Dean Basks In Election Results, Offers Hints Of The Future

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First Posted: 11-19-08 12:13 AM   |   Updated: 12-19-08 05:12 AM

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Fresh off an election cycle that saw massive Democratic gains in both houses of Congress and the reclamation of the White House, party chairman Howard Dean took a moment on Tuesday to bask in the achievements.

"Look, the record has obviously been unbelievable," he said in an interview with the Huffington Post at the DNC's headquarters. "It wasn't all me obviously. We had a lot of help from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. I had a big assist from George Bush and a huge assist from Barack Obama... But it is hard to improve on this."

These are, indeed, heady times for Dean. Days removed from his 60th birthday and months away from the end of his tenure at the DNC, the former Vermont Governor could not come up with a single regret from his four-year tenure as party chair.

"I'm sure there are some things," he said, before turning to his staff for help. "I don't carry a list of those in my head."

And yet, there are various questions that remain unresolved. Foremost is what Dean himself will do next. The rumor mill has him ending up somewhere in the upcoming Obama administration, perhaps as the head of Health and Human Services. "I'm not going to discuss anything related to the transition," he says of the chatter.

But after several efforts at rephrasing the question, he offers the slightest indication of what might be -- or at least what he wants to be -- around the corner.

"I'm interested in doing something policy oriented," he says, downplaying another political post. "But please do not put me down as a candidate for one agency or another. Because it is all gossip and it doesn't help at all... That stuff is very harmful to anyone who is looking to get into the administration... The best way you don't get a job is to campaign for it. It's just the way it works. It is a very complicated, subtle way of doing it, which is why I don't talk about it... So don't make more of me saying I'm interested in doing policy because it is going to hurt my chances."

As evidence, he cites a Politico article that said he was out of the running for HHS -- a piece that Dean said, laughingly, "was pulled out of thin air" and/or had to be planted by enemies.

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But questions persist beyond a hypothetical role in the Obama administration. For starters, who will be the next chair of the DNC?

Noting that the choice was ultimately Obama's to make, Dean had several recommendations: (1) the incoming administration should be one chair, not a dual ticket, which he said didn't perform well in the Clinton years; (2) the person should be a "substantial political figure who can help raise money"; and (3) whoever takes over the post should -- indeed, will -- continue the strategies he put in place four years ago.

"There is no question in my mind that Obama will continue the fifty-state-strategy," he says. "First of all, that is how they won the primary. They had organizations in every single state. And second of all, that is how they won the general."

Combining this facet of the Democratic politic id with an inclusive approach that Obama takes to governance (see: Lieberman, Joe), Dean predicted that his party would enjoy a durable majority and avoid the same pitfalls that engulfed the GOP these past four years.

"You have to bring everyone you can into the fold or the coalition," he explains. "You know, it is easy in politics to use anger, as Karl Rove and Lee Atwater and Newt Gingrich did -- to manufacture anger and aim it at a particular ethnic group, or gay people or immigrants. They always used to do that stuff. But it leads to a failure of government in a diverse country like this."

Ironically, as Dean prepares to leave office, some of the individuals holding leverage over the future direction of the Democratic Party are those with whom he has previously clashed.

The first is Rahm Emanuel -- a once-forceful critic of the fifty-state-strategy who Dean says is the ideal fit for the post of Barack Obama's chief a staff.

A White House with Rahm at the helm, said Dean, will be "very tough, very focused, very much the trains run on time. I know the blogosphere is not that enthusiastic about this, but the truth is, when you are actually governing you have got to get stuff done, and Rahm gets stuff done."

The second, somewhat surprisingly, is John McCain -- the man who Dean spent nearly every day of the past six months trying to chop down.

"I think McCain is most likely to be very helpful going forward on the stuff he cares about. When you run for president and you don't win, all the sudden you don't have to posture anymore. And my prediction is you will see the McCain of 2000 come back and he will work with Democrats when he should on stuff that he cares about," said Dean. "I have always respected McCain, especially the 2000 McCain. And I still respect McCain cause he wouldn't let them put the Jeremiah Wright ads on, which was an easy whack at us. So, you know, McCain is free now to be McCain again. He is free to do what he thinks is right and some of that will help the Democrats."

Fresh off an election cycle that saw massive Democratic gains in both houses of Congress and the reclamation of the White House, party chairman Howard Dean took a moment on Tuesday to bask in the achi...
Fresh off an election cycle that saw massive Democratic gains in both houses of Congress and the reclamation of the White House, party chairman Howard Dean took a moment on Tuesday to bask in the achi...
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Go Howie! If only we'd kept him on in '04...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 11/19/2008
- peggyleg I'm a Fan of peggyleg 22 fans permalink

He left after his humiliating "scream" after one of the primaries....pathetic....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 11/19/2008
- PalmG I'm a Fan of PalmG 6 fans permalink

No, what's pathetic is your being more bothered by a (pseudo) scream than your president lying people into a war and causing hundreds of thousands of deaths. Weigh the two--a scream versus war crimes. Hmmm, which is more "pathetic" I wonder. Get a life Peggyleg.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 11/19/2008
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Because you and your ilk pounced on him. You are pathetic

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 11/19/2008
- Fabienne I'm a Fan of Fabienne 31 fans permalink

No, he didn't leave, the Clinton wing of the Democratic Party put out the idea that he was "unelectable" before the scream, which came AFTER he had lost the Iowa caucuses. They also saw to it that a tape of him speaking in Canada about the caucuses being a meeting of special interests a few years before came out just before the Iowa caucus. I know for a fact from a close friend of the Clintons that they did NOT want a Democrat to win in 2004 so Hillary could run in 2008, and they were fearful that Dean could win the general election, whereas Kerry couldn't. They were right about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 11/19/2008
- Querent I'm a Fan of Querent 69 fans permalink
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Nobody is interested in your opinion, p-leg.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 11/19/2008
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Is it me, or Dean might be in talk with Obama about a cabinet appointment. These guys are brewing something guys and I like it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 11/19/2008
- classc 1 I'm a Fan of classc 1 7 fans permalink

Here's hoping...Dean surely deserves it!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 11/19/2008

Wouldn't it be smart if Dean got together with Obama so that they could all be reading from the same page. I see Nancy with her ideas, Dean with his - surely they would be stronger if they were united in the Dems goals which should come from Obama.
Will he reign them in for a friendly "chat"?.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 11/19/2008
- Strappo I'm a Fan of Strappo 8 fans permalink

A very interesting and thought-provoking piece. Howard Dean is right about all the factors that made the 50 State Strategy work. But I think he underplayed the crucial one: for once, in Obama, we had a candidate who captured the interest and inspired the best aspirations of the American people. A Barack Obama comes along once in a generation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 11/19/2008
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Actually, I've heard Gov. Dean interviewed several times since 11/4, and he always talks about what a great candidate we had in Obama and how that made his job so much easier. I truly believe Dean understands the significance of Obama's candidacy and defers to him in that nature. However, Dean deserves the credit for the 50 state strategy. He also was the first candidate to try out the internet with his Presidential candidacy - and that made it a lot easier for Obama's campaign to analyze Dean's shortcomings with the experiment and expand on that trial. Howard Dean has been a great DNC chair, and I'm excited to see what he does next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 11/19/2008
- lilpeg I'm a Fan of lilpeg 2 fans permalink

What 50 state strategy???? My state went over to the dark side this election. We had been fairly solid democratic for years. Nobody campaigned here. All the Obama yard signs came from out of state. If anything the next DNC chairman needs to apply themselves to the problems of the Deep South.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 11/19/2008
- brynn6 I'm a Fan of brynn6 12 fans permalink

Are you in Louisiana? If so, the Dems are scattered after Katrina. I'm in Texas and while the presence here could have been better it still was light years ahead of what it was four years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 11/19/2008
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Is Fla. and Nc. and Va. NOT he deep south?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 11/19/2008
- wendynyc I'm a Fan of wendynyc 12 fans permalink

If McCain truly loves America he will work with the Dems to bring about the real change that is needed in this country NOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 11/19/2008
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Was it just my Pennsylvania imagination or didn't I see plenty of Rev Wright on the final weekend here? McCain may not have "approved" of that message but some swiftboat-like operation did parade the Wright stuff around here. Glad it didn't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 11/19/2008

I even saw some on MSNBC during Keith Olberman's show. Since 527's are prohibited from coordinating with the campaign staff, they can do pretty much whatever they want. Not sure McCain could even communicate with them to tell them to stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 11/19/2008
- brynn6 I'm a Fan of brynn6 12 fans permalink

He could have made a public statement expressing his disapproval though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 11/19/2008
- TishiJo I'm a Fan of TishiJo 22 fans permalink

Howard Dean motivated me to volunteer to support him for the caucus in Iowa when he ran for President. He is a gifted, intelligent leader and I pray he gets the position in the administration that he wants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 11/19/2008

Thank you Chairman Dean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 11/19/2008
- jeanrenoir I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir 132 fans permalink

Dean deserves all the credit in the world for showing Obama how to pursue a 50-state strategy and how to raise endless money on the Net. He's one of the great Dem heroes of all time. He led the way to victory, and showed how a newcomer could theoretically go all the way. On top of that, his policy positions have also been exemplary. A major force in righting our nation by turning it toward the center-left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 11/19/2008

Great comment. Dean single-handedly turned the Democratic Party from a bunch of whining, cowed defeatists into a strong NATIONAL winning party. I'm sorry we haven't heard more praise for what he did from Obama and his campaign. I don't think Obama could have won without the network (web-based and other-based) that Dean put in place after 2004. But I'm not sure Obama knows that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 11/19/2008
- Mixpixlix I'm a Fan of Mixpixlix 24 fans permalink

I think the most important lesson of this election is the Dems got their act together AND they convinced voters that politics of division was going to leave them with nothing.

I still run into people who are very upset of the election, however, when you ask about financial and health care security they pale. Most people are terrified they'll outlive their financies and wind up sick and broke. These are issues that do cross party lines and I think if Obama is able to keep to his promises you'll see a number people who never voted for him claim that they did.

Howard Dean's legacy will be that he fixed what was broken in the Democratic party.

By the way...there is NO requirement that a supreme court justice be a lawyer. Plus, keep in mind that many early lawyers, including Lincoln, were self taught. It was not the profession as we understand it today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 11/19/2008
- wayofpeace I'm a Fan of wayofpeace 2 fans permalink
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DEAN wa the TURN for the party.

he was the very first to hit BUSH in the nose and made him bleed.

that began the resistance and the offense against the regime.

we CANNOT thank him enough.

also, his DEMOCRACY FOR AMERICA funded many unknowns pols
who were promising but had no pull with the DNC--like OBAMA.

thank you doctor dean. you did what had to be done!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 AM on 11/19/2008
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Thank you, Doctor/Governor/Chairman Dean. A great American, a great patriot. The Fifty-State Strategy: ask every American for their vote. What a concept!: Government by the people. Dean reminded Democrats, and the rest of the country, what it means to seek to govern, and to govern. Governor Dean rightly credits both Obama and Bush in the election results. But without Dean's insistence on and defense of the Fifty State Strategy in 2006 (Which was resisted strongly by both Emanuel and Schumer in 2006 - both owe Dean an admission that they were wrong), which was proved out by Democrats retaking (albeit narrowly) the Senate and the House, confirming the Strategy, where would things be now? We can only hope, for all of our sakes, that Governor Dean can continue to serve his fellow citizens. Thank goodness Barack Obama is capable of understanding and appreciating Dean's value. He will no doubt employ that value to good effect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 AM on 11/19/2008
- KISSman I'm a Fan of KISSman 7 fans permalink
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Howard is my political hero!

Dean brought a backbone to the Democrats in 2004 that had been lacking for quite a long time. He also laid the foundation with his internet driven campaign that fueled Obama's run in 2008. And during his 4-years atop the DNC, he clashed with Washington insiders who hated his vision for our party. Yet, it was Dean who prevailed in 2006 and 2008 across the board. Some Washington Democrats will still hate him after all he's done, but what he accomplished as the DNC Chairman is undeniable. His 50-state strategy was pure genius and it paid off for us in so many ways.

I sure hope Howard gets a job in the Obama administration. He deserves a promotion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 AM on 11/19/2008
- Brettster I'm a Fan of Brettster 10 fans permalink
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I would LOVE it if Obama gave Dean an important position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 AM on 11/19/2008
- anticon I'm a Fan of anticon 13 fans permalink

Not only that Obama is going to need someone like Dean as a counter balance to all the Clintonites.

How soon we forget if was the likes are Carvelle and Emanuel that wished to oust Dean and called his 50 state plan foolish.

Obviously the Obama camp has had a memory lapse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 11/19/2008
- ezet22 I'm a Fan of ezet22 7 fans permalink
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Amen on the balance. Howie proved to be a Wowie from the first day he peeked his head through the clouds during the 04' primary, from the view of Upstate NY looking at Vermont.
He was a shiner from day one and Dr. Dean knows how to get the job done.
The Fitty Cent Strategy was textbook. He would make a better and fresh Secratary of State. He has truly earned a place in the cabinent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 11/19/2008

I hope this concentration of Clintonistas and DLC people in the Obama administration doesn't forewarn of Obama deciding that the left wing of his base can be taken for granted. His support for Lieberman concerns me, it was a real poke in the eye to those of us who gave a lot of money and time to his campaign while the turncoat Lieberman was working for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 11/19/2008
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Obama and Dean communicate constantly. So I'm sure Dean is up for a position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 11/19/2008
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I guess everyone is talking big-tent reconciliation (but with McCain)??

I was hoping the DNC would/will return to a progressive agenda to counter (and oppose the most egregious) DLC corporatist pro-Gloablisation, pro-Big Business) policies.

There are two wings or parts to the Dem Party - modern (traditional corporatist, triangulating) ,and the postmodern, progressive, anti-big-corporate, anti-pro-Wall St. (at least policies favoring Wall St. over other interests, strongly environmental, communitarian over corporatist, into the public good, over the private good - though not neglecting the private goo, including Constructional individual rights).

The video at the link below presents the notion that there are really four (major) political parties in the U.S. now -
traditional Rep., modern Rep., modern Dem,. and postmodern Dem (progressive). Not an earthshakingly new idea, but an important one, and one that although it's pretty obvious, until it's delineated, a lot of people ignore:

http://integrallife.com/node/15724

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 AM on 11/19/2008
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