Flight Attendant Helps Land Plane After Co-Pilot's Mental Breakdown

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SHAWN POGATCHNIK | November 19, 2008 04:22 PM EST | AP

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DUBLIN, Ireland — An Air Canada co-pilot having a mental breakdown had to be forcibly removed from the cockpit, restrained and sedated, and a stewardess with flying experience helped the pilot safely make an emergency landing, an Irish investigation concluded Wednesday.

The report by the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit into an incident in January applauded the decision-making of the pilot and the cockpit skills of the flight attendant, who stepped into the co-pilot's seat for the emergency diversion to Shannon Airport in western Ireland.

None of the 146 passengers or other nine crew members on board the Boeing 767 bound from Toronto to London was injured after the 58-year-old co-pilot had to be removed by attendants and sedated by two doctors on board.

The report did not identify any of the Air Canada crew by name. Nor did it specify the psychiatric diagnosis for the co-pilot, who was hospitalized for 11 days in Irish mental wards before being flown by air ambulance back to Canada.

It said the co-pilot was a licensed veteran with more than 6,500 hours' flying time, about half on board Boeing 767s, and had recently passed a medical examination.

But it said the pilot noticed immediately that his co-pilot was not in good professional shape on the day of the flight, arriving late to the cockpit after all the safety checks and paperwork had been completed. He reported that the co-pilot's behavior worsened once they were airborne, and the co-pilot advised him to take a lengthy break for naps and a meal.

As the aircraft reached the middle of the Atlantic, the report said, the co-pilot began talking in a "rambling and disjointed" manner, took another nap, and then refused to buckle his seat belt or observe other safety procedures when he returned to the cockpit.

The pilot concluded that his colleague was now so "belligerent and uncooperative" that he couldn't do his job.

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The report said the pilot summoned several flight attendants to remove the co-pilot from the cockpit, and one flight attendant suffered an injured wrist in the struggle. Doctors from Britain and Canada on board determined that the co-pilot was confused and disoriented.

The report did not mention how the co-pilot was restrained. Departing passengers at the time said his arms and legs had been tied up to keep him under control.

The pilot then asked flight attendants to find out if any passenger was a qualified pilot. When none was found, one stewardess admitted she held a current commercial pilot's license but said her license for reading cockpit instruments had expired.

"The flight attendant provided useful assistance to the commander, who remarked in a statement to the investigation that she was `not out of place' while occupying the right-hand seat," the report said.

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Report, http://www.aaiu.ie/upload/general/11139-0.pdf

DUBLIN, Ireland — An Air Canada co-pilot having a mental breakdown had to be forcibly removed from the cockpit, restrained and sedated, and a stewardess with flying experience helped the pilot s...
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- ylpatriot I'm a Fan of ylpatriot 7 fans permalink

first of all dignify the "Flight Attendant" by acknowledging her with the correct title... she is not a stewardess........ and First and foremost ... thank you for a job well done.... Had i been on that flight ... i would certainly be very appreciative of your service and ability !!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 11/20/2008
- WTFbush I'm a Fan of WTFbush 6 fans permalink

PILOT: "Thanks Stewardess....ah, before you buckle in and get this plane moving in the right direction, get back there and grab me a diet coke and some more of those tasty peanuts....oh and easy on the ice this time. By the way the CEO of this company just authorize a pay cut in your salary"

Equal pay, equal respect needed!

GREAT JOB FLIGHT CREW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 11/20/2008
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Are you actually saying that airline waitresses and pilots deserve equal pay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 11/20/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 110 fans permalink
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True but it did tell me the gender of the subbing copilot. I wouldn't have know otherwise.

And looks like that lady missed her calling. The airline ought to train her for a raise. (Though I am surprised more planes don't have back up like this.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 11/20/2008

"Good luck. I just want you to know everyone's counting on you."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 11/20/2008
- moodigirl I'm a Fan of moodigirl 6 fans permalink
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Brillian joke, but it doesn't look as if anyone else got it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 11/20/2008
- SBrooksB I'm a Fan of SBrooksB 3 fans permalink
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I got it! :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 11/20/2008
- Palmz I'm a Fan of Palmz 201 fans permalink
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From the movie Airplane! Leslie Nielsen. I believe we all did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 11/20/2008
- senorplaid I'm a Fan of senorplaid 2 fans permalink

Cutty say he can't hang!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 11/20/2008

I got it, but I'm not Canadian.
Over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 11/20/2008
- whatthel I'm a Fan of whatthel 275 fans permalink
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But stop calling me Shirley.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 11/20/2008

My Mom's name was Shirley. We got so much mileage out of that line and I think of her every time I hear it. Thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 11/20/2008

Great (warped) minds think alike. My first thought was: "There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 11/20/2008
- gayinmt I'm a Fan of gayinmt 12 fans permalink
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Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 11/20/2008
- BassMent I'm a Fan of BassMent 41 fans permalink
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"Nervous?"
"Yeah."
"First time?"
"No, I've been nervous lots of times."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 11/20/2008
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Am I the only one who will admit I don't know how to fly a plane and probably am incapible of learning? Well at least the next time I fly I will rest easy knowing that everyone around me does know how and will take over if necessary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 11/20/2008

My favorite 'Sky King' show was when 'Penny' had to be talked down from the tower.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 11/20/2008

omg I remember that sky king wow...shows our age huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 11/20/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

Yep, you betcha...and we are like fine wine midst the swirl of Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 11/20/2008

"Out of the blue of the western sky comes-------Sky King!!" Wow, does that bring back memories. Now I want a Lorna Doone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 11/20/2008
- DeSwiss I'm a Fan of DeSwiss 35 fans permalink
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Ahh yes! And if you want to hear it all again:

http://www.skyking.com/index.htm

We're all old as dirt!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 11/20/2008

Thanks for reminding me of Sky King. I watched every Saturday. I know I'm older than dirt, but those are some fun memories. I always wanted to be Penny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 11/20/2008

Wow -- thank you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 11/20/2008
- jukesgrrl I'm a Fan of jukesgrrl 85 fans permalink
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I loved that show, too. But what would we think, now, if there was a show about a single uncle who took his teenage niece everywhere he went?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 11/20/2008
- wm1066 I'm a Fan of wm1066 34 fans permalink
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Funny !
Never thought of it that way before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 11/20/2008

Those were different times so perhaps not as many thought of things that way. Today it would make a great SNL sketch.

Couldn't Penny just walk down the steps of the tower? Why did someone have to talk to her?
Over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 11/20/2008
- Nofoolhere I'm a Fan of Nofoolhere 12 fans permalink
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In an earlier life, I was a commercially licensed instrument rated flight instructor. Whenever I traveled on the commercial airlines, I always wore my Captain Marvel uniform under my travel cloths, just in case! :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 11/20/2008

That is so funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 11/20/2008
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Flight Attendants should get trained to fly planes or have three piolets onboard during every flight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 11/20/2008

especiaslly on overseas flights

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 11/20/2008

Overseas flights almost always have 3 or 4 pilots on board. They rotate in roughly every two hours to stay rested and fed. On shorter flights, say from California to Hawaii, that is not observed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 11/20/2008
- AZ AF VET I'm a Fan of AZ AF VET 10 fans permalink
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And pilots need to learn how to pour soft drinks and serve meals. Can you say buckle your seat belt or would you like a pillow?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 11/20/2008
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 112 fans permalink
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What a great story! A womon to the rescue again! Fabulous!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 11/20/2008

Scary. So a pilot can't fly a commercial plane alone? Guess I thought the co-pilot was just there in case the pilot had a problem. Shows what I know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 11/20/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 76 fans permalink

Takes two to fly a plane with all the instruments, no way one person alone can handle all of it.
I guess they have specific duties assigned to them. What luck that the flight attendant had some
schooling, imagine that, a 767!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 11/20/2008

Not as hard as you think.

With today's aircraft its hard to make mistakes.

The computer won't let you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 11/20/2008
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It does not take 2 to fly a plane. In fact as I said in an earlier post, it actually takes 0 to fly a plane since the new aircraft Flight Management Systems (FMS) are capable of doing it all automatically, including landing !

When you say "all the instruments", you are wrong. Half of the instruments you see on the panel are duplicates. One set for the pilot (left side), and one set for the co-pilot (right side). With the introduction of glass cockpit technology (e.g.: a computer screen instead of an instrument), the majority of the information used by the pilot can be put on three screens in front of him.

The co-pilot assists the pilot in periods of high workload, and also is there to make sure that he picks up any mistakes or oversights. He also provides a second set of eyes to scan outside the aircraft for traffic. Since the airlines eliminated the flight engineer from the cockpit, some of his workload has been taken over by automation, or has been transferred to the pilots. This was done primarily to reduce cost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 11/20/2008
- saxmaniac I'm a Fan of saxmaniac 6 fans permalink

It's CO-pilot, not "substitute" pilot. Right-seat often handles the take-offs/landings while the Capt handles the radio calls, instrument flight procedures, etc. Actually a 767's computers can land the thing better than a human, but someone has to find the airport, make sure ithe plane is at the correct altitude/airspeed, etc. at the right time, and deal with air traffic control. Not easy for a single pilot with 140 or so people in back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 11/20/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

Now if the pilot had been Palin, then surely her co pilot would have been God.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 11/20/2008

Thanks for all the info!!! It is good to learn something new every day, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 11/20/2008

Hospitalization isn't all that uncommon, mental health is so misunderstood by most people(I don't claim to understand it either). I know several people with various illness who nobody would characterize as "a dangerously sick individual", that's what medication is for...we also do not know if this person was under tremendous stress for something that could have caused him to snap. We do not know enough to make any judgments about this. I don't know what the procedure is for pilots who have been diagnosed with a mental illness, but they certainly would not "cart him off to prison after the blood tests came back" That's ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 11/20/2008
- Tamoomoo I'm a Fan of Tamoomoo 7 fans permalink
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To go even further - usually someone is hospitalized so an eye can be kept on them as they are adjusting to new psychiatric medicines (some of them are said to knock you out so cold if you are on the wrong dose, and then there is the risk of nasty drug allergies you may previously not known about). Usually people get a couple different things. Also, it provides those who have "snapped" like this guy a quiet place to regroup, with the quiet surroundings and therapy offered. Some hospitals are like well-being vacations! Except, no pool and terrible food. :)

I would think he had something really stressful going on in his life. It is a shame that he also happened to fly commercial jets for a living, so unfortunately having a breakdown could have been very dangerous, if it weren't for the flight attendant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 11/20/2008
- bliss0027 I'm a Fan of bliss0027 23 fans permalink
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as well an observation period is usually required to diagnose some mental conditions, not all symptoms show at the same time, and its usually hard to make a decision based on one day of observation

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 11/20/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

In this day and age, getting into a psych hospital is not all that easy either. Medicaid pays only for those screened to be at high risk of suicide or homocide or who are so psychotic that they are unable to provide adequate self care. Many who are actively psychotic still don't always meet hospitalization criteria. Many private insurance companies have almost as stringent requirements. I work in the mental health field and actually do medicaid screens. It can be very frustrating trying to get someone help . I am so glad that recent legislation has put a few more teeth toward parity of mental health and physical healt payment, but I am very fearful that insurance companies will cut away at physical health coverage rther than pay for more mental health coverage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 11/20/2008
- paganmist I'm a Fan of paganmist 67 fans permalink

Wow. I love stories like this. I love when some generally overlooked (like a stewardess with the desire to fly) gets to save the day and succeeds. Yes, I am a sucker for Disney movies!

Seriously, though. This is providence and human triumph at it's best, along with a dollop of tragedy. I hope that stewardess, whomever she may be, goes and gets her license, and then becomes a pilot already. Imagine if all this time it's been fear that she would lose her cool in just such a situation, keeping her from taking the final step toward becoming an actual pilot?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 11/20/2008
- canuck59 I'm a Fan of canuck59 3 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 11/20/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 408 fans permalink
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There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind.

Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions.

Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to.

Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.

"That's some catch, that Catch-22," Yossarian observed.

"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 11/20/2008
- WTFbush I'm a Fan of WTFbush 6 fans permalink

Awesome...how very sad and very appropriate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 11/20/2008

Retired Flight engineer here (DC-8's).

Never had to land but having monitored systems and set power settings on throttles and knowing the aircraft systems better than most pilots I could have done so if called upon.

Always sat between co pilot and pilot on take offs and landings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 11/20/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 408 fans permalink
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The DC-8 engineer's panel is an amazing sight. Everything is a lever pulling a cable.

Old saying - "Boeing builds airplanes. Douglas builds character"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 11/20/2008

Actually the battery on a DC-8 is the size of a loaf of bread,,,,,,,,used only for instruments.

cable rigged is actually quite safe and the Diesel 8 was built like a brickshitehouse for the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 11/20/2008

Our simulator was in Stockholm when I was still flying. They really throw some stuff at you there. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 11/20/2008

Doesn't UPS have ground TCAS? invented it I heard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 11/20/2008

It happened in the middle of the Atlantic so the Bermuda Triange angle can't be applied. Guess the guy just went bonkers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 11/20/2008
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I'd like to know what the HECK was wrong with the guy! Can we rightfully assume he's going to turn in his wings or have them taken away?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 11/20/2008
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 144 fans permalink

Obviously this has its root cause in some sort of medical condition. The co-pilot may have to be relieved of his duties due to medical disqualification and disability, but I certainly do not find cause to think that he is likely to be "at fault" here. The mind is a strange and wonderful thing that can break down in many ways. If they had him hospitalized for eleven days and did not cart him off to prison after the blood-results came back, that says to me that what we have here is "a desperately sick man."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 11/20/2008
- Stephen I'm a Fan of Stephen 3 fans permalink

Perhaps not even desperately sick. Allergies and toxins or even blood sugar can produce the same symptoms. Mouldy bread can cause ergotomania. I had the flu one time and my brother called me and as we talked it was clear I was not making sense. I was diagnosed as "confusional." Fever did it. Of course he could have "snapped." That is why they have backup systems and good on the Stewardess! Most of the private plane owners I know have one or more of their frequent flyers take a specialized course that doesn't qualify them as a pilot but does teach them to land the plane. These things happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 11/20/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 408 fans permalink
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Hard to say. He will certainly be medically grounded for a period of time.

Assuming he can be cured, he will have to fight to get his medical certificate reinstated. It can become a big legal battle between the company's doctors and lawyers and the union's doctors and lawyers. He may very well end up on permanent medical disability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 11/20/2008
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