Nate Silver Cursed Out By Right-Winger

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First Posted: 11-19-08 10:40 AM   |   Updated: 12-20-08 05:12 AM

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Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight interviewed John Ziegler, who commissioned a Zogby poll purporting to prove that Obama voters are uninformed. Things started off testy:

NS: What was the right answer to that [Palin] question?


JZ: The technically accurate question [sic] is that none of the four people said that, but we counted it as correct if they said Sarah Palin.

NS: Why would you commission a survey question with no correct response?

JZ: The purpose of the question, you pinhead, was we wanted to determine the Tina Fey Effect.

And it only got worse, ending with Ziegler telling Silver to "go fuck yourself."

NS: Would you consider yourself well-informed?


JZ: I'd consider myself extremely well-informed.

NS: Who are the two senators from South Dakota

JZ: Thune and, uh, Johnson.

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NS: Very good. South Carolina?

JZ: Go fuck yourself. I'm done with this interview if you're going to ask me stupid questions like that. Obviously I know who Lindsay Graham is.

NS: Well, since you're running a website calling people misinformed, I'd like to see if -- there are certain things you've said that I would consider misinformed.

JZ: Misinformed? You're a piece of work! You are never going to have the guts to post a representative transcript on your website! I thought you actually ran a legitimate website!

NS: Thank you, have a good day.

JZ: Go fuck yourself.

Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight interviewed John Ziegler, who commissioned a Zogby poll purporting to prove that Obama voters are uninformed. Things started off testy: NS: What was the right answer to...
Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight interviewed John Ziegler, who commissioned a Zogby poll purporting to prove that Obama voters are uninformed. Things started off testy: NS: What was the right answer to...
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- badtimes I'm a Fan of badtimes 11 fans permalink

After reading the transcript, it appears Mr. Ziegler was extremely defensive. After reading the questions that were asked in the poll, I can see why.
And, presser to the contrary, I'd say it is a push poll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 11/20/2008

Wait - Real Right Wingers don't curse - they're always in Church

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 11/20/2008
- kiwi1 I'm a Fan of kiwi1 7 fans permalink

Just goes to show when you hang out with liberals some of their evil ways gets on ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 11/20/2008
- doublels I'm a Fan of doublels 22 fans permalink

YES!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 11/20/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 279 fans permalink
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The Tina Fye effect never bothered the Obama voters . Palin was never considered to be worthy of a voted after she opened her mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 AM on 11/20/2008
- RonCanada I'm a Fan of RonCanada 2 fans permalink

Nate Da Man!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 11/20/2008
- Ssebo I'm a Fan of Ssebo 3 fans permalink

Nate will provide me with many nights of sound sleep in the runoff to next elections!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 AM on 11/20/2008
- Kevbo68 I'm a Fan of Kevbo68 6 fans permalink
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This is freakin' hilarious. Thank you Nate Silver.

Ziegler is obviously his own worst enemy and the entire output of his firm must be drawn into question. Way to go there, genius!

Someone needs a timeout in the corner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 11/20/2008
- Kevbo68 I'm a Fan of Kevbo68 6 fans permalink
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D'oh. Getting my Z-named people mixed up. That should have read, Zogby should be a bit ashamed for doing such a slanted push poll for a jerk like Ziegler. I accidentally implied Ziegler worked for Zogby. Too many Zzzzzs. Now I need some zzzzz.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 AM on 11/20/2008
- Kevbo68 I'm a Fan of Kevbo68 6 fans permalink
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538 FTW
Zogby ftl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 AM on 11/20/2008
- SimonNZ I'm a Fan of SimonNZ 9 fans permalink

What a surprise! Who'd have thought conservatives would prove to be such sore losers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 11/20/2008

And these same idiots stood by silently-- even proudly-- while Bush dragged this country through the mud. If the best they can do now is commission a bogus poll, they are sprinting full speed into complete and total irrelevancy. I sure hope they move forward with their grand plan of doubling down on their bankrupt ideology. The hard work is always easier when you have help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 11/20/2008

Silver predicted the outcome of this election by a margin of less than one percent literally months before it was all over. Although his figures seemed far fetched at the time, they turned out to be pure genius.

Hey! He is kinda cute! Looks like a mischievous Austin Powers...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 11/20/2008
- DrDemon I'm a Fan of DrDemon 8 fans permalink
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Nate

Is

A

Genius !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 11/20/2008

And one hella HOTTIE! ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 11/20/2008
- DrDemon I'm a Fan of DrDemon 8 fans permalink
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Ok, a good looking genius... grr

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 11/21/2008
- thaggas I'm a Fan of thaggas 12 fans permalink
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If you go to 538 and read this whole thing, you find out that Nate was cordial through the whole thing and Ziegler was nothing but insulting and combative the entire time.

He's such a tool. (And I mean that in every single definition of the word.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 11/20/2008
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I LOVE 538 ....It kept me sane during the entire election process. The site was fresh air amongst all of the filth and insanity. I was given an opportunity to be educated and comprehend what all the stats, and variables meant. For that I am grateful.

Thank you Mr. Silver for your rational perspective. As far as Ziegler, hmmmmm...p­erhaps with some meds, anger management courses , and getting a B(*^!@b he'll manage to crawl out from under his rock and go F#%k himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 11/20/2008

Go nate. Go 538! Loving the news these days folks. Loving it!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 11/20/2008
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