style). It's not just that his views are utterly predictable (if that were firing grounds, close to half the Times columnists would lose their jobs). It's not just that he was fundamentally wrong at least every other week throughout the year (misattributing a quote in his first column, counting Clinton out after Iowa, placing Obama at a Jeremiah Wright sermon that Obama didn't attend, predicting the imminent return of a McCain adviser named Mike Murphy who ended up staying off the campaign, all but predicting a McCain victory, sort of predicting that McCain would oppose the bailout, praising McCain's "suspension" of his campaign as a smart move, preferring fake populism to professional excellence and Joe the Plumber to Horace the Poet, urging Ayers-Wright attack tactics as the way for McCain to win, basically telling McCain to ignore all the advice Kristol had given him throughout the year, but above all, vouching again and again and again, privately and publicly, for Palin as an excellent Vice-Presidential choice). What the hell--it was an unpredictable year.


The real grounds for firing Kristol are that he didn't take his column seriously. In his year on the Op-Ed page, not one memorable sentence, not one provocative thought, not one valuable piece of information appeared under his name. The prose was so limp ("Who, inquiring minds want to know, is going to spare us a first Obama term?") that you had the sense Kristol wrote his column during the commercial breaks of his gig on Fox News Sunday and gave it about the same amount of thought.


In one sense, this mental shallowness and literary poverty come as a surprise from the son of Irving Kristol and Gertrude Himmelfarb, the student of Harvey C. Mansfield, the devotee of Leo Strauss, and the colleague of Robert Kagan, David Brooks, et al. Kristol was never an intellectual--he's always been a Republican strategist with various public platforms, including government office--but under his editorship the Weekly Standard managed to be lively and interesting on a regular basis. By his own account, Kristol is the sort of person who browses through a used bookstore at the Milwaukee airport while waiting for a plane and picks up an old edition of Orwell's essays.

Read Packer's entire (link-heavy) critique here.

Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of ...
Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of ...
 
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- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 69 fans permalink

I would think The Times is ambivalent about the shrew staying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 11/18/2008
- MissKaren I'm a Fan of MissKaren 43 fans permalink

I made a lot of noise to the editor and publisher when he was signed up. I hope he leaves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 11/18/2008
- RussellH I'm a Fan of RussellH 2 fans permalink

Bill Kristol's column is anathem to long-time Times readers. He is flip but unconvincing, and should he leave whether fired or he resigns, perhaps he will enroll in a course in Aristotelian logic. (This is an area where neocons' education is sorely lacking!) His columns are tiresome because they simply represent tired nostrums from the far right. While David Brooks' columns are simply missable, Kristol's can be laughable. I always wish, while reading him, that I could have some chat with him. But I am convinced that logic is not within his ken. A daddy;s-boy who should have learned from other adults about the world and about American democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 11/18/2008
- Roxanna I'm a Fan of Roxanna 31 fans permalink

Glad to hear he is ambivalent­... lets hope he leaves !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 11/18/2008
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Fine, he has become a partisan hack and was the biggest cheerleader of all for Palin as VP. I have no faith in his opinion and I think his divisiveness can only hurt the nation at a time like this. Let's have the old NYT back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 11/18/2008
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After he gets booted from the Times, he should go to Baghdad and hang out with all the Iraqis who, he seems to believe, are so grateful to the US for waging war on them.

If he's not feeling too modest, he should even let the happy citizens know that he was one of the major instigators and champions of the war.

I'm sure he'd have a real blast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 11/18/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 167 fans permalink

i hope they physically demonstrate their gratitute to him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 11/18/2008

It would be tough to find a decent conservative replacement for Kristol -- almost anyone who supported McCain among the commentariat did it without offering compelling reasons. To get someone not empty-headed, but at the same time not have a "did you vote for Obama" litmus test (i.e. not Christopher Buckley), the Times would have to look to libertarians or maybe even to social conservatives who didn't vote McCain. It's not the easiest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 11/18/2008

Andrew Sullivan or Chris Buckley would do a better job than Kristol. Both are conservatives who are willing to stand against their party and to tell it like it is. Sullivan, in particular, has shown a strong independent streak and has supported both Obama in 2008 and Kerry in 2004.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 11/18/2008

Right - I just meant that the Times, when it picks its new columnist, is probably not going to want to look like they imposed a test on their conservative picks that says they have to have voted for Obama. They have little enough cred with conservatives as it is (granted, the point of their having a conservative columnist at this point is just to expose liberals to other ideas -- so maybe buckley or sullivan would be a good choice).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 11/19/2008
- MrsPeel I'm a Fan of MrsPeel 46 fans permalink
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David Frum's available now that he, too, left The National Review.

However, I don't think there's anything wrong with Buckley just because he voted for Obama. He has impeccable conservative credentials, as well as critical thinking -- which is he didn't vote for McCain/Palin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 11/18/2008
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 255 fans permalink

It would be tough to find a decent conservative, period. But that isn't the Times' fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 11/18/2008
- Pronto I'm a Fan of Pronto 32 fans permalink

So George Packer doesn't like Krystol. THAT'S why his contact should not be renewed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 11/18/2008
- donbrown I'm a Fan of donbrown 67 fans permalink
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He's truly worthless.­..and consistently wrong. Good riddance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 11/18/2008
- Sardonica I'm a Fan of Sardonica 93 fans permalink
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If he's canvassing for public opinion, I'd like to be counted amongst those who want him to GET THE HELL OUT OF THE NYT!!!! His last 4 or 5 columns made me despise him not just as a political adversary - but as a human being. He's a vile little man who'd sell his own country out to retain power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 11/18/2008
- NancyCinNY I'm a Fan of NancyCinNY 2 fans permalink

By Bill.. don't let the door hit you on the way out. No one is reading your drivel - we skip over it and go to the "good parts" of the Times..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 11/18/2008
- Candyx I'm a Fan of Candyx 6 fans permalink

there is someone else to take his place.....­......star­t looking for them now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 11/18/2008

Krist.ol re.mains one of the most inf.uria.t­ing d.bag.s. he on.ly want sit on sa.rah fa.ce

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 11/18/2008
- nana4g I'm a Fan of nana4g 105 fans permalink

Good ridance! Make him a professional vetter....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 11/18/2008
- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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You know, I can almost see him in as Brown Shirt, or in a Waffen SS uniform...­.. along with the rest of the PNAC crowd....
And yes, he has been on the wrong side of everything throughout­.... not like getting rid of him will help the NYT that much but he's got to be about as useful as teats on a boar to them....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 11/18/2008
- Heaphy I'm a Fan of Heaphy 17 fans permalink
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Certainly it is possible to be disgusted and disappointed with Bill Kristol, and to disagree with him profoundly, and even to wish that the New York Times does not extend his contract, without equating him to a Nazi thug?

- Jim Heaphy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 11/18/2008

The whole neocon PNAC cabal, that have run the Bush foreign policies for the last 8 years, are still shilling their domination of world resources garbage on cable news and MSM. It won't stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 11/18/2008
- S-Jane I'm a Fan of S-Jane 2 fans permalink
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How are you "ambivalent" about staying on if your contract isn't going to be renewed? The latter negates the former, no?

I'm sure he'll join Faux News as an "expert" on one of their gossip--err, I mean, discussion panels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 11/18/2008

Good Grief! Kristol is a poop stain that should have been flushed down the toilet long ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 11/18/2008
- MPeter I'm a Fan of MPeter 25 fans permalink

Kristol is not particularly smart or interesting to read. He is only prominent because his father was prominent, much like GW. He found fame because of his birth, not capability. Yet he goes on air and waxes about those who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. Kristol should go. He is an intellectual midget who feeds on division.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 11/18/2008
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