Chinese Media Blasts Guns N' Roses Album

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First Posted: 11-24-08 08:36 AM   |   Updated: 12-25-08 05:12 AM

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AP STORY:

BEIJING - A newspaper published by China's ruling Communist Party is blasting the latest Guns N' Roses album as an attack on the Chinese nation.

Delayed since recording began in 1994, "Chinese Democracy" hit stores in the U.S. on Sunday, although it is unlikely to be sold legally in China, where censors maintain tight control over films, music and publications.

In an article Monday headlined "American band releases album venomously attacking China," the Global Times said unidentified Chinese Internet users had described the album as part of a plot by some in the West to "grasp and control the world using democracy as a pawn."

The album "turns its spear point on China," the article said.

China's Foreign Ministry did not respond to faxed questions about the article, although a spokesman speaking on routine condition of anonymity said: "We don't need to comment on that."

Spokesmen for the Culture Ministry and State Administration of Radio, Film and Television, government bodies that regulate album releases and performances, could not be reached for comment.

The Global Times article referred only to the title of the album and not to specific song lyrics. The record's title track makes a reference to the Falun Gong meditation movement that was banned by China as an "evil cult" and warns "if your Great Wall rocks blame yourself," in an apparent message to the country's authoritarian government.

Songs from the album could be heard on Internet sites such as YouTube and the band's MySpace page on Monday and it was not immediately possible to tell whether China's Internet monitors were seeking to block access to it.

Monitors use content filters that highlight and sometimes block messages containing words such as democracy. That prompted some Internet users to combine English and Chinese characters in their postings about the album to skirt such monitoring.

China approves only limited numbers of foreign films and recordings for distribution each year, partly due to political concerns but also to protect domestic producers.

Live performances are also closely regulated, with bands forced to submit set lists beforehand. The Rolling Stones were asked not to play several songs with suggestive lyrics during their 2006 China debut, including "Brown Sugar," "Honky Tonk Woman," "Beast of Burden" and "Let's Spend the Night Together."

Earlier this year, bandleader Harry Connick Jr. was forced to make last-minute changes to his show in Shanghai because an old song list was mistakenly submitted to Chinese authorities to secure the performance permit for the concert. Authorities insisted he play the songs on the original list, even though his band did not have the music for them.

That came just a week after Icelandic singer Bjork embarrassed authorities by shouting "Tibet!" at the end of a Shanghai concert, prompting stricter vetting of foreign performers.

Despite such restrictions, computer file sharing and pirating of DVDs, computer games and music CDs is rampant in China, meaning that much banned material is available through alternative channels.

READ MORE ON CHINA'S WAR ON GUNS N' ROSES HERE AP STORY: BEIJING - A newspaper published by China's ruling Communist Party is blasting the latest Guns N' Roses album as an attack on the Chinese nati...
READ MORE ON CHINA'S WAR ON GUNS N' ROSES HERE AP STORY: BEIJING - A newspaper published by China's ruling Communist Party is blasting the latest Guns N' Roses album as an attack on the Chinese nati...
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"it was not immediately possible to tell whether China's Internet monitors were seeking to block access to it."

This reeks of lazy, lazy journalism. Does the AP have people in China or not? Can you hit the GnR myspace page from China or not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 11/25/2008
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Based on my recollection of Guns & Roses' previous work my guess is the album title is much less a political statement than an attempt to *seem* rebellious to a market of over one billion people in China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 11/25/2008
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F$%k China

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 11/25/2008
- FairTalk I'm a Fan of FairTalk 18 fans permalink
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Thank goodness China banned Falun Goons. They were against other types of meditation and arts, such as Falun Goons said that anyone who did Tai Chi, Wu Shu etc would go to hell.

The Falun Goons encouraged, and even organized events where young pregnant women would stage hunger strikes, and mothers with young children would commit homicide/suicide by burning themselves to death.

Now, I do believe that if the Falun Goons had wanted to peacefully practice their "religeon" they could have done so, but staging these unfortunate acts, and scaring the s*** out of poor uneducated country folks is not something I can condone.

BTW, Falun is a town in Sweeden where Bush and the Bin Ladens used to frolic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 11/25/2008
- AndyDandy I'm a Fan of AndyDandy 4 fans permalink

Is it just me or are Communist way too obsesed over western music and films. First it was the Russians attacking Indy Jones and James Bond now it's the Chinese attacking some worn out rock star.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 AM on 11/25/2008
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Living in the United States myself, it's ideologues in my country who are way too obsessed over what's being banned in communist countries. They should pay more attention to our own country's censorship and lead more by actions. Talk is cheap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 11/25/2008
- LMPE I'm a Fan of LMPE 56 fans permalink

I'd never even heard of this album until around the time that it came out. I wondered what was up with its oxymoron title.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 11/25/2008
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I worked the road crew for GNR on their tour with Metallica. Believe me, Axhole Rose paid a serious personal price for his ugly personality and hateful ways -- sorry, "tortured artistry." I'm surprised he isn't dead (but he does look like he's been drinking the Kool-Aid).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 11/24/2008
- nowalnuts I'm a Fan of nowalnuts 3 fans permalink

At least that was expected... the punch he got from Tommy Hilfiger a couple years ago wasn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 11/24/2008
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Hmmm, seem the media was all cool with the idea of China banning Jay Z,no hoopla at all.As a matter of fact they reported it with glee and agreement.What goes around comes around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 11/24/2008
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I used the song Civil War by GnRs as background music in an slide show I made for You Tube and they forced me to pull it I was actually doing them a favor by advertising them, what a tight as s Axel is..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 11/24/2008
- Destin I'm a Fan of Destin 55 fans permalink
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Many acts are like that, I posted some Rose Hill videos on my YouTube site and some of them showing the areas where the Allman Brothers used to hang out and where 2 of them are buried, I used a couple of their songs on 2 of the videos. Used a mixer to do the audio while recording everything into a vcr, then recorded back onto my computer, so I know there was no "digital signature" to give away that I was using their music. However, I did put the song titles in the name, lol. Both videos were disallowed by YouTube immediately after upload due to copyright claims by the Allman Brothers. So I had to use the stupid YouTube generic music finder thing to put in generic music to the video. Then posted messages "Too bad, their loss on advertising". ;o)

It's not just Axl or G'n'R that's making those decisions after all. Last time I checked, Geffen Records still owned all the rights to all the previous music that GNR put out. So it's without a doubt, David Geffen who is blocking YouTube using any of his artists without big money payments. I have NEVER liked that company or the idiot who it's named for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 11/24/2008
- Revolt916 I'm a Fan of Revolt916 2 fans permalink
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Sorates
China is communist. Cuba is communist. So why are we doing business with China but not with Cuba?
Because we have been brainwashed, hoodwinked and bambozzled. That 's why. Thank the CFR FOR THIS NONSENSE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 11/24/2008
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Because Cuba doesn't manufacture and export 80% of the sold goods on the entire planet like China does. Why would you even WANT to 'Buy Cuban'?? And if you shop at Wal-Mart and only choose items based on price points, importers won't have a choice but to always buy from China. And no other country on the planet can compete with them. Nobody. That's reality, not some idealistic situation you seem to think it is. Remember that the next time you're in Wal-Mart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 11/24/2008
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And because Cuba can't loan Bush $1 billion a day. If Cuba had oil, they could be totalitarian and Bush would wash their feet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 11/24/2008
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Why would you even WANT to 'Buy Cuban'??
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Regional Stability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 11/25/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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No wonder why Republicans hate America and love China so much, that kind of authoritarian Communist culture sings right to the heart of people like Limbaugh, Murdoch and his merry gang of traitors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 11/24/2008

It's also CLASS BIAS: Republicans want to monopolize sales and distribution in the U.S. of goods made at "coolie" wages thus cutting out workers in domestic manufacturing.

Republicans champion the "race to the bottom" as long as they're not the ones whose jobs/livlihoods are outsourced!

Republicans and neo-cons ONLY understand FORCE, financial or physical!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 11/25/2008

That country stinks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 11/24/2008
- RedDogBear I'm a Fan of RedDogBear 65 fans permalink
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Careful not to insult them. Thanks to Bush who has piled up billions in debt owed to them (to pay for his wars, tax breaks, etc.) they may stink but they more or less own us at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 11/25/2008

China isn't Communist. It's w or se.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 11/24/2008

Mainland China isn't Communist. It's worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 11/24/2008
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