Lieberman Keeps Committee Chair In Senate Vote

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ANDREW TAYLOR | November 18, 2008 03:23 PM EST | AP

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Sen. Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., is questioned by reporters as he walks to the Old Senate Chamber on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2008, where his colleagues will vote on party leadership and other matters. (AP Photo/Lauren Victoria Burke)

WASHINGTON — Sen. Joe Lieberman will keep his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security Committee despite hard feelings over his support for GOP nominee John McCain during the presidential campaign.

The Connecticut independent will lose a panel post on the Environment and Public Works panel as punishment for criticizing Obama this fall.

Lieberman's colleagues in the Democratic caucus voted 42-13 Tuesday to approve a resolution condemning statements made by Lieberman during the campaign but allowing him to keep the Homeland Security Committee gavel.

Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he had been very angry by Lieberman's actions but that "we're looking forward, we're not looking back."

Added Reid: "This was not a time for retribution, it was a time for moving forward on the problems of this country."

Lieberman's grasp on his chairmanship had gotten stronger since President-elect Barack Obama signaled to Democratic leaders that he's not interested in punishing Lieberman for boosting McCain and criticizing Obama during the long campaign.

"This is the beginning of a new chapter, and I know that my colleagues in the Senate Democratic Caucus were moved not only by the kind words that Senator Reid said about my longtime record, but by the appeal from President-elect Obama himself that the nation now unite to confront our very serious problems," Lieberman said after the vote.

Anger toward Lieberman seems to have softened since Election Day, and Democrats didn't want to drive him from the Democratic caucus by taking away his chairmanship and send the wrong signals as Obama takes office on a pledge to unite the country. Lieberman had indicated it would be unacceptable for him to lose his chairmanship.

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Lieberman, who was Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore's running mate in 2000, was re-elected in 2006 as an independent after losing his state's Democratic primary to Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont amid intense anti-war sentiment. Lieberman is a strong supporter of the war.

He remains a registered Democrat and aligns with the party inside the Senate, where he supports the party position on most issues other the war.

But Lieberman angered colleagues in signing onto McCain's campaign, touring the country on McCain's campaign plane and speaking on his behalf at the GOP convention in September. Democrats were particularly upset that he had attacked Obama rather than simply saying positive things about McCain.

"There are some (statements) that I made that I wish I had not," Lieberman told reporters. "In the heat of campaigns, that happens to all of us, but I regret that. And now it's time to move on."

"It's time to unite our country," said Lieberman supporter Ken Salazar, D-Colo., said entering the meeting. Salazar and Lieberman's homestate colleague Christopher Dodd led

Salazar added afterwards: "It was very clear people want Senator Lieberman to be part of the caucus."

On the other side were senators who feel that one requirement to be installed in a leadership position is party loyalty.

Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., Pat Leahy, D-Vt., and Senator-elect Jeff Merkeley, D-Ore., spoke against allowing Lieberman keep the Homeland Security and Government Affairs post. Reid, Majority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and John Kerry, D-Mass., were among those speaking in his favor, according to a Democratic aide requiring anonymity to discuss a private meeting.

Some, like Iowan Tom Harkin, still harbor hard feelings for statements Lieberman made during the campaign. Harkin took particular offense when Lieberman said a vote against funding the war in Iraq without a deadline for a troop withdrawal meant Obama had voted to cut off funding for troops in harm's way.

"That's outrageous what he said," Harkin said.

WASHINGTON — Sen. Joe Lieberman will keep his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security Committee despite hard feelings over his support for GOP nominee John McCain during the presidential ca...
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- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 40 fans permalink
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Yama's profile = hilarious!

a favorite quote (and I quote, because it sounds like your MO, Yama):

"Palin's First Press Conference Cut Short (VIDEO)

No one here seems puzzled. I see over 1,500 derogatory and personally insulting remarks about a honorable woman who ran against your candidate."

Calling Obama a socialist terrorist secret Muslim is honorable? and the comments you are crticizing here are not??? Delusion is not a virtue...

ROTFLMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 11/18/2008
- POTUS2008 I'm a Fan of POTUS2008 7 fans permalink
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I am very happy we keep Joe, even though I did not like his Obama bashing during the election. It shows that the democrats are following Obams led to work with people we don't always agree with, and to focus on the important issue and not be petty, vindictive, and gracious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 11/18/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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It shows they're governing from their outer-adult, not their inner-child !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 11/18/2008

Obama/Hilary/Lieberman: Yes we can - obliterate Iran!

Change you can believe in. Rube.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 11/18/2008
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Change troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 11/18/2008
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Change trolll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 11/18/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 48 fans permalink
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The Democrats will lose more in the long term because of this unprincipled decision!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 11/18/2008
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How so?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 11/18/2008
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

I doubt it. In six months few will remember and even fewer will care. The general public has the attention span of a gnat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 11/18/2008
- super I'm a Fan of super 13 fans permalink
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In six months Joe will be filibustering the Democrats right in the Committee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 11/18/2008
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 40 fans permalink
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Republicans purge and stifle dissent, Democrats encourage it. It isn't always pretty, and sometimes it's pretty darn hard to swallow, BUT do we really want to be the GOP? Those who tried to use their tactics were repudiated this year and, I suspect, for years to come.

This is the bad side of what makes the Democrats great. Acceptable trade off, if you ask me, and the decision is rightfully left to the people of CT. come on CT, do the right thing in 2012!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 11/18/2008

Just wondering if there's anything a Dem can actually do to get booted out of the party?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 11/18/2008
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He's not IN the Party... he's just caucusing with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 11/18/2008
- suemag I'm a Fan of suemag 9 fans permalink
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No, he's still a democrat in CT- he just calls himself an "Independent Democrat" whatever that is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 11/18/2008

and no one but his constituents can boot him out of the Senate....no matter who he caucuses with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 11/18/2008

The solution's easy I just informed Salazar the Senator, I want to be removed from all his mailing lists, the same for Reid: Any Democrat that refuses to state their disgust for Joe the Rat. gets no more money from me. I will not work for any Democrat that has supported the senator from Conn .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 11/18/2008
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 40 fans permalink
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These are prob. joe's last years. His fund raising is anemic, and he is reviled in CT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 11/18/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Music to my eyes ....! Now it's up to CT - !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 11/18/2008
- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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It was almost only yesterday when he was re-elected.

Four more years! Four more years?

And no, CT has (currently) no provision for a recall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 11/18/2008
- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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What is that giant sucking sound?

Since there are any number of circumstances in the Senate
which require a two-thirds majority, obviously the
Demos still have a ways to go.

http://lieberman.senate.gov/documents/crs/supermajorityvotesenate.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 11/18/2008
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(I'm sure it's just coincidence that a Senate staff report
which details the when-&-how of super-majorities is to
be found on Joe Lieberman's web-site.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 11/18/2008
- super I'm a Fan of super 13 fans permalink
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Joe Lieberman retains the Homeland Security Chair. Our Civil Rights stay dead. R.I.P.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 11/18/2008

I think we can all agree that if Lieberman was a Republican and he supported Obama, he'd be out on his ass right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yama I'm a Fan of Yama 4 fans permalink
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Oddly, for supporters of a candidacy that touted change and working with others, reaching across the isle, inclusion and a whole new world..... You folks sure sound a lot like nasty, hateful partisans looking for an opportunity to take revenge.

Several here have mentioned "Change trolls" .

Get used to it because as time goes by and the left makes a mockery of Obama's avowed principals, you're going to hear the word "Change" along with hoots of laughter more often.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 11/18/2008
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 40 fans permalink
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What's this got to do with Obama. That guilt by association mumbo jumbo can take a hike.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yama I'm a Fan of Yama 4 fans permalink
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If Obama is not a reflection of his most ardent supporters..... then what is he?
And, what are you, if not a reflection of your party's vision of the world and our future?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 11/18/2008
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Agreed.

The "change trolls", at least the one's that I'm pointing toward, are the ones that are using terms such as "not change I can believe in" as mantras.... with little else to support their assertions.

I'm convinced that this a CONCERTED effort by right-wing radio demagogues to spam these threads to garner the ILLUSION that there is mass "outrage" at President-elect Obama.

Diehard kamikaze's from Operation Chaos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yama I'm a Fan of Yama 4 fans permalink
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Those who listen to conservative radio and watch conservative television tend to be over thirty and of little inclination towards spamming anyone.
When Rev Wright first made the scene and I came here to express my outrage, I was told that I was a troll and republican. No matter what I said, I was aggressively attacked the way you have attacked these "trolls"
Fact is, I was a registered democrat, had donated twice to Obama's campaign and voted for him in the primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 11/18/2008
- jorge4u I'm a Fan of jorge4u 18 fans permalink
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Two scenario here:

1. If Joe decides to campaign for Chambliss, then what?

2. If Obama tells Joe "you owe me" and Joe tells him "you can kiss my a****", then what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 11/18/2008
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Then Rahm "pitbull" Emmanuel chews his @$$ off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yama I'm a Fan of Yama 4 fans permalink
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Nothing.
Obama gets mad. Emmanuel gets mad. The far left loses it's minds.
Leibermann takes his wife to dinner with John and Cindy and doesn't give it a second thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 11/18/2008
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Seriously. JL is backed into a corner somewhat. Previously his *caucus* vote meant the Dem majority and all that goes with it. He was free to vote however damned well pleased in committee. for cloture, or on the floor. *Now* that power has vanished. If he's not going to support the Dems, at *least* on cloture votes, then he has no value to them any longer. He's stilll somewhat freee to vote as he pleases in committee and on the floor because of the size of the Dem majority. But he *knows* if helps the Republic party *block* votes, he will quickly see his chairmanship and committee posts reassigned (or at least I'm pretty sure the parties can change those at will). Futhermore he will likely find that, in the next 4 years, there will be precious few bills with his name on them that both get passed and benefit CT voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 11/18/2008
- super I'm a Fan of super 13 fans permalink
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Joe will block the bills right in committee so that they NEVER see the light of day. THAT is the power the chairmanship holds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 11/18/2008
- ajax2 I'm a Fan of ajax2 24 fans permalink
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Harry Reid what is the Centrist position on torture? Centrist my a rse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 11/18/2008
- pizzmoe I'm a Fan of pizzmoe 20 fans permalink

There is NO excuse for keeping Joe, but this is typical of the club that is the Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 11/18/2008
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There are legitimate reasons for keeping Joe right now... pragmatic ones.... & trying to micromanage the process at this point is silly.

Seriously.... why not WAIT until there are actual RESULTS before we start panicking.

We ALL must take into account that (as of now) THREE Senate seats are STILL up for grabs & we have to at least TRY to hold a filibuster-proof coalition together.

Lieberman is a first class W-E-A-S-E-L... but it's his EGO that is being stroked at this point & he KNOWS that he will never be reelected. This Chairmanship is all he has left.

Why NOT throw him this bone right now?

I GUARANTEE you that if he fails to toe the line & strays from President Obamas agenda, Rahm Emmanuel will tear him a new @SS#ole & he will lose his seat.

Let's have some FAITH & give our new Administration the benefit of the doubt... at least until there is are REAL reasons to raise our voices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 11/18/2008
- jorge4u I'm a Fan of jorge4u 18 fans permalink
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How could he lose his seat? It is my understanding that to strip Joe of his chairmanship, the entire Senate would have to agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 11/18/2008
- Yama I'm a Fan of Yama 4 fans permalink
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Leiberman is a career politician and has played his cards quite well. Emmanuel isn't going to have any more impact on him than anyone else has up to this point. Leiberman gets your shorts in a knot because he has the temerity to reach across the aisle. You may perhaps remember that that is one of Obama's avowed principles.
So, if you'll reach around and pull the knot out of your crack and climb out of your little sand box and look around, you'll see that lot's of folks are giving the administration a chance.
We're waiting to see the big "Change"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 11/18/2008
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