Lieberman Keeps Committee Chair In Senate Vote

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ANDREW TAYLOR | November 18, 2008 03:23 PM EST | AP

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Sen. Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., is questioned by reporters as he walks to the Old Senate Chamber on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2008, where his colleagues will vote on party leadership and other matters. (AP Photo/Lauren Victoria Burke)

WASHINGTON — Sen. Joe Lieberman will keep his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security Committee despite hard feelings over his support for GOP nominee John McCain during the presidential campaign.

The Connecticut independent will lose a panel post on the Environment and Public Works panel as punishment for criticizing Obama this fall.

Lieberman's colleagues in the Democratic caucus voted 42-13 Tuesday to approve a resolution condemning statements made by Lieberman during the campaign but allowing him to keep the Homeland Security Committee gavel.

Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he had been very angry by Lieberman's actions but that "we're looking forward, we're not looking back."

Added Reid: "This was not a time for retribution, it was a time for moving forward on the problems of this country."

Lieberman's grasp on his chairmanship had gotten stronger since President-elect Barack Obama signaled to Democratic leaders that he's not interested in punishing Lieberman for boosting McCain and criticizing Obama during the long campaign.

"This is the beginning of a new chapter, and I know that my colleagues in the Senate Democratic Caucus were moved not only by the kind words that Senator Reid said about my longtime record, but by the appeal from President-elect Obama himself that the nation now unite to confront our very serious problems," Lieberman said after the vote.

Anger toward Lieberman seems to have softened since Election Day, and Democrats didn't want to drive him from the Democratic caucus by taking away his chairmanship and send the wrong signals as Obama takes office on a pledge to unite the country. Lieberman had indicated it would be unacceptable for him to lose his chairmanship.

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Lieberman, who was Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore's running mate in 2000, was re-elected in 2006 as an independent after losing his state's Democratic primary to Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont amid intense anti-war sentiment. Lieberman is a strong supporter of the war.

He remains a registered Democrat and aligns with the party inside the Senate, where he supports the party position on most issues other the war.

But Lieberman angered colleagues in signing onto McCain's campaign, touring the country on McCain's campaign plane and speaking on his behalf at the GOP convention in September. Democrats were particularly upset that he had attacked Obama rather than simply saying positive things about McCain.

"There are some (statements) that I made that I wish I had not," Lieberman told reporters. "In the heat of campaigns, that happens to all of us, but I regret that. And now it's time to move on."

"It's time to unite our country," said Lieberman supporter Ken Salazar, D-Colo., said entering the meeting. Salazar and Lieberman's homestate colleague Christopher Dodd led

Salazar added afterwards: "It was very clear people want Senator Lieberman to be part of the caucus."

On the other side were senators who feel that one requirement to be installed in a leadership position is party loyalty.

Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., Pat Leahy, D-Vt., and Senator-elect Jeff Merkeley, D-Ore., spoke against allowing Lieberman keep the Homeland Security and Government Affairs post. Reid, Majority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and John Kerry, D-Mass., were among those speaking in his favor, according to a Democratic aide requiring anonymity to discuss a private meeting.

Some, like Iowan Tom Harkin, still harbor hard feelings for statements Lieberman made during the campaign. Harkin took particular offense when Lieberman said a vote against funding the war in Iraq without a deadline for a troop withdrawal meant Obama had voted to cut off funding for troops in harm's way.

"That's outrageous what he said," Harkin said.

WASHINGTON — Sen. Joe Lieberman will keep his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security Committee despite hard feelings over his support for GOP nominee John McCain during the presidential ca...
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- Madmac I'm a Fan of Madmac 17 fans permalink
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Since the Senate Dems didn't have the guts to do it. (I'm still torn about it, rational mind vs James Brown Payback) here's how you take him down. In 2010 you beat a very popular governor. Once then maybe they'll be enough progressives in the senate to kick him out once and for all. Maybe he'll "officially" be a neocon or just simply retire, either way he's not long for his seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 11/18/2008

lieberman IS a scum bag. make no mistake. he blackmailed his party.."gi­ve me what I want or I'll join and vote with the republicans". On foreign policy and other issues - he already votes with the republicans. I understand what the democrats did..and President Obama allowed...­..

I can only hope the voters of Connecticut take care of this mess in 2010.

I would've still voted lieberman OUT....lik­e Sen. Bernie Sanders advocated.­...ah well......­.NED LAMONT 2010!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 11/18/2008
- suemag I'm a Fan of suemag 9 fans permalink
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Unfortunately, we have to wait until 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 11/18/2008
- ctman47 I'm a Fan of ctman47 70 fans permalink
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Time to start organizing the Netroots to find a new Majority Leader that will implement the changes we want

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 11/18/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 63 fans permalink
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Just how do you propose to get anything done without the maximum number of Dem senators we can get? As it stands now we have 58 with two pending. There may be a couple of repugs who will vote with Dems on certain issues. Without L!eberman the chances of getting anything passed in the senate is nil to none.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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I knew when Japeto carved little Joe out of wormwood, we'd have a problem. Looks like he finally got that nose growing thing under control. Great, now we can't tell if he's lying unless he opens his damned mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 11/18/2008
- trendier I'm a Fan of trendier 2 fans permalink

Typical! I am dissapointed as always but never surprised.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 11/18/2008
- sepiasiren I'm a Fan of sepiasiren 122 fans permalink
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How is his typical--typical would be to get revenge--this is atypical..­.

I mean--we are pissed off that the senate and Obama didn't pull a PALIN and throw weight around because they were pissed off? Are you kidding me???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 11/19/2008
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I wonder if Joe the PUTZ understands that forgiveness is a Christian thing?

We need to UNITE. No problem.

Just asking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 11/18/2008

It's all about the votes necessary to get things passed, and i'm cool with that . The GOP will not go quietly into the night. They will obstruct whenever possible. Ruthless pragmatism with an intelligent humanistic bent is all the change I need in an administration. RFK for all his genuine compassion for the poor, and downtrodden was well known in political circles for his ruthlessness. That's been well documented. Punishing Lieberman as some display of political revenge, to quote "send a message" would be a continuation of the petty conventional politics that I disdain, that have proven so ineffective at addressing the serious issues confronting America. I've seen forty years of crappy presidents--with Clinton being the best of a bad lot. For me, the big picture is all that counts and it's obvious President-elect Obama is on a mission to get things done. That's job one.

If Obama listened to all the pundits, media strategists, bloggers, columinists and political junkies, he wouldn't be where he is today. He ran and won on his intellect, judgement and vision. He can appoint whoever he wants, and pursue his agenda any way he sees fit in my book. He doesn't have to please me, but he does have to produce. I'll only judge President Obama on the results of his decisions and policies. Nothing else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Carter was the last True Blue President. Bill was Neocon Lite (less filling, just as repulsive).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 11/18/2008

They have to do several things when the Senate session starts: They want to push through a ton of new legislation for one and they are going to need Lieberman's vote. I'd bet the Democratic leadership let him know just how much rope he has and that by not stripping him publicly of power, let him know clearly how much his carcass owes them. Don't think he can't be stripped of that chair in a heartbeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 11/18/2008
- Beninn I'm a Fan of Beninn 33 fans permalink
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Lieberman won't be stripped of that chair by Democrats.

To oust a chairman of a committee takes 2/3rds vote of the entire Senate. That means that Joe Lieberman doesn't have to keep Democrats happy now that he's in. He only has to keep Republicans happy in order to prevent Democrats from trying to oust him.

Republicans aren't about to cross party lines to vote with Democrats to vote Joe out of the chairmanship if he makes a deal to make it worth their while. We sure know that Republicans are disciplined and tow the party line when ordered to do so. That will be especially necessary with their small numbers in the Senate. All that's left of Republicans in the Senate now are those in safe seats. Republicans' districts won't punish them in the next election for standing up to Democrats.

This is a win all the way around for Lieberman, for Bush and everyone in his administration, and Republicans in general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 11/18/2008
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 39 fans permalink
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you just keep thinkin' that ;) we're already drooling for 2010 & 2012

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 11/18/2008
- sepiasiren I'm a Fan of sepiasiren 122 fans permalink
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Unbelievab­le--weren'­t we all chomping at the bit about Trooper gate and how political arena's shouldn't be used to punish people we dislike and yet we feel as if we should use this same power Palin abused and abuse it ourselves.­..

How is that different?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 11/19/2008
- trendier I'm a Fan of trendier 2 fans permalink

I knew the dems would not quick him out. I asked myself over and over again; Why am I a democrat? They always dissapoint me cause they have no balls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 11/18/2008
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I'm not a democrat but damn I feel the same way you do trendier..­.I didn't think it was possible to be so spineless

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 11/18/2008
- sepiasiren I'm a Fan of sepiasiren 122 fans permalink
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But is displayed balls to go against party sentiments to show the Republicans how to be non partisan and to not us the revenge politics as usual weapons against people who think differently or do things we don't like...

This isn't fifth grade..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 11/19/2008

I don't get it...I don't know how they can trust this guy, he has already proved that he's not a man who keeps his word.

Its only a matter of time before he triple-crosses the Dem's.

What does it say about Lieberman when we see that the only reason he's caucusing with the Dem's is because they have given him(allowed him to keep) a committee chair... it tells me he can be bought and sold ... he's not in this for the people of Connecticu­t... Isn't he is suppose to be representing the people of Connecticut, their views, their values and their best interest but he is not, its all about himself... Joe the traitor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 11/18/2008
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 39 fans permalink
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They don't, it's not like they're leaving their car keys with him unattended :) He's a useful vote on lots of issues and not relevant anymore as a tie-breaker, and if it's true that Obama is going to get rid of Homeland Security, then this is a fangless, impotent critter that showing mercy to allows us to take the high road on lots of stuff later on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 11/18/2008
- Beninn I'm a Fan of Beninn 33 fans permalink
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They hate the left more. They're banking on a power base carved out of the center and the right. A new Democratic Party made up of center-right Democrats and moderate Republicans. They lose the left and the Republican Party becomes the home to extreme right-wingers, fundamentalist Christians, KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, etc.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/11/18/bipartisanship/index.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 11/18/2008
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CT, you are our last hope. Do the right thing in 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 11/18/2008
- hotstuff I'm a Fan of hotstuff 5 fans permalink

By all means keep your enemies close, and make sure they know they owe you big time, and you'd better not step out of line! Obama said it loud and clear, and lieberman got the message!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 11/18/2008

...and if he doesn't? What would Obama do? He has a 26% approval w/ Dems in Conn and 70% w/ GOPers, at the end of the day he's a politician.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 11/18/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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Did he? Really? Funny, I heard absolutely no contrition in Lieberman's voice. On the contrary, he sounded quite empowered and even a bit cocky.

So, in closing, fu*k Joe Lieberman, Harry Reid, the DNC and the DSCC. There will never be another penny from my pocket going to Democratic campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 11/18/2008

Arnold (2010) picked up my vote and support today.I've never voted for a republican in 28 years of voting, until now! I'll never support Boxer or Feinstein again, after the vote today to keep Joe Lieberman
in a position of leadership!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 11/18/2008
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 39 fans permalink
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I would LOVE to see Feinstein bite the dust. I'm all in favor of people supporting moderate Republicans. That doesn't mean we won't kick 'em to the curb if they step outta line. But breaking Feinstein out of her grasp of her Senate seat would be an excellent sign for progressives everywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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She's slated to Chair the Intelligence Committee! (lord, god sheba take her!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yama I'm a Fan of Yama 4 fans permalink
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Holy crap! You just said something sensible!
If you don't mind, I think I'll copy and paste this just in case it never happens again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 11/18/2008

Millionaires look out for millionaires. Don't forget who these people are. Feinstein is one of the wealthiest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 11/18/2008

Both Boxer and Feinstein are among the MOST CORRUPT CRIMINALS in the Congress. They should be kicked out and investigated - they pretty much served nobody but the industry that paid them: Hollywood and the RIAA/MPAA-mob, anyone who paid enough to get them vote against YOUR INTERESTS IN LAWS ABOUT YOUR RIGHTS.

Boxer, Feinstein: two rotten rent-a-lawmaker parasites.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 11/18/2008
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 39 fans permalink
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It's worse. Feinstein is married into the Defense Industrial Complex.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 11/18/2008
- TAIsabel I'm a Fan of TAIsabel 51 fans permalink
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Just hearing this guy's name makes me feel slimy!! He reminds me of a leech that attaches to any warm body in order to feed and live. He is, quite simply, despicable. Please Connecticut, can't you vote this weasel out!!???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 11/18/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 143 fans permalink
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All in good time ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 11/18/2008
- hunterjond I'm a Fan of hunterjond 2 fans permalink
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Unfortunately, not until November 2012. We tried in 2006, but when Lieberman broke his word to abide by the results of the democratic primary and ran as an independent, he was elected by republicans and some democrats (primarily on constituent service). So we're stuck with him until then.
Preston, CT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 11/18/2008

I have started muting everything he says, seriously, if his mouth is moving, do not listen, he's lying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 11/18/2008
- suemag I'm a Fan of suemag 9 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 11/18/2008
- ishok I'm a Fan of ishok 9 fans permalink

Gollum/Sme­agol..."my precious"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 11/18/2008
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