Hagel, Unrestrained, Lashes Into Bush, Rush And The GOP

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First Posted: 11-18-08 11:18 AM   |   Updated: 12-19-08 05:12 AM

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Two months before he leaves office, Sen. Chuck Hagel is increasingly unrestrained by political niceties.

Appearing at a forum at the Johns Hopkins School of Advances International Studies, the outgoing Nebraska Republican leveled harsh criticism at his own party, the lack of intellectual curiosity among some of his colleagues, the Bush administration's handling of nearly every aspect of governance and -- perhaps most bitingly -- the conservative radio voices that often dictate the GOP agenda.

"We are educated by the great entertainers like Rush Limbaugh," said Hagel, sarcastically referencing the talk radio host who once called him "Senator Betrayus." "You know, I wish Rush Limbaugh and others like that would run for office. They have so much to contribute and so much leadership and they have an answer for everything. And they would be elected overwhelmingly," he offered. "[The truth is] they try to rip everyone down and make fools of everybody but they don't have any answers."

It wasn't all an exercise in unloading pent-up frustrations. Hagel offered praise for Robert Gates -- creating the impression that he would like the current Pentagon chief to remain at the post once President-elect Barack Obama takes office. He also deflected questions about whether he would serve in the Obama administration or what he thought of the possibility of Hillary Clinton at Secretary of State. Moreover, Hagel offered what amounted to an hour-long plea for the next administration and Congress to reconfigure the way it works together and within the international framework when it comes to foreign affairs.

"Eighty-seven percent of the American people said America is going in the wrong direction," said Hagel. "You don't need to know another number about anything, and so the election was pretty predictable: the American people don't like what is going on... they want us to start doing what leaders are expected to do, address the problems, find some consensus to governing. Get along. There will be disagreements, sure... but in the end we can't hold ourselves captives to this raw, partisan, political paralysis."

But the truly memorable bits came when -- unrestrained by formalities -- he deployed a sharp tongue while riffing on the GOP. Reflecting on the Bush administration, Hagel, one of the earliest critics of the Iraq war, held back few punches.

"Yes, there have been some differences and some pretty significant ones in [the Republican Party]. But when you ask the question: 'Has [our approach] worked? I don't think many people will say it has worked," he said, adding later: "God knows I would never question the quality of our elected officials, that's why I'm so popular with many of them."

The main thrust of his critiques was aimed not at any individual specifically, but at a closed-off mindset that he believed had taken hold of Republican politics and, consequently, the GOP's approach to foreign policy. "Engagement is not appeasement," he said. "Diplomacy is not retreat. Somehow too many in this town and in this country have disconnected all of that."

Later in the question-and-answer session, he offered an example to illustrate this quip, gently mocking those officials and voters who, for one reason or another, had problems with things from France or people who were Muslim.

"There is always going to be a certain know-nothing element to democracy," said Hagel. "That is their choice. But in a world that is so vitally interconnected, it does help if you try to understand the other side... Ask them: 'What is it that scares you about the French so much?'"

There were, additionally, some compliments to spare. Hagel, on several occasions, lauded the work and approach of Gates, who he said had taken the right ethos to the job at Defense. Finally, he offered a sincerely funny line about Warren Buffet, the heralded financier, Oracle from Omaha and (seemingly) one individual to have weathered the current financial market meltdown.

There is news today that [Obama] is in serious negotiations with Warren Buffet for Buffet to buy the entire United States government," Hagel joked in the opening of his speech. "I applaud that. I am seeking the job of buffet's driver. He is the only one who has money. Obviously we think highly of warren and we take great pride that he is a cornhusker."

Two months before he leaves office, Sen. Chuck Hagel is increasingly unrestrained by political niceties. Appearing at a forum at the Johns Hopkins School of Advances International Studies, the outgoi...
Two months before he leaves office, Sen. Chuck Hagel is increasingly unrestrained by political niceties. Appearing at a forum at the Johns Hopkins School of Advances International Studies, the outgoi...
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- balrog221 I'm a Fan of balrog221 21 fans permalink
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Thanks to Chuck for that analysis. It should be obvious to all... but it sure helps to hear it from him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 11/24/2008

'What is it that scares you about the French so much?'

Why do we hate the French? Perhaps we hate them for their FREEDOM from all the OUT-OF-POCKET costs of LIVING ... all the STRESSES & STRUGGLES that "married with children" in AMERICA must endure...

child care
health care
college

The French don't complain about the "taxes" they pay ... because they actually get something for it. (We can't get a pothole fixed ... but our "Christians" in charge can certainly find the funds to fight ENDLESS WARS!?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 11/22/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Anybody with half a brain does not HATE the French. And those who do just don't want the truth to come out, that's all. The French are smart people and makes our government look like dummies during the Bush years of mayhem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 11/22/2008

Ummm, Hello . . .!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 11/22/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 45 fans permalink
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Hagel makes an interesting and important point: Limbaugh and the other right-wing screamers started out being the servants of the Republican Party but ended up being its masters. Instead of selling the "base" on Republican policies, the screamers are now telling the "base" what to believe and in effect dictating positions and policies to the party. And those positions and policies are increasingly radical, bizarre, crazy, and out of the mainstream of American opinion. The result was the disastrous McCain campaign, which pandered to the delusional dittoheads and by doing so alienated vast numbers of moderate Republicans and independents.

Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter, Hannity, Savage etc. are NOT the future of the Republican Party, and if the party is to have any future it needs to repudiate them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 11/22/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

They will eventually repudiate each other because the way this country is going to change will push them into a category where no one will want to be but them. They will nurture their own festering sores and direct their potty mouths to each other in the end. Mark my words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 11/22/2008
- balrog221 I'm a Fan of balrog221 21 fans permalink
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Any republican with an open mind who believes in secular liberty has long ago repudiated those narrow minded "pundits'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 11/24/2008

Oreilly, Limbaugh, Ingram, Malkin, Boortz, Hannity to name only a few of the right wings darlings, might be rich, might be less rich as the stock market crashes, one thing you can rest assured, if they had any money in the stock market and the rich usually do, they are less rich, less powerfull, and they are being blamed for the debacle of the republican party, and rightly so, these racist, bigots, hatemongers purveyors of racist rhetoric played the anti-hispanic issue to the hilt, forgetting that in 2004 their messiah Bush won with that 40% of hispanic vote, the intellectuals, elite whom detest but use the right wing talk radio, hatemongers, as they do the dixiecrats they adopted in 1960's realize this was like cutting off ones own nose to spite ones face. I listened today as Laura Ingram was irate at being blamed for the republican debacle! The republican party is splitting, and might never come back together, which is the best thing for demcrats ever, since even though we do not always agree on every issue, we do not eat our own, as the republican right wing nut jobs from the Limbaugh/Oreilly fringe do, and Neal Boortz just recently put his proveribal foot in his mouth on open public airwaves by suggesting a educational test for right to vote, harken back to the old Jim Crow laws, he did this on 11/19/08 Tucson Arizona 104.1 FM radio proof positive they are desperate!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 11/21/2008
- zitlight73 I'm a Fan of zitlight73 37 fans permalink

But if Obama fails to get results in less than four years these jackels will be blaming him for all the finanicial woes, just like the did to Carter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 11/21/2008

"a educational test" should be "an educational test"....you're definately a product of the public education system.

There is no federal constitutional "right to vote". Envoke the old Jim Crow thing if you want...just doesn't wash.

Next?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 11/21/2008
- sportsjefe I'm a Fan of sportsjefe 2 fans permalink
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Hate to do this to you... it's 'invoke' not 'envoke'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 11/21/2008
- Odds I'm a Fan of Odds permalink

Uh... that should be "Invoke", there is no word "Envoke"... and you went to what kind of school?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 11/21/2008
- IHR I'm a Fan of IHR permalink

That is your criticism of leatherneck's comment? So you agree with the rest of his commments. Next

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 11/22/2008
- Heru1 I'm a Fan of Heru1 24 fans permalink
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the word is "definitely" not "definately"

Public school alumnus

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 11/22/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 59 fans permalink

Definitely has no "a" in it. Invoke only had one "e" at the end. I can proudly state that I AM a product of a public school education. What home school or private school did you go to? Your folks should sue them for not educating YOU!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 11/22/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Excellent post. No matter what the naysayers say, you spoke your mind and you are right. Thank you for your comments. I hope the haters learn how to control themselves but I doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 11/22/2008
- lstl4 I'm a Fan of lstl4 5 fans permalink

Obama would be wise to give him a cabinet post. Sounds like Hagel's republican mind finally came to its senses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 11/21/2008
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chuck hagel, the republican version of
joe lieberman. both "men" are pathetic

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 11/21/2008

one of the stupidest comments i've read all week. thanks for lowering the bar. huzzah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 11/21/2008

Instead of calling Hagel "pathetic," you should be mourning the loss of an intelligent, sensible, leader. God knows the GOP has precious little of them.

I'm sorry that he was a casualty of the Anti-Bush-­Cheney-win­gnut-Repub­lican sentiment that underscored the 2008 elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 11/21/2008
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Ditto. Although we'd have MUCH to disagree on, I have a lot of respect for Sen. Hagel as being one of the few GOPers brave enough to stand up to the fringe and say, "this is wrong." He's a smart guy who hasn't sold his soul to an ideology--he actually wants solve problems. NE is losing a good senator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 11/22/2008
- IHR I'm a Fan of IHR permalink

The Republicans would serve themselves well if they acted more like Hagel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 11/22/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

You don't know what you are talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 11/22/2008

The opportunity for affecting policy to discourage this terrible type of programming is to push for a news quality rating system with on-air content labeling. The CeaseSPIN solution is viewed by many as the best alternative to the Fairness Doctrine.

CeaseSPIN.org has an FCC petition and more information describing the proposal. There is also a template letter that can be used to write congress...

Support it. Write Congress. Spread the word.

learn more at http://www.FixNewsNow.org or http://www.ceasespin.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 11/21/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 130 fans permalink

The American people haven't left the GOP, the GOP has left the American people. This is not the party of my youth. That party had room for intellectuals of all stripes. Today's GOP is a collection of right-wing and fundamentalist nutters, salted with corrupt incompetents. Good riddance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 AM on 11/21/2008

Take hagel and mccain. - radicals can have the rest of the losers and finish taking America down with them.

They will get deleted with the rest of the radicals with the REAL AMERICANS get tired of getting screwed in 4 years

enjoy chuckie - and take juan with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 11/21/2008
- IHR I'm a Fan of IHR permalink

In the next 4 years the not real Americans will repair the damage you Real Americans have done to this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 11/22/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Yep, and the real Americans will be looking in the mirror saying "where am I"? ..hahahaha­hehehehehe­.... as the "no real Americans" will be living happily ever after :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 11/22/2008
- Harlemnite I'm a Fan of Harlemnite 2 fans permalink

I sure hope Obama finds a place in his administration for this man. Chuck Hagel is a quality person and it is great to hear someone that doesn't toe the party line. He is dead on about Limbaugh and Hannity. What a great person and I wish him well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 11/21/2008
- forebode I'm a Fan of forebode 4 fans permalink

I have always seen Hagel as a "blue Republican." He actually thinks and reasons rather than thinking about what his Senatorial votes will do for the Republican party. A few months ago, I was with a group of rights protestors in Washington, D.C., and we were passing our newsletters out in the Russell Building where he has his office. Senator Hagel flashed his big smile as he moved on upstairs with his aides right at the security entrance. A woman who was doing Security told us of a time when she was in a car accident in Greece, and hurt badly enough that travel back to the U.S. in an airplane was out of the question by her doctor. Word got to Senator Hagel from the U.S. Embassy in Greece, and he greased the rails to get her back home to the U.S.A. to get subsequent medical treatment. She was not from Nebraska, just simply Russell building security staff. That is probably one of the many examples of what this kind man has done for people. And no, I am not a Nebraskan. I live in the neighboring state to the south, known as Kansas. Nebraska is very fortunate to have Hagel as a Senator. By the way, he is a very good friend of Obama's select for V.P., Joe Biden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 11/21/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 59 fans permalink

However, with few exceptions, his voting record is not that different than those our own Pat Roberts or Sam Brownback have. The only major difference is on his war stance. He just comes off more reasonable, decent , thoughtful and civil than the majority of his Republican peers so we think he is more "blue" than he really is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 11/22/2008
- SOLERSO68 I'm a Fan of SOLERSO68 36 fans permalink
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"hagel called sen betrayus" by limbaugh. wow that rush is quite a wordsmith. Even though hagel dosent rhyme with "betrayus" which was first used as a pun for gen petreus, by move on. some other subtle limbaugh language pearls are "slick willie" (also not original) " and "OINK OINK.!!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 11/20/2008

I mean this man is full of honor, courage and worthiness to be in the Senate. I really really hope Obama finds place for him in this adminstration even before any of the Clinton cronies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 11/20/2008

Where will Obama position Senator Chuck Hagel, Governor Bill Richardson and Senator Claire McCaskill?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 11/20/2008

Please, please, please, give Chuck a job soon! His wife endorsed Obama and he is sick of his party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 11/20/2008
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