Economic Bailout Roundup: The Many Numbers Being Thrown Around

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AP/HuffPost   |   November 25, 2008 12:55 PM



The Treasury and Fed added to the ever-growing confusion over various bailout plans by announcing two new multi-billion dollar efforts today. At the same time, President-elect Barack Obama urged fiscal restraint while announcing additional members for his economic team. Obama plans to push through a stimulus package that has it's own price tag of
$500 billion to $700 billion over two years.

At a press conference early in the day, Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson revealed an $800 billion plan to help unfreeze consumer debt, a program that he called vital.

Paulson says key markets for consumer debt such as credit cards, auto loans and student loans essentially came to a halt in October. He says the new programs are aimed to get lending back to more normal levels.


Paulson says all the government programs have been aimed at supporting the lending that is vital to the economy.


According to The Washington Post
, Paulson's plan "is largely separate from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, administered by the Treasury Department and focused on shoring up the country's financial system."


The Federal Reserve today also announced a separate $600 billion dollar plan to buy up mortgage-backed assets.

The Fed said it will purchase up to $100 billion in direct obligations from mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as well as the Federal Home Loan Banks. It also will purchase another $500 billion in mortgage-backed securities, pools of mortgages that are bundled together and sold to investors.


The $600 billion effort on mortgages came as the Fed also unveiled a new program to help unfreeze the market that backs consumer debt such as credit cards, auto loans and student loans.


Finally, President-elect Barack Obama held his second economic press conference today and introduced Peter Orszag as his budget director saying, ""Budget reform is not an option. It's a necessity."

Obama's focus on careful federal spending marked something of a contrast from Monday, when he declared that restoring the economy to health took priority over the budget deficit. He called on Congress to prepare an economic stimulus program for him to sign as soon after Inauguration day as possible. Estimates of the measure range from $500 billion to $700 billion over two years.


"We are going to have to jump-start the economy ... but we have to make sure that those investments are wise. We have to make sure we are not wasting money in every area," he said Tuesday, defining the two objectives that will guide his economic program.

The Treasury and Fed added to the ever-growing confusion over various bailout plans by announcing two new multi-billion dollar efforts today. At the same time, President-elect Barack Obama urged fisca...
The Treasury and Fed added to the ever-growing confusion over various bailout plans by announcing two new multi-billion dollar efforts today. At the same time, President-elect Barack Obama urged fisca...
 
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ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION IN LOVE WITH DEBT. What could possibly go wrong?

More revelations present a better and more accurate view of the nature and attitude that can be expected from the Obama Presidency. And now for a taste of its attitude regarding DEBT....

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/12/obama-second-tell_10.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 12/12/2008

Don't cut spending in a depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 12/21/2008

Stop Copying Hoover, and start following FDR!

Invest trillions in wind, solar, infrastructure, states, unemployed, facing foreclosure.

Giving these bailout to gambling banks will Force us into the Depression,

Just like the GOP conservatives want,

So they can drown the US gov in a bathtub.

THE GOP IS PURPOSELY PUSHING THE ECONOMY OVER THE CLIFF!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 11/29/2008
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It's time to bleed the corporatists dry. DIVEST. We need to abandon them. As long as we have "faith" in the central banking system and its currencies, and its debt based consumerist *cough* "culture" *cough* the music keeps playing and they keep stealing. As soon as faith is gone the music stops, and all that's left for them to do is 1) play Repo Man and 2) buy up devalued assets at fire sale prices. We might as well get it over with because the parasites are about to kill the host in any case.

For some people (with nothing left to lose) "divestiture" can be as radical as giving up a home, an income tax revolt or cessation of payments to Citibank, filing for bankruptcy with a one-fingered salute. People with jobs and/or investments should divest from ANY paper assets, which are ALL about to become useless and US "culture" is about to get it's kiester kicked into the dark ages. A debt free 1900's-styled existence with commodity wealth (bullion, land, food, practical gear, blue collar skills, community ties) is the trick to surviving ANY major upheaval. We can also do things like tax avoidance, or changing banks, or combining family resources. One paid-for home is better than three mortgaged ones, even if you take a loss to achieve it. It all boils down to cutting losses, reconciling with family, and positioning oneself as favorably as possible before the music stops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 11/26/2008
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What about this... What about that... This is an outrage... Someone needs to... Then you just go back to watching TV, clicking around on the Internet, and sit back while nothing gets done and more and more gets taken from you. Hmm... my cable is still on, McDonald's is still open, I guess I don't have to do anything yet. Americans have lost their balls, stripped of the power to rise up, trained to obey with fear. Fattened up, designer drugged out, beaten into submission. You won't do anything but blah blah blah... type type type... and you wonder why it is the way it is. We all deserve what we have for allowing it to happen. Change? Get out in the street and MAKE change!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 11/26/2008

Im feeling you. Everybody please watch a movie called "esoteric agenda" on google video. It clarifies what is happening to this country, this is but only the beginning of a bigger strategy to dominate the world and enslave everbody in it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 AM on 11/26/2008
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Forget watching movies, blogging, commenting, dominating strategies, world orders, etc. This is our organizing tool, the Internet. So let's get organized. Imagine the feeling of unity our President would have seeing millions of us in a united front marching on Washington in support of returning our nation to the land of the free and the home of the BRAVE!

My purpose is to organize a massive, unified demonstration of millions of American citizens who are willing to march on the nation's Capitol, on our nation's birthday, July 4th, 2009, not throwing comments back and forth. It has to start somewhere, I am starting it right here, right now, in this present moment. Actions speak louder than words, this is my action.

Help! Arianna Huffington, Neil Young, Tom Edsall, Hilary Rosen, Seth Walls, Jason Linkins, Sam Stein... and all the other influential people who work for and use this site. Can we all band together in a unified front and take all this stuff to the nation's Capitol in a unified movement, instead of just talking about it? I am calling all of you out, who will respond?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 11/26/2008
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Protesting is pointless. The corporatists just dont care. The only way to make them sit up and take notice is by putting our money where our mouths are, by bleeding them DRY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 11/26/2008
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Besides, physical revolt is just the ticket for them to live out their martial law wet dreams.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 11/26/2008

Why doesn't Congress investage where this money is going, not have hearings then do nothing?
We the people want the truth, we demand the truth!
Why doesn't Obama have this investaged and tell us the truth?
Maybe that crook Bush & Paulson have done something so bad and have hidden it so well that no one will ever know the truth.
Does anyone trust Bush?
Why did Congress believe Bush & Paulson for the original bailout?
Are we bailing out China?
I demand the truth!
What about the state bonds that were insured by AIG and are now worthless?
If no one has a job to pay taxes how do we repay this huge Bush debt?
Is this Bushy's master plan for this country?
Is this the end of the USA?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 11/26/2008
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Paulson and Bernake should have to forgo any type of golden parachute what so ever. That's the least they can give up when they should be facing criminal charges.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 11/26/2008

While the bailouts are a stomach-churning thing all-around, it is interesting to me to see Treasury, the Senate Dems and (seemingly) most of the Republican party chastise the auto execs while simultaneously "bailing out" Citigroup and AIG with blank checks. While the Big Three's top execs and their "head in the sand" mentality have certainly darkened any hope for financial assistance, it seems that the people who pay when the Big Three isn't helped are the working class (and in many instances, the working poor). Detroit's auto companies are built on the labor of blue-collar men and women who have always been on the short end of their companies' mindless executive forces. It is both frustrating and angering that when the rich (ie: Wall Street, banks, and other financial institutions with convenient ties to Paulson and elected officials) need money, it is readily available; when the 3 million plus workers whose jobs are tied to auto companies need help, they are told to help themselves. It seems that Treasury and Congress are redefining "bailout" as a "help the rich" package...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 11/25/2008
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I'd settle for two new replacements for both Anglers Paulson and Bernanke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 11/25/2008
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Any chance for a little help for the the rest of us who have been bled dry the last 8 years???

It's going to be a dry Holiday Season this year!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 11/25/2008

Here's an idea. Obama received millions and millions of dollars in small donations by people who seek real change. We, the people, could start another campaign to Bail Ourselves Out ("BOO"), made up of small donors, to pay off the mortgages, auto loans, college debt, and credit cards of the struggling middle class. Together we could save our homes, our cars, and our credit, and tell the greedy powermongers who set out to destroy us to take a hike. That makes more sense than handing over our hard-earned tax dollars to big business, with zero assurance that it will ever benefit the hard-working people who are being asked to pay for their mistakes. If we can pay all the money we owe, and no more, the power will shift back to the middle class -- the ones who can handle it. The greedy ^&*%**!!! will have gotten all they are owed and we'll see if they can live with that. What do you say about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 11/25/2008
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Sounds reasonable--but we're talking billions, not millions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 11/25/2008

Billions, right, but I'm not talking about bailing out the investors, the banking industry, and the Big Three. I'm talking about helping the little people. There would be a vetting process -- debts of the well-off and wealthy would not qualify. Debts of those whose jobs have gone overseas never to return would qualify. Imagine what the middle class could do if it were suddenly debt free? (For all the money wasted on Katrina, the government could have provided a new home for every family in the NInth Ward. As it is, Bush's cronies got rich on no-bid contracts and the people who lost everything got sick in temporary toxic trailers.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 11/25/2008

New folk song for these times:

Bailout Blues

I got them seven hundred billion kill ya
upper east side diamonds thrill ya
seersucker motherf***er
wall street worship
god of trillions blues
Welcome to the Bailout Blues

Now people come from yonderway
I wanna hear you scream with rage
there's no such thing as a living wage blues
Welcome to the Bailout Blues

Put your hands up
in the air
wave 'em round
like you just don't care
you're being robbed
Welcome to the Bailout Blues

www.joelmooreusa.com/bailoutblooz

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 11/25/2008
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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 11/25/2008

How are we going to infinitely prop up businesses that are designed to fail? What if we are just prolonging the inevitable, and using up any future money the country has to do it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 11/25/2008

Well, America as we once knew it is over. I guess the real question is, what does America become now with no money, more borrowed money than the country can pay back, and all the wealthiest people in the nation (people like Paulson) benefiting from huge bailouts every couple of weeks? If only the founding fathers of the country were here to see what the government has done, and that the people no longer have the power to stop it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 11/25/2008
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I'm sure they would be furious with us for letting it happen. They sacrificed their lives and their own money for the Revolution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 11/25/2008

this is all just cr.a.p.

what about new orleans, what about our infrastructure? who are these people? how does any of this go towards building a good stable society for all, and solve problems?

how long will we all put up with bailing out some other company who is "going under". we are told this is to "save" the economy. c'mon in, it's been in the sh i t ter for quite a while already.

does anybody really think this is going to fix a single thing?

Money down the rabbit hole is all it is...more disaster capitalism at work!

just a rip off, no matter how you slice it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 11/25/2008
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