Iraqi Shiites burn Bush effigy in anti-US protest

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HAMZA HENDAWI | November 21, 2008 05:35 PM EST | AP

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Followers of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr burn the American flag as thousands converge at Firdous Square in central Baghdad, Iraq for a mass prayer to protest a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security pact on Friday, Nov. 21, 2008. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

BAGHDAD — Chanting "no to America," supporters of a radical Shiite cleric burned an effigy of President George W. Bush Friday in a protest demanding parliament scuttle a U.S.-Iraqi security pact and American troops begin withdrawing from Iraq immediately.

The demonstration drew nearly 20,000 followers of Muqtada al-Sadr to Firdous Square, the same spot where U.S. Marines toppled a statue of Saddam Hussein and exultant Iraqis pummeled it with debris in what became an iconic image of the fall of Baghdad and the end of the dictator's 23-year rule.

Friday's protest was the latest display of opposition to an accord that could push Iraq into new political turmoil even though the ruling coalition appears to have enough parliamentary votes to narrowly approve the deal.

Parliament is scheduled to vote on the pact Monday, but presidential spokesman Naseer al-Ani told Iraq's Sharqiyah television that the vote might be delayed until after the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha, which falls in early December.

"It will need more time. Perhaps until after Eid al-Adha," he told the station. The legislature is expected to go into recess this month ahead of Eid al-Adha, when scores of lawmakers travel to Saudi Arabia for the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca.

The pact establishes a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from cities by June 30 and the entire country by 2011. It places U.S. forces under tight Iraqi control and gives the Iraqis limited powers to put American soldiers and civilian Pentagon employees on trial in cases of serious crimes committed off-base and off-duty.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has said the agreement offers Iraq the only viable option to regain full sovereignty. The alternative would be to seek the renewal of a U.N. mandate that, he said, allows U.S. forces a free rein in the country. The mandate expires Dec. 31.

But none of that mattered Friday at Firdous Square, where protesters waved Iraqi flags and green Shiite banners and chanted: "No, no to the agreement of humiliation!"

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Al-Sadr, who is based in Iran, did not attend. But in a sermon read to the crowd by an aide, he criticized the government and described America as "the enemy of Islam."

"The government must know that it is the people who help it through the good and the bad times. If it throws the occupier out, all the Iraqi people will stand by it," al-Sadr said, using common rhetoric for the United States.

Organizers placed an effigy of Bush on the same pedestal where the giant Saddam statue stood before it was knocked down on April 9, 2003. A sign attached to the effigy described the pact as "shame and humiliation."

After a mass prayer, demonstrators pelted the Bush effigy with plastic water bottles and shoes. One man standing on the pedestal hit it in the face with his sandal.

The effigy fell into the crowd and protesters jumped on it before setting it ablaze as the crowd erupted with chants of "Allahu Akbar," or "God is great." Several U.S. flags were also burned.

The demonstration followed two days of raucous protests in the 275-seat parliament by al-Sadr loyalists who disrupted readings of the proposed pact by shouting and pounding their desks.

Al-Sadr's influence in Iraq has dipped compared to the days when his militiamen battled U.S. forces in Baghdad and across southern Iraq in 2004, and when they were seen as protectors of Shiites against Sunni militants at the height of the sectarian violence in 2006 and 2007.

His movement's popularity suffered with the involvement of some militiamen in protection and black market rackets, as well as general fatigue from the on-again, off-again fighting. It has retained a loyal base of support in Baghdad and the Shiite south, largely because of nationalist credentials and the perceived failure of rival Shiite parties to improve services.

Al-Ani, the presidential spokesman, acknowledged al-Sadr's group enjoys the sympathy of "not an insignificant segment" of the population.

"As long as they remain a part of the political process, they can say what they want," he said after President Jalal Talabani and representatives of several political blocs met to discuss the security pact.

If the vote were held Monday, the pact seems headed to a narrow victory in the fractious legislature, a prospect that could deepen Iraq's political divisions and deal a serious setback to reconciliation efforts.

The country's most influential Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, has indicated the agreement would only be acceptable if it passes with a big majority.

But that seems unlikely now. With all votes from parliament's main Shiite and Kurdish blocs _ the senior partners in al-Maliki's coalition _ the government can muster just over 140 seats, a few above the simple majority threshold.

Such a narrow margin would cast doubt on the pact's legitimacy and could prompt al-Sistani to speak against it. If he does, the agreement would be buried.

It is unclear how the government's Sunni Arab partners, the Iraqi Accordance Front, will vote. Its 44 lawmakers could give the government the respectable margin of victory it seeks, but leaders of the bloc are making their approval conditional on a package of reforms to give their once-dominant community a bigger say in running the country.

Al-Maliki said he was surprised by the Sunni demands and suggested they were tantamount to political blackmail.

The Sadrists, who have 30 lawmakers in parliament, are leading the camp that opposes the security deal, which includes the Shiite Fadhila party with 15 seats and a small Sunni bloc with 11 seats. There is no firm word on how the remaining 30 or so lawmakers would vote.

If the accord passes the legislature, it will go to the president and his two deputies for ratification. Each has veto power.

Senior members of al-Sadr's movement acknowledge the agreement is likely to pass, but see gains in the political storm around it.

"If the agreement passes with a small majority, it will be a defeat for those who sponsored it," said Salah al-Obeidi, al-Sadr's spokesman.

The Sadrists are looking beyond the agreement, hoping their intense opposition will translate into votes in provincial elections slated for Jan. 31 and a general election late next year.

BAGHDAD — Chanting "no to America," supporters of a radical Shiite cleric burned an effigy of President George W. Bush Friday in a protest demanding parliament scuttle a U.S.-Iraqi security pact...
BAGHDAD — Chanting "no to America," supporters of a radical Shiite cleric burned an effigy of President George W. Bush Friday in a protest demanding parliament scuttle a U.S.-Iraqi security pact...
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- helenwheels I'm a Fan of helenwheels 588 fans permalink
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Ooof! Not the shoe treatment! Isn't that like the worst insult you can get in Iraq?

wow that's gotta hurt

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 11/21/2008

Hahaha! He got the shoe? Not the shoe!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 11/21/2008
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Well, technically the worst insult you can get in Iraq is having somebody send troops into the country, claim to be a "liberator" and a "uniter," play one political faction off another each in turn, and then proceed to botch the reconstruction by using its budget to launder US taxpayer money and dish it out to all his friends in CACI, Haliburton, Blackwater and all the other defense contractors.

But hitting someone with the bottom of your shoe is second on the list, I think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 11/21/2008
- Rictracee I'm a Fan of Rictracee 137 fans permalink
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wait , wait, I thought we were the liberators

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 11/21/2008

Don't these people know that the surge is working?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 11/21/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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They're celebrating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 11/21/2008
- helenwheels I'm a Fan of helenwheels 588 fans permalink
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maybe they didn't get the memo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 11/21/2008
- GlenRast I'm a Fan of GlenRast 35 fans permalink
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The truth is no one will ever know if it worked until AFTER we leave. There may be less violence but no militia has ever given up their weapons, Sunnis and Shiites still hate each other and the Kurds not only have not given up there dream of an independent country but still refuse to hand over control of the massive oil fields they gained during the invasion to the central government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 11/21/2008

So the surge is still working?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 11/21/2008
- Shikamaru I'm a Fan of Shikamaru 9 fans permalink

lol


btw nice choice of forum name

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 11/21/2008
- WowJones I'm a Fan of WowJones 87 fans permalink
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The object of the surge was to at least give the illusion that the new government had the breathing room to run things. Once we're gone they will continue with ther ages -old mental breakdown. In that regard, I guess it worked, left an illusion and the NeoConMen can save face by telling everyone how successful they would have been if we only stayed another 100 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 11/21/2008
- Insightful I'm a Fan of Insightful 8 fans permalink

What a surprise! According to John McCain and others of the same mindset the surge worked and we won. What is it that we were supposed to have won? We sacrificed our beloved soldiers, bankrupted our country and have reaped nothing but dishonor. We did not even get the oil Cheney was after.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 11/21/2008
- AtheistUS I'm a Fan of AtheistUS 83 fans permalink
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Muslim extremists against Christian extremists. Terrain of blind beliefs...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 11/21/2008
- Rendon76 I'm a Fan of Rendon76 16 fans permalink
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You know its bad when you start getting the shoe to the face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 11/21/2008
- bodo I'm a Fan of bodo 7 fans permalink

This is just more of the same middle-eastern stuff they have been strutting for decades. Jimmy Carter was the first US President officially declared a Devil, and so was every President since. Teh recent verbal attack against Obama by Al Qaida shows that nothing will ever change in that part of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 11/21/2008

Rather than list those that despise Bush, wouldn't it be more efficient to list those that don't?

www.goodriddance.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 11/21/2008
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Are we winning yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 11/21/2008
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The burning Bush, how biblical

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 11/21/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 11/21/2008

Very funny on a Friday...thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 11/21/2008
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This whole mess is the result of Religious Dogma-Dogmas

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 11/21/2008
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Absolutely right..and lead by that well known Christian Conservative and Great Decider Bush.

I've often wondered. If it takes the congress to vote to go to war why doesn't it take the congress to vote to stay in Iraq considering how reprehensible this deal is? Why is the Iraqi Government in control of our military?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 11/21/2008
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Uhm, lemme guess. Because it's their country our troops are in. Or do we continue to save them whether they want us to or not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 11/21/2008
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Looks like our karma has run over our dogma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 11/21/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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Screw the auto industry!

With Obama coming in as President, the effigy and combustible American flag business will be ruint!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 11/21/2008
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Dang. Combustible flags are so much cheaper to manufacture....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 11/21/2008
- lafrance I'm a Fan of lafrance 40 fans permalink

Remember all those american flags waving in Germany. It was so strange to see people overseas waving flags rather then burn and stomp on them.
That is what an Obama presidency brings.
But, until Jan. 20th, we will still see american flags burning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 11/21/2008
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We'll be greeted with Flowers and Candy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 11/21/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 292 fans permalink

Why so you suppose 9 / 11 happened? THEY DON"T WANT US OVER THERE!!!

Can you imagine if another country told us they were building military bases in let's say South Dakota? And they were doing it regardless of our people's opinions. We have more nerve..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 11/21/2008
- JayKlein I'm a Fan of JayKlein 4 fans permalink

Its not only they dont want us there. Its NOBODY want us there. No country was for invasion Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 11/21/2008
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