Obama And Senate Dems Prepping For Quick, Massive Stimulus Package

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First Posted: 11-24-08 12:00 PM   |   Updated: 12-25-08 05:12 AM

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A high-ranking official in Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's office has confirmed that Democratic leadership is looking to have a stimulus package ready for Barack Obama to sign shortly upon taking office.

Jim Manley, a spokesman for Reid, backed up reports from Sunday and early Monday that Congress would work on a massive stimulus package to be prepared for a presidential signature on January 21st. The hope -- as Obama himself noted during a press conference announcing his economic team on Monday -- is to hit the ground running once he takes office, in efforts to repair the teetering economy.

"I want to see [a stimulus package] enacted right away. It is going to be of a size and scope that is needed to get this economy back on track," he said. "We have a consensus, which is pretty rare, between conservative economists and liberal economists that we need a big stimulus package that will jolt the economy back into shape and that it is focused on ... delivering the 2.5 million jobs I am talking about."

Obama would not get into the details of what, exactly, the stimulus would look like. "I don't want to get into numbers right now," he said.

Another plugged in Democratic aide, however, said economic advisers for the president-elect, in particular Jason Furman, have been in touch with the relevant members of Congress to begin shaping legislation. The group is looking at a package that could be as high as five percent of the GDP (which is where the $700 billion figure has come from) but would likely end up in the $100 billion to $500 billion range. Included in the language, it was predicted, would be spending on infrastructure, aide to states, money for health care programs and transportation projects, middle class tax relief or tax-incentives for job creation, and direct assistance to certain industries (see, potentially: auto).

The package, or course, is a work in progress, complicated by the fact that the Obama team has to defer for the time being to the current president. But as the president-elect begins to fill out his economic team, starting with the staffing announcements on Monday, things should roll move at a more accelerated pace.

"Part of the task of this economic team behind me is to help shape the details of that plan," said Obama.

Added the aide: "You can see even before his inauguration, Congress rolling out the skeleton of what the stimulus could be... That could happen in the next few weeks... then we will have to sit down and hammer out the details. And you can envision that by the first weeks of January, Congress could push this thing forward."

Should there be GOP quibbles over the size or language of the bill, Obama could, the aide noted, simply introduce his own version through a member of Congress and call for an up or down vote.

There are a few minor obstacles in the way of a wildly expeditious passage of the stimulus package -- though, there should be no doubt, the bill will almost certainly be passed. For starters, the Senate is not in session (save for a meeting in early December to discuss a loan to the Big Three automakers) until January 6th. Members will be around from then through the inauguration, but that might not be enough time for the contours of a package to be hammered out. They will want their "say in the process," noted one Senate aide.

A high-ranking official in Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's office has confirmed that Democratic leadership is looking to have a stimulus package ready for Barack Obama to sign shortly upon taking ...
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since California plans to raise taxes and cut spending, the effect of the federal stimulus will be significantly lessened. (California needs to come up with a "plan" and the feds need to help us with bailout money.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 11/24/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

most states are cutting spending to relfelct less federal money, something an obama administration most likely will change

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 11/24/2008

federal government is doing one thing and states and local governments are doing exactly the opposite

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 11/24/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

California recalled the last guy for deficit spending, then Arnold ballooned it times 10.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 11/24/2008
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 411 fans permalink
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This is starting to look like the Faux Noise channel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 11/24/2008

It kills me to see the number of people who are posting that are upset that Obama is creating jobs. These are the same people who were convinced that he was lining welfare up for all Americans who were too lazy to work!!! Why are people so angry that he wants to help people work? It seems it's cheaper to create jobs (that people will pay taxes on) rather than pay unemployment, welfare, or medicaid!!!

The Bush administration created a huge debt without once thinking about the American people, and now that we have a president who is thinking about the American people, we can't afford to spend the $$$? WTF?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 11/24/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

WTF?
they are repeating lame talking points from AM radio
that's WTF

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 11/24/2008
- argent1 I'm a Fan of argent1 16 fans permalink

Creating jobs that actually produce something for our money is one thing. Making job slots to have twice as many workers on a road project than you need is another form - government style.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 11/24/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

nice made-up example
typical con argument

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 11/24/2008
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 32 fans permalink

You do know the Bush administration has created jobs by sinking $10B a month in Iraq. Soldiers kept out of our workforce create positions for others, plus hundreds of thousands of contractors both there and here who support them. There's a huge works program going on right now, but it is highly inefficient and provides us with nothing to show for it. Obama's plan, by contrast, puts the focus here. It's more efficient and result-oriented.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 11/24/2008

Why don't they just cut out the welfare portion of the stimulus package and lower taxes by $700 million? That'll work equally as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 11/24/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

thats the kind of thinking that got us into this crisis

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 11/24/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

And target it all at the top .00001%, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 11/24/2008
- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 84 fans permalink
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Oh, you mean the bail-out money? I'm afraid that's already spent - $700 million and a whole lot more. That must be the "welfare" to which you allude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 11/24/2008

The only thing Obama's stimulus package will be stimulating is heart attacks.

The only glimmer of hope we have is that Obama is apparently reconsidering his pledge to roll back the Bush tax cuts. Bully for him. I guess he isn't as dumb as he made himself out to be during the campaign. But I wonder how long he will be able to keep that pledge when trillion dollar budget deficits start showing up on the national balance sheet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 11/24/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

Bush - the guy you voted for - TWICE- created trillion $ deficits with NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT
your lame criticism and JR High understanding of ecconomics are the wrongheaded thinking that led to the current crisis

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 11/24/2008

Do they really think Bush's tax cuts for big business and the wealthy helped the economy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 11/24/2008

Yea, because tax cuts for the rich have worked SO marvelously the last eight years. Check your history books or your google. During America's fastest growth period (the 50's and 60's) the tax rate for the highest bracket was over 90% Yup, you read that right. You remember the 50's and 60's right? It was the age when everyone who was willing to work could afford a car and house. Somehow, we managed to get by without letting billionaires eat our lunch twice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 11/24/2008
- harveyr2 I'm a Fan of harveyr2 19 fans permalink

Horray!! More money from the government to fix the mess that they created.

Get out of my pocketbook. Get out of my kid's pocketbook. Get out of my grandkid's pocketbook.

The more money government disburses the more that those politicized decisions will be wrong.

Tell me who in the Obama administration is the Chief Product Planner for the auto industry? None of them, yet they have the intelligence to lecture Detroit on the automobiles that the tax paying citizens want. Absurd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 11/24/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

THe last ord of your opinion pretty much sums up everything you wrote
ABSURD
you have no understanding of how the economy works
if cutting rich people's taxes helped the economy- we wouldn't be in this mess

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 11/24/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

Have you been saying this for the last 8 years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 11/24/2008
- doublesvb I'm a Fan of doublesvb 4 fans permalink
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Who is the chief product planner for the auto industry? I don't know but they obviously need some help in that department. I'm sure Obama can appoint someone with superior knowledge (maybe a Honda bigwig).
As for the "tax-paying citizens" wanting those automobiles, what are you smoking? If Americans wanted outdated gas hogs they wouldn't be bankrupt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 11/24/2008
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CAN WE GET IT B4 CHRISTMAS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 11/24/2008

The first bailout of 700 billion had a pricetag of 700 billion plus 150 billion in pork, I wonder how much pork they will tag on to the "Stimulus Package"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 11/24/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 85 fans permalink

my guess- much less than went into 6 years of the Iraq war- if you really care

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 11/24/2008
- vedder110 I'm a Fan of vedder110 7 fans permalink
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Wrong.

The U.S. government is prepared to provide more than $7.76 trillion on behalf of American taxpayers after guaranteeing $306 billion of Citigroup Inc. debt yesterday. The pledges, amounting to half the value of everything produced in the nation last year, are intended to rescue the financial system after the credit markets seized up 15 months ago.

The unprecedented pledge of funds includes $3.18 trillion already tapped by financial institutions in the biggest response to an economic emergency since the New Deal of the 1930s, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The commitment dwarfs the plan approved by lawmakers, the Treasury Department’s $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program. Federal Reserve lending last week was 1,900 times the weekly average for the three years before the crisis.

The money that’s been pledged is equivalent to $24,000 for every man, woman and child in the country. It’s nine times what the U.S. has spent so far on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to Congressional Budget Office figures. It could pay off more than half the country’s mortgages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 11/25/2008
- Oldtimer I'm a Fan of Oldtimer 19 fans permalink
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Once again I ask Who is going to change the rules on credit card interest?
I pay a whopping 24% on one and a usury rate of 29% on another - both under
Bank of America. Why can't Democrats pass legislation that caps card interest at 18%???
Isn't that enough profit? I see all these bank bailouts and yet nobody is talking about
the usury of credit card interest. Where is the concern for the middle class here?
Where is the media on this issue? Oh yea, right. The networks run credit card
commercials during prime time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 11/24/2008

What gets me about you Americans is you want low taxes and yet pay thru the nose for credit.

I guess you don't know you pay about double for an item under credit.

Add up all the interest you pay in a year. LOL

No wonder we are much richer than you here in Europe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 11/24/2008
- lafrance I'm a Fan of lafrance 38 fans permalink

so true. Alot of what Americans are paying through the nose for with credit cards and out of their pockets they could be paying so much less if we had to just pay a tax and get it for free.
If we payed a little more in taxes it would be a hundred times cheaper then what we actually pay out of our own pocket now for something like Health Care.
the republicans really sold a bill of goods to the American people and convinced them that the con game they pulled on them was actually good for them and was so much better.
Never underestimate the gullibility of the American people and their willingness to fall for any old con the republicans sell them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 11/24/2008

About double? Not so. Maybe in Europe. I just bought a laptop on credit - paid it off before the payments even kicked in, but even if I had waited a year to pay it off, I would have paid maybe $200 extra (on a $1200 machine).

Still I completely agree with you. We here in the USA cry if anyone talks about raising taxes, and then wonder why we have a broken healthcare system and a crumbling infrastructure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 11/24/2008

Ask Joe Biden for help the CC Companies have him in thier pocket

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 11/24/2008

I couldn't agree more. Plus all their other 'fees' like $15 to pay by phone. We need a grassroots campaign on this. I think Biden is the kind of VP who wouldn't fight this now that he's not in the Senate. They may not kneecap you if you get behind but they make your life just as miserable. No more credit card use for me--cash only (except online purchases).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 11/24/2008

http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=274257

http://brown.senate.gov/newsroom/in_the_news/article/?id=775ef4fe-5fb5-4766-94f6-80a095fad911

The democrats are working on protecting Americans from credit card companies. It was lobbying by the credit card companies and big banks that changed bankruptcy laws at the same time as they raised their interest rates and fees.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0313-02.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 11/24/2008
- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 84 fans permalink
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Holy Smokes! What kind of credit card do you have? The interest rate on my MC is 6.9% and has been for years. I quit using it several months ago after paying off the balance, so am waiting to see if they get antsy about it and raise my rate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 11/24/2008

I don't know about the rest of America, but I am truely impressed with President Elect Barack. He is showing the depth of his intellectual side, and the broadness of his curiosity for understanding complex problems by bringing on board smart leaders across the board. What Barack is showing is what is truely meant by "Country First". I am so proud of President Elect, and for the first time in a very long time I feel like finally this is the Country in which I love and raised my right hand to protect when I entered into The United States Army. Keep praying for our President Elect, and for our Country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 11/24/2008
- lafrance I'm a Fan of lafrance 38 fans permalink

This is what having a smart and grown up president is.
While the republicans and the lapdog media have been busy trying to tell people that intellectual presidents are so bad and that they want a guy they can get drunk with, Obama knew the people were ready to reject this bit of fairy tale and vote for a president who had a brain and wasn't afraid to show it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 11/24/2008
- DIAGER I'm a Fan of DIAGER 10 fans permalink

My Gawd, it's great to FINALLY have an intelligent President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 11/24/2008
- BlueZoo I'm a Fan of BlueZoo 44 fans permalink

Where is all this money coming from? I'm worried...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 11/24/2008

they will type in a number and add a few zeros at a terminal and there it is.

there is NOTHING backing that money

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 11/24/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 230 fans permalink
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Looks to me as if there is very little backing for MOST currancies with this world wide contamination. The masters of the universe seem to have contracted a s e x u a l transmitted disease.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 11/24/2008
- ensure I'm a Fan of ensure 4 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 11/24/2008
- nogimmicks I'm a Fan of nogimmicks 28 fans permalink

We have seen already what "quick" really means. It means that everyone squeezes in pork and leaves deliberate loopholes under the pretext of time pressures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 11/24/2008
- hotstuff I'm a Fan of hotstuff 5 fans permalink

If they would include people on S.S.I disablity this time on stimulus package, it would go directly back into the community! They get only $627.00 mo. to live on, and can't have no more! Real shame!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 11/24/2008
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