Clinton Lawyers Vetting Her For Secretary Of State

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BETH FOUHY | November 19, 2008 02:36 PM EST | AP

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In this Oct. 20, 2008, file photo Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., left, and Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. greet supporters at the end of a rally in Orlando, Fla. Former President Bill Clinton's globe-trotting business deals and fundraising for his foundation sometimes put his activities abroad at odds with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and it could cause complications for her if President-elect Barack Obama considers her to be secretary of state. (AP Photo/John Raoux, File)

CHICAGO — Associates of Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband say the former first lady is weighing whether to leave the Senate and become secretary of state, believing the job is hers if she wants it.

Obama transition officials say other candidates have been vetted for the job, but the New York senator has emerged as the leading contender and the vetting of former president Bill Clinton has been particularly intense. Associates say Hillary Clinton has been told that Obama wants her to be secretary of state, although accounts differ on how bluntly and directly Obama made the overture. They would speak only on grounds of anonymity because of the private nature of the negotiations.

Hoping to ease concerns about possible conflicts of interest, Bill Clinton has agreed to publicly disclose the names of all donors who have given more than $250 to his presidential library and foundation.

CHICAGO — Associates of Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband say the former first lady is weighing whether to leave the Senate and become secretary of state, believing the job is hers if she w...
CHICAGO — Associates of Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband say the former first lady is weighing whether to leave the Senate and become secretary of state, believing the job is hers if she w...
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- obgynobgyn I'm a Fan of obgynobgyn 3 fans permalink

Hillary, please do not fall for it.
Just like the so called audio tape that came out today, it is all a set up to keep
you following the drum of the people who are controlling American foreign Policy
at the expense of American lives on the battlefield.

There are people who want Bill to disclose his donors
to stand in the way of the peace process because there is more money in war than peace.

If Hillary tries to broker a peace deal and meet with anyone on Bill's donor list, the people
who do not want to see peace will use that list against her and say she is favoring them
because they made a donation to the Library or the Aids project.

We owe it to our men and women who are sent to their death, to talk to other countries
with the same respect equally on both sides without pre-conditions for one and not the other.

We will never have peace as long as we put any other country before America.
The only way we can help our friends and allies is if we are strong and not hated around the world.
Hillary might be able to broker a deal but this country is too busy letting another country
decide who we should talk to or broker peace deals with. Hillary is strong enough to press on
and try to do her best but they will use Bill's donor list against her when she does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 11/19/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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That's a salient point worthy of consideration. Thank you. That's looking at it from a different perspective! Put her on the Supreme Court. Scalia and Roberts will beg to pass stuff, just to keep from hearing her laugh/cackle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 11/19/2008
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She's even LESS qualified for the SCOTUS than she is for SOS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 11/19/2008
- reliant1 I'm a Fan of reliant1 24 fans permalink
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No one is put on the court - it is a position which is offered to an individual and then either it is accepted or not. Reaching the bench after that is up to the Senate.

Hillary has said over and over she has no interest in ever ever accepting an offer for SCOTUS.

The laugh ought to enough to disqualify her from any position involving contact with another human - but it isn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 11/19/2008
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

Hillary and Bill Clinton are dishonest and divisive. The nation needs to move forward without the Clntons and all their drama. We have too much to deal with, and they will only confuse and distract.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 11/19/2008
- reliant1 I'm a Fan of reliant1 24 fans permalink
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Oh pooh...another Israel hater. There will be peace in the ME whenever Saudi Arabia wants it.


The worst thing that ever happened to them was the formation and gift of Trans Jordan to the Arabs who were displaced by the Arab wars against Israel. They assisted in having these people thrown out of Jordan!!

There will be no peace until the Saudi's want it. Os.ama is Saudi - never forget his nationality.
Sauds give to everyone - the gifts to Bill will be lost in the sea of all the others they give.

So long as Saudi's are favored by America there can be no peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 11/19/2008
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"There will be peace in the ME whenever Saudi Arabia wants it."

It's way more complicated than that.

The King of Jordan described Jordan once as "between Iraq and a hard place"... meaning Israel.

Then there's Palestine of course. Let's also not forget that Israel has a really bad history with Lebanon...

Inside Israel there are hardliners who really REALLY don't want any negotiations with any hostile Arabic states.

Blaming the Saudis for all of the problems in the Middle East is just silly. It's actually a bit Palinesque.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 11/19/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 182 fans permalink

Whatever - make a decision already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 11/19/2008
- ballewb I'm a Fan of ballewb 2 fans permalink

Why, on a liberal site, is there so much hate for President and Senator Clinton?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 11/19/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

Because they are not liberal. It's also not hate but mistrust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 11/19/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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YES. They never spoke for Liberals. They "Centrists" (nice word for DINO's).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 11/19/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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Because, unlike rethugs, we don't blindly fall into line with all dems. People are different despite party afilliation, and we embrace diversity. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 11/19/2008
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Half of the hate is from poorly disguised neocons... 1/4 is from disillusioned Libertarians...1/8 have legitimate gripes but don't know how to express them... & 1/8 is from political neophytes with an emotional age of about 6.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 11/19/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 266 fans permalink
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I have been as strong a supporter of Obama as anyone here. I still am. However, the three things I value most are freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom of action. There are some posters here whom we all know and like, who supported Obama and still do, and strongly, but they are Independents. I don't know why they are that. I do know that I might become one if it means I can freely believe, and say, that Obama is making a mistake, that I don't agree with something he is doing, and not be ta.rred and fea.thered for it.

Obama himself said in his victory speech that we would not always agree with his decisions, and he said in that 30 minute program he did that he would make mistakes. That is good enough for me.

He did NOT go on to say that where we DON'T agree with him, then we don't support him, as some here have said.

Some people around here (not many of them regulars) seem to think that if you so much as question something Obama says or does, you are not a Democrat, you have committed high trea.son, and you might even be a tro//. That sounds like arm-twisting to me. That sounds to me like something that belongs more to ty.ranny than democracy. Obama is a president, not a ty.rant, not a di.ctator, and not a ki.ng.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 11/19/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 266 fans permalink
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Which category am I in? See my long post, it should be next to this one, it's a repost from earlier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 11/19/2008
- wonder6789 I'm a Fan of wonder6789 9 fans permalink

Being Cheney's clueless poodle for the past 7 years might have something to do with it.

Running a Rovian campaign of race-bating, fear-mongering, lies and bankrupcy perhaps also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 11/19/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Yes, yes and yes. Next question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 11/19/2008
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If POTUS-Elect Obama wants Hillary for SoS, he'll get her. If he doesn't, it just won't happen. He has the mandate. Frankly, I like her for the job, but I'll miss her as my senator. The vetting process will make it much easier for Gov. Patterson to appoint Bubba as her replacement! What else will Bill have to do if he has to give up all the speaches and free dinners?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 11/19/2008

"If POTUS-Elect Obama wants Hillary for SoS, he'll get her. If he doesn't, it just won't happen."

Exactly. All the rest is noise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 11/19/2008
- benne I'm a Fan of benne 10 fans permalink

The misogyny of the Obama team is palpable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 11/19/2008
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WTF?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 11/19/2008
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Then providing a link to examples of their misogyny should be straight forward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 11/19/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 266 fans permalink
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I don't know about this poster, but many of those who make this charge would, if they are honest, link you to an Obama supporter saying something like this: "I don't like the idea of Hillary as SOS, she is di.visive and po.larizing and not experienced enough, not exactly traits that bode well for that position."

That's right, there's your mi.sogyny...and your 'Hillary ha.te'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 11/19/2008
- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 82 fans permalink

Huh? You mean Obama supporters or Obama transition team members. And what does misogyny have to do with HRC being vetted for SoS? Enlighten us please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 11/19/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 266 fans permalink
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In a dream, perhaps, but not otherwise. It doesn't exist outside dreams....or outside the minds of those who try to pass it off as having substance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 11/19/2008

That's hot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 11/19/2008
- ggmome I'm a Fan of ggmome 13 fans permalink

Reigning him in is good for the country and for future negotiations worldwide. Would also increase our creditability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 11/19/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

"Clinton has agreed to release the names of SEVERAL major donors to his charitable foundation and will submit future foundation activities and paid speeches to a strict ethics review, said Democrats knowledgeable about the discussions."
Why not ALL Bill ? is this a definition of is thing. It makes me think of a Bu$h blunder "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." Or words to that effect. YUCK!

I want your wife to have a leadership position with the administration but you have made SOS impossible. All this drama, please go away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 11/19/2008
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Is that a DIRECT quote from Clinton... or is it a quote from some REPORTER?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 11/19/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

Oh come on - read the story above I guess it's Beth - but it is still not all so my point stands. Bill has become a disgrace It's a shame everyone in my family used to be a fan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 11/19/2008
- maikonen I'm a Fan of maikonen 9 fans permalink
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Oops! It now appears that the Clintons are calling Obama's bluff...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 11/19/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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Ummm...what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 11/19/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 266 fans permalink
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There is something about your post that is like a hooker slowly undoing her sweater. It's usually called a tease.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 11/19/2008
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Wow you see a hooker unzipping a sweater... what browser are you using?

I just see a provocateur who has a nutty opinion and not enough ability to provide any argument or evidence for what is really a pretty silly claim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 11/19/2008
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This is a total sham. She's jockeying for the position and I'll bet Obama never offered it or even considered offering it to her.

Hillary: "Give me the SOS gig."
Barack: "No."
Hillary: "I'll have my lawyers look into this. Hello, Andrea... have I got a story for you!"

This stinks of another political power play, with HRC leaking "info" to the press to manipulate and further her own agenda. Just like the VP selection when Bill was trying to wrangle it for his wife. The media speculated, the pundits spoke of certainty and inevitability, and it was just HRC being HRC.

Clinton is trying to bully her way into a position... just like she has so many times before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 11/19/2008
- dajay I'm a Fan of dajay 16 fans permalink

Exxon: Wow, that really is not saying much about Obama if he would be bullied into giving someone a position in his own cabinet, against his will.
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When is the lunatic Obama supporter spin going to stop.

You really are making fools of yourselves MORE THAN EVER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 11/19/2008
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Back into your burrow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 11/19/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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I'm sure your bar for us "lunatic" O supporters was pretty low already, so I'm not surprised you would say this.

Why don't you go play at Fixed Noise?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 11/19/2008

I completely agree with dayjay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 11/19/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 266 fans permalink
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"When is the lu.atic Obama supporter sp.in going to stop?"

There isn't any. There are just people who feel they have good reason to not fall down and wo.rship Hillary (and Bill) and who happen to support Obama too.

Even if we wanted to worship Hillary, we could never kneel to her, we couldn't get that close, what with all the ba.ggage stacked around her feet....


...LOL! sorry, I couldn't resist!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 11/19/2008
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If that was the case Obama's people would have shut it down immediately. I think she is not going to pass the vetting process, that is why we are hearing so many "Hill's not sure" stories today. And Ted Ken-nedy is giving her a way out by giving her a lead in the healthcare reform bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 11/19/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 78 fans permalink
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His Foundation is just one small part of it all.

What about Kazakhstan? Burkle? $800,000 from Colombia? The Cayman Islands account? The missing 2007 tax return? The library donors? The so-called "Clinton Family Fund"?

Disclosing "some" donors and entanglements simplly isn't good enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 11/19/2008
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Kazakhstan?

What.. did BORAT make an illegal contribution or something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 11/19/2008
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Clinton did a little door opening for a Canadian business man there. As soon as he got the contract for urainium mining, Clinton received a hefty donation to the Library from said Canadian business man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 11/19/2008

Whatever you do Mr. President, do not inhale now.............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 11/19/2008
- Joeblue I'm a Fan of Joeblue 5 fans permalink

She's NOT qualified.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 11/19/2008
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I agree, I don't know what they are thinking. This is terrifying to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 11/19/2008
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 61 fans permalink
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President - Elect Barack Obama will chose Gov Bill Richardson.

Why is it no one want to talk about Gov Richardson? Can we not vet more then one person at a time? After all, he did go to Chicago for that interview too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 11/19/2008
- jazzence I'm a Fan of jazzence 2 fans permalink

"One Clinton adviser noted that former President George H.W. Bush has given paid speeches and participated in international business ventures since his son, George W. Bush, has been president _ without stirring public complaints or controversy about a possible conflict of interest."

It's not like Bush needed his daddy to help enrich their friends coffers, he did all on his own. So that statement is irrelevant. Bush's administration has been a conflict of interest to everyone's interest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 11/19/2008
- isee61 I'm a Fan of isee61 11 fans permalink
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What the heck does vetted mean? There is nothing in the dictionary with this word. The only word that is close is vet short for veterinarian, an animal doctor. So are you saying that someone being vetted is being dogged? One might wonder.

Please give me some feed back. I just want to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 11/19/2008
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"Vetting" is performing a background check.... intelligence gathering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 11/19/2008
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it means what you think it means. But while googling I found this definition which I quite liked.

Vetting: the process, at antiques fairs, where all goods are examined to ensure they are genuine and correctly labeled.

The phrase "vetting John McCain" has a kind of neat ambiguity about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 11/19/2008
- SpringDoc I'm a Fan of SpringDoc 8 fans permalink

LMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 11/19/2008
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To vet was originally a horse-racing term, referring to the requirement that a horse be checked for health and soundness by a veterinarian before being allowed to race. Thus, it has taken the general meaning "to check."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 11/19/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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vetted
One entry found.

Main Entry: 2vet
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): vet·ted; vet·ting
Date: 1891
1 a: to provide veterinary care for (an animal) or medical care for (a person) b: to subject (a person or animal) to a physical examination or checkup
2 a: to subject to usually expert appraisal or correction b: to evaluate for possible approval or acceptance
— vet·ter noun

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vetted

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 11/19/2008
- isee61 I'm a Fan of isee61 11 fans permalink
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Thank you all sooooooooooo much for your response.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 11/19/2008

Dude, its vette as in corvette.....right everyone :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 11/19/2008
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 203 fans permalink
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"Clinton has agreed to release the names of several major donors to his charitable foundation..."

Several donors! Big deal. That means he will not release the full list. How many banksters, how many Bin Ladens and how many other shady characters are on that list? Why Obama, why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 11/19/2008
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"Bin Ladens"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 11/19/2008
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 203 fans permalink
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Laden_family

I'd be surprised if he did not get some money from them. They seem to have bought a lot of influence in the US. I am sure the bulk went to Bushes but since when would that prevent them from giving to Bill Clinton?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 11/19/2008
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yes, WHY!?!?! This is not change! The Clintons are more of the SAME! That's why we didn't vote for them this time around, @#$!%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 11/19/2008
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Grow up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 11/19/2008
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