Bill Kristol "Ambivalent" About Staying At New York Times

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Huffington Post   |   November 18, 2008 03:31 PM

Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of his New York Times column, which is rumored to be ending when his contract expires next month, and Kristol said he was "ambivalent" about staying on:

"I don't think I've had that conversation yet," he told me.


Okay -- but would he like to have it renewed? "I'm ambivalent. It's been fun. It's a lot of work. I have a lot of things going on. But I haven't really focused on it."


Kristol said he planned to talk to Andy Rosenthal, the Times's editorial-page editor, "soon."

The Huffington Post broke the news last year that Kristol was hired for the Times gig.

The New Yorker's George Packer weighed in this week on the topic of whether Kristol should stay at the Times — in a scathing critique, Packer argues strongly that Kristol's contract with the Times should not be renewed:

It's time for the newspaper to move on. For Pinch Sulzberger and Andy Rosenthal to renew Kristol's one-year contract, in 2009, would be for the Times to reward failure--and look where that got Wall Street and General Motors. It's not just that Kristol isn't another Safire (although an absence of verbal playfulness and wit is a consistent hallmark of the Kristol prose style). It's not just that his views are utterly predictable (if that were firing grounds, close to half the Times columnists would lose their jobs). It's not just that he was fundamentally wrong at least every other week throughout the year (misattributing a quote in his first column, counting Clinton out after Iowa, placing Obama at a Jeremiah Wright sermon that Obama didn't attend, predicting the imminent return of a McCain adviser named Mike Murphy who ended up staying off the campaign, all but predicting a McCain victory, sort of predicting that McCain would oppose the bailout, praising McCain's "suspension" of his campaign as a smart move, preferring fake populism to professional excellence and Joe the Plumber to Horace the Poet, urging Ayers-Wright attack tactics as the way for McCain to win, basically telling McCain to ignore all the advice Kristol had given him throughout the year, but above all, vouching again and again and again, privately and publicly, for Palin as an excellent Vice-Presidential choice). What the hell--it was an unpredictable year.


The real grounds for firing Kristol are that he didn't take his column seriously. In his year on the Op-Ed page, not one memorable sentence, not one provocative thought, not one valuable piece of information appeared under his name. The prose was so limp ("Who, inquiring minds want to know, is going to spare us a first Obama term?") that you had the sense Kristol wrote his column during the commercial breaks of his gig on Fox News Sunday and gave it about the same amount of thought.


In one sense, this mental shallowness and literary poverty come as a surprise from the son of Irving Kristol and Gertrude Himmelfarb, the student of Harvey C. Mansfield, the devotee of Leo Strauss, and the colleague of Robert Kagan, David Brooks, et al. Kristol was never an intellectual--he's always been a Republican strategist with various public platforms, including government office--but under his editorship the Weekly Standard managed to be lively and interesting on a regular basis. By his own account, Kristol is the sort of person who browses through a used bookstore at the Milwaukee airport while waiting for a plane and picks up an old edition of Orwell's essays.

Read Packer's entire (link-heavy) critique here.

Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of ...
Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici spoke to Bill Kristol at a luncheon Tuesday to promote IFC's The IFC Media Project (video of the luncheon to come shortly). Bercovici asked Kristol about the status of ...
 
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- marijam I'm a Fan of marijam 38 fans permalink
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He should go work for the Wall Street Journal, where he'll fit in with the rest of the dinosaurs and Masters of the Universe who thought they knew it all and led us down the path to financial ruin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 11/18/2008

let's hope he leaves The Times and leaves the country

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 11/18/2008
- bujeeboo I'm a Fan of bujeeboo 6 fans permalink

Let's make it easier for you, Bill.

We won't read your garbage and it won't matter what you do. Deal??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 11/18/2008
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Not surprised that Kristol is not deep as a puddle - he comes off glib and a bit or more spoiled/preppy.

From the article:

"The degeneration of the conservative movement from William F. Buckley and Milton Friedman to Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin is a subject...."

It would see that the Republicans have been hoist on their own petard; in courting their "base", which in this case means the mythic-mem­bership-ra­tional conscious level religious chauvinistic wing of the party, they've been dragged down there, despite and because of the greedy vapidity of nonconservative ideas, of which Kristol would see to be just windy expounder of its outdated, destructive, and ultimately regressive­/reactiona­ry ideas.

There are "two" Repub. parties, and "two" Dem. parties:

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http://integrallife.com/node/15724

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 11/18/2008

Great, because the moment that Kristol is no longer a columnist for the New York Times is the moment I will subscribe to the Times again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 11/18/2008
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how come you dont like to read stuff with which you dont agree?........I love that. I love to read all points of view. it keeps me sharp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 11/18/2008
- gd7277467 I'm a Fan of gd7277467 8 fans permalink
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No Billy, "ambivalent" is not the word !

The Times told you to hit-the-road !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 11/18/2008
- racom I'm a Fan of racom 3 fans permalink

Please Bill, do your part to save the NYT, LEAVE NOW!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 11/18/2008
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 47 fans permalink

It's a bit late to save the NYT. Pooch Sulzberger is shopping the NYT to Sam Zell. Not so handy Andy is shopping the NYT's real estate to everybody else. The NYT will go on as the LI/WESTCHESTER SHOPPER. Gannett will print the various editions of the LI/W SHOPPER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 11/18/2008

Did he mean he doesn't focus when he writes his column or renewing the deal? I guess I'm just also too ambivalent to care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 11/18/2008

You can walk to the curb from here, Kristol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 11/18/2008
- SecondBase I'm a Fan of SecondBase 33 fans permalink
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On the other hand... neocons like Kristol do the most damage when they are out of public view and left to fester behind closed doors, with their own kind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 11/18/2008
- Bluedog12 I'm a Fan of Bluedog12 14 fans permalink

Bill don't sweat it you'll continue to be greeted as a liberator at the Times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 11/18/2008
- Fremon I'm a Fan of Fremon 31 fans permalink

Why was he there in the first place? The NYT is not his natural right wing audience which has an appetite for Libaugh type garbage and he is not intellectual enough to be thought provoking to a thinking audience on either side of politcal spectrum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 11/18/2008
- JohnPone I'm a Fan of JohnPone 12 fans permalink
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Which is another way of saying the Times has already told him he's out the door.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 11/18/2008

he should be let go for the ultimate crime; he is not a even a GOOD writer. if he wasn't him, he would never have made it past the receptionist in the lobby for an interview. since when does fame override bad chops.
all the other reasons stated for not renewing billy kristol's column by mr. packer, of course, are sufficient ones
oh; he left out boring, so i thought i'd add it to the list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 11/18/2008

Kristol should use his time away from the NY times to take a journalism course.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 11/18/2008
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