Iraqi Shiites burn Bush effigy in anti-US protest

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HAMZA HENDAWI | November 21, 2008 05:35 PM EST | AP

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Followers of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr burn the American flag as thousands converge at Firdous Square in central Baghdad, Iraq for a mass prayer to protest a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security pact on Friday, Nov. 21, 2008. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

BAGHDAD — Chanting "no to America," supporters of a radical Shiite cleric burned an effigy of President George W. Bush Friday in a protest demanding parliament scuttle a U.S.-Iraqi security pact and American troops begin withdrawing from Iraq immediately.

The demonstration drew nearly 20,000 followers of Muqtada al-Sadr to Firdous Square, the same spot where U.S. Marines toppled a statue of Saddam Hussein and exultant Iraqis pummeled it with debris in what became an iconic image of the fall of Baghdad and the end of the dictator's 23-year rule.

Friday's protest was the latest display of opposition to an accord that could push Iraq into new political turmoil even though the ruling coalition appears to have enough parliamentary votes to narrowly approve the deal.

Parliament is scheduled to vote on the pact Monday, but presidential spokesman Naseer al-Ani told Iraq's Sharqiyah television that the vote might be delayed until after the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha, which falls in early December.

"It will need more time. Perhaps until after Eid al-Adha," he told the station. The legislature is expected to go into recess this month ahead of Eid al-Adha, when scores of lawmakers travel to Saudi Arabia for the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca.

The pact establishes a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from cities by June 30 and the entire country by 2011. It places U.S. forces under tight Iraqi control and gives the Iraqis limited powers to put American soldiers and civilian Pentagon employees on trial in cases of serious crimes committed off-base and off-duty.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has said the agreement offers Iraq the only viable option to regain full sovereignty. The alternative would be to seek the renewal of a U.N. mandate that, he said, allows U.S. forces a free rein in the country. The mandate expires Dec. 31.

But none of that mattered Friday at Firdous Square, where protesters waved Iraqi flags and green Shiite banners and chanted: "No, no to the agreement of humiliation!"

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Al-Sadr, who is based in Iran, did not attend. But in a sermon read to the crowd by an aide, he criticized the government and described America as "the enemy of Islam."

"The government must know that it is the people who help it through the good and the bad times. If it throws the occupier out, all the Iraqi people will stand by it," al-Sadr said, using common rhetoric for the United States.

Organizers placed an effigy of Bush on the same pedestal where the giant Saddam statue stood before it was knocked down on April 9, 2003. A sign attached to the effigy described the pact as "shame and humiliation."

After a mass prayer, demonstrators pelted the Bush effigy with plastic water bottles and shoes. One man standing on the pedestal hit it in the face with his sandal.

The effigy fell into the crowd and protesters jumped on it before setting it ablaze as the crowd erupted with chants of "Allahu Akbar," or "God is great." Several U.S. flags were also burned.

The demonstration followed two days of raucous protests in the 275-seat parliament by al-Sadr loyalists who disrupted readings of the proposed pact by shouting and pounding their desks.

Al-Sadr's influence in Iraq has dipped compared to the days when his militiamen battled U.S. forces in Baghdad and across southern Iraq in 2004, and when they were seen as protectors of Shiites against Sunni militants at the height of the sectarian violence in 2006 and 2007.

His movement's popularity suffered with the involvement of some militiamen in protection and black market rackets, as well as general fatigue from the on-again, off-again fighting. It has retained a loyal base of support in Baghdad and the Shiite south, largely because of nationalist credentials and the perceived failure of rival Shiite parties to improve services.

Al-Ani, the presidential spokesman, acknowledged al-Sadr's group enjoys the sympathy of "not an insignificant segment" of the population.

"As long as they remain a part of the political process, they can say what they want," he said after President Jalal Talabani and representatives of several political blocs met to discuss the security pact.

If the vote were held Monday, the pact seems headed to a narrow victory in the fractious legislature, a prospect that could deepen Iraq's political divisions and deal a serious setback to reconciliation efforts.

The country's most influential Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, has indicated the agreement would only be acceptable if it passes with a big majority.

But that seems unlikely now. With all votes from parliament's main Shiite and Kurdish blocs _ the senior partners in al-Maliki's coalition _ the government can muster just over 140 seats, a few above the simple majority threshold.

Such a narrow margin would cast doubt on the pact's legitimacy and could prompt al-Sistani to speak against it. If he does, the agreement would be buried.

It is unclear how the government's Sunni Arab partners, the Iraqi Accordance Front, will vote. Its 44 lawmakers could give the government the respectable margin of victory it seeks, but leaders of the bloc are making their approval conditional on a package of reforms to give their once-dominant community a bigger say in running the country.

Al-Maliki said he was surprised by the Sunni demands and suggested they were tantamount to political blackmail.

The Sadrists, who have 30 lawmakers in parliament, are leading the camp that opposes the security deal, which includes the Shiite Fadhila party with 15 seats and a small Sunni bloc with 11 seats. There is no firm word on how the remaining 30 or so lawmakers would vote.

If the accord passes the legislature, it will go to the president and his two deputies for ratification. Each has veto power.

Senior members of al-Sadr's movement acknowledge the agreement is likely to pass, but see gains in the political storm around it.

"If the agreement passes with a small majority, it will be a defeat for those who sponsored it," said Salah al-Obeidi, al-Sadr's spokesman.

The Sadrists are looking beyond the agreement, hoping their intense opposition will translate into votes in provincial elections slated for Jan. 31 and a general election late next year.

BAGHDAD — Chanting "no to America," supporters of a radical Shiite cleric burned an effigy of President George W. Bush Friday in a protest demanding parliament scuttle a U.S.-Iraqi security pact...
BAGHDAD — Chanting "no to America," supporters of a radical Shiite cleric burned an effigy of President George W. Bush Friday in a protest demanding parliament scuttle a U.S.-Iraqi security pact...
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- conniedogs I'm a Fan of conniedogs 13 fans permalink

Why on earth would they do a thing like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 11/21/2008
- JayKlein I'm a Fan of JayKlein 4 fans permalink

Maybe they didnt like Operation Freedom or Bushy hurt their feelings by not supporting Jay-Mac enough during campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 11/21/2008
- jhink465 I'm a Fan of jhink465 13 fans permalink

Uh oh! The Iraqis are giving Bush the shoe like they did with Saddam's statue. When the Iraqis give you the shoe you gotta know it's all over but the humming. Thousands of our best killed and wounded, billions spent and stolen from our treasury and all we get for our efforts is the shoe. Way to go Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 11/21/2008
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Oh yeah. When you see Bush's statue being pulled down, you know it's all over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 11/21/2008
- lletaa I'm a Fan of lletaa 10 fans permalink

death squads. how many mass graves are they finding. i hear about "50 bodies found in mass grave, signs of torture." remmember our help we gave to Chile. thats our style. we train and help their security forces to kill anyone they suspect as an enemy. these mass graves they find around bagdad are our doing, you can bet on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 11/21/2008
- nefertiti I'm a Fan of nefertiti 9 fans permalink
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iletaa
they Have done that in vietnam too (not just in Honduras and Chile ) it was called the Phonenix program where even cars filled with explosives were used , teachers , mayors , intellectuals were tortured and killed to leave Vietnam unable to stand on its feet .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 11/21/2008
- 4peace I'm a Fan of 4peace 10 fans permalink

Lets not forget Panama, Nicaragua, and Haiti - oh, and the good old motherland, it seems there were some natives here...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 11/22/2008
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I'm surprised the Military hasn't said "we've had enough of this bullsh*t let em sink or swim on their own."

I can't think of any better incentive to become energy independent from the middle east then to just pull the hell out of there and get down to the business of leading the world out of Oil Dependency and into a new post industrial era.

Can you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 11/21/2008

Too bad Barack isn't pulling the troops out of Iraq anytime sooner than the current administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 11/21/2008
- denholt I'm a Fan of denholt 6 fans permalink

Memo to McCain / Palin: remember how you criticized President-Elect Obama for not using the word "victory" with regard to Iraq? Well, this would be one of the reasons why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 11/21/2008
- DBtv I'm a Fan of DBtv 37 fans permalink
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Hey, Iraqis, we feel your pain.

busholini inc is occupying our country, too, and we also have asked him and his henchmen to leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 11/21/2008
- Forester I'm a Fan of Forester 110 fans permalink
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what? They don't like us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 11/21/2008
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 613 fans permalink
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I thought burning Dubya in effigy was an everyday occurrence in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 11/21/2008
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 213 fans permalink
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"Al-Sadr, who controls a group of 30 lawmakers in the 275-seat parliament, views the deal as a surrender to U.S. interests."

And who defines these U.S. interests? I don't think it was in my interest to invade this country and it is not in my interest for our troops to remain. It is in the interest of the American people to start unwinding the mindless American Empire that "represents" its own interest as the "U.S. interest". I do not want an American Empire because it contribute nothing positive to our country. On the contrary, it sucks vital resources from our economy that could be put to a much better use, especially at these hard times. Kill the Empire and save our Republic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 11/21/2008
- scully09 I'm a Fan of scully09 2 fans permalink

Oh well!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 11/21/2008

"in a country where the U.S. presence is seen as an occupation" As opposed to the rest of the countries of the world where it's seen as a vast humanitarian polka party, resplendent with flowers and happy children happily playing in the streets.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 11/21/2008

Regardless of what Elizabeth Hasselbeck and her Republican cronies say, Iraq does not want the U.S in their country. How many times does one have to push you out of the door requesting you to leave?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 11/21/2008

Bullies are always the same........they keep pushing until something happens to put them in their place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 11/21/2008
- denholt I'm a Fan of denholt 6 fans permalink

Just remember: according to John McCain and all of the other Happy Republican Warriors, "we're winning in Iraq . . . the surge worked."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 11/21/2008
- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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The Iraqi parliment would have us out of their country now if they could manage it but US manipulation of their own government is allowing the US to "save face" by not being run off. However, if I understand this correctly, all US troops are to be out of the cities and on their bases within the year and out of the country within three.
Hmmmmm.
A Democracy would respect the autonomy of another nation and if that nation wished us to leave, we would do so. However, the political representation in the Iraqi parliment is for the US rather than the Iraqi people. If we heard from them, we would be out in a couple of months. We are there to support Halliburton and the pirating of Iraqi oil. Corporate influences have installed puppet politicians and our young men and women, God bless 'em, are there serving those interests rather than the people of Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 11/21/2008
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