Florida Gay Adoption Ban Ruled Unconstitutional

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CURT ANDERSON | 11/25/08 07:39 PM | AP

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MIAMI — A judge on Tuesday ruled that a strict Florida law that blocks gay people from adopting children is unconstitutional, declaring there was no legal or scientific reason for sexual orientation alone to prohibit anyone from adopting.

Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Cindy Lederman said the 31-year-old law violates equal protection rights for the children and their prospective gay parents, rejecting the state's arguments that there is "a supposed dark cloud hovering over homes of homosexuals and their children."

She noted that gay people are allowed to be foster parents in Florida. "There is no rational basis to prohibit gay parents from adopting," she wrote in a 53-page ruling.

Florida is the only state with an outright ban on gay adoption. Arkansas voters last month approved a measure similar to a law in Utah that bans any unmarried straight or gay couples from adopting or fostering children. Mississippi bans gay couples, but not single gays, from adopting.

The ruling means that Martin Gill, 47, and his male partner can adopt two brothers, ages 4 and 8, whom he has cared for as foster children since December 2004.

"I've never seen myself as less than anybody else," Gill said. "We're very grateful. Today, I've cried the first tears of joy in my life."

He said the two boys have been practicing writing their new last names, and the older one said: "That's what's going to make us a family."

Attorneys for the American Civil Liberties Union, who represent Gill, said the case was the first in the nation in which numerous experts in child psychology, social work and other fields testified that there is no science to justify a gay adoption ban.

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The state planned a swift appeal, likely setting up a battle that could reach the Florida Supreme Court. A judge in gay-friendly Key West also found the law unconstitutional in September, but that ruling has not been appealed and has limited legal reach.

The state presented experts who claimed there was a higher incidence of drug and alcohol abuse among gay couples, that they were more unstable than heterosexual unions and that the children of gay couples suffer a societal stigma.

Organizations such as the American Academy of Pediatrics, American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association all support permitting same-sex couples to adopt.

Lederman rejected all the state's arguments soundly.

"It is clear that sexual orientation is not a predictor of a person's ability to parent," the judge wrote. "A child in need of love, safety and stability does not first consider the sexual orientation of his parent. The exclusion causes some children to be deprived of a permanent placement with a family that is best suited to their needs."

Florida Assistant Attorney General Valerie Martin said an appeal would be filed on behalf of the state Department of Children & Families. She declined additional comment.

Neil Skene, special counsel for DCF, said the judge did an "excellent job" on the case, but the department still must enforce state law. He noted that DCF placed the foster children with Gill.

"We think this is a wonderful foster parent," Skene said.

Reaction came quickly from advocates of gay, lesbian and transgender parents who have long considered Florida's law the most draconian in the nation. Jennifer Chrisler, executive director of the Boston-based Family Equality Council, said the decision is a "long-overdue recognition of the equal ability of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people to raise happy, healthy families."

"The best interests of children should be decided by parents, families, professionals and judges, not opportunistic politicians and interest groups," Chrisler said.

John Stemberger, chairman of a successful drive earlier this month to pass a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage in Florida, called the ruling "classic judicial activism" and predicted it would be reversed on appeal.

"Everywhere in the law where children are affected, the standard must always be what is in the best interest of the child," said Stemberger, an attorney in Orlando. "What is stunning to me is that when it comes to dealing with gays, that standard goes out the window. Children do better with a mother and a father."

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Associated Press Writer Bill Kaczor in Tallahassee contributed to this report.

MIAMI — A judge on Tuesday ruled that a strict Florida law that blocks gay people from adopting children is unconstitutional, declaring there was no legal or scientific reason for sexual orienta...
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- Madmac I'm a Fan of Madmac 17 fans permalink
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Thank You God for Judge Lederman. From what I see this is a common sense ruling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 11/25/2008
- rmetz74 I'm a Fan of rmetz74 10 fans permalink

Fantastic!!!

This won't get the kind of press Prop 8 did... The Right wants everyone to think the country is united against gay rights.But this kind of progress is happening all the time, all over the country. Its only a matter of time.

Our children's children will think it incredible that there was a time when gays didn't have equal rights - just the way we see interracial marriage's past. And thank god.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 11/25/2008
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it really won't get the press...yo­u are right.

thank god someone out there has a brain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 11/25/2008

but where does Charlie Crist stand on this issue?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 11/25/2008
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Depends. Do you mean secretly or openly ?

;p

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 11/25/2008

WOOOOOOOHO­OOOOOOOOO. God, a zillion children in foster care and orphanages just breathed a sigh of relief. There is nothing less Christian that denying a child a loving home, and instead allowing them to grow up unruddered, unhomed and unloved. I would wager the bigots fighting against gay adoption have no idea what it is like to grow up never having been a part of a family. The trauma of that on a person's life is immeasurable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 11/25/2008
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Thank GOD!

YES I SAID IT YOU BLOODY BIGOTED CHRISTIANS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 11/25/2008
- jamie461 I'm a Fan of jamie461 21 fans permalink

They're not really Christians. They are "Christianists," as Andrew Sullivan calls them. I'm a Christian, and I have never been taught to hate gays and have always believed they should have equal rights under the law. There is nothing in true Christianity that backs up their bigotry, and I hate that they use Christianity as justification for what they think, say, and do. It's a mockery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 11/25/2008
- wisdom101 I'm a Fan of wisdom101 3 fans permalink

I strongly believe that God gave females inate bilities for child rearing strong suites and males certain strong suites to raise a wholeome child; All things being equal.

I know the gay community will shout me down for this, but the system is designed for male and female for raising wholesome kids and well rounded of the meaining of pro-creation. Mommy and Daddy is something every kid should expericence if all possible..­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 11/25/2008
- gaydm I'm a Fan of gaydm 8 fans permalink
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Tou have your beliefs. And then there is proof otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 11/25/2008

So in the absence of a mommy and a daddy it's better for kids to be with a single parent or no parent at all instead of loving gay parents?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 11/25/2008
- wisdom101 I'm a Fan of wisdom101 3 fans permalink

If it was my choice as a kid, I would pefer a role model or support from a relative or somethng for a substitute­....

When I have kids later on as an adult, I will ensure that my kids have a mommy and daddy....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 11/25/2008

Yeah, Susan Smith was an awesome mom... blech.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 11/25/2008
- wisdom101 I'm a Fan of wisdom101 3 fans permalink

Although she mismanaged her family, it s till does not negate the beauty and awsomenes of having a mommy and daddy . (PERIOD) As I mention, all things being equal....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 11/25/2008
- rmetz74 I'm a Fan of rmetz74 10 fans permalink

That's a sweet idea, but we know reality is that there are lots of BAD mommies and daddies raising kids who would be far better off with two GOOD sane sex parents.

The question is not whether a traditional family is best (which is highly questionable, whatever you believe), the question is whether kids are better off with twoloving parents of any gender than they are in the foster system - and only blatant bigotry could say yes to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 11/25/2008

In that case, you would also want to see it illegal for straight parents to divorce, yes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 11/25/2008
- lotuslike I'm a Fan of lotuslike 8 fans permalink

Ok...now let's overturn prop 8!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 11/25/2008
- scjk67 I'm a Fan of scjk67 131 fans permalink
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this prop 8 may likely go all the way to supreme court, last thing i ever want is NOT for the religous right wingers to control this country!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 11/25/2008
- mlaiuppa I'm a Fan of mlaiuppa 37 fans permalink
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First you forbid abortion. Then you forbid "certain people" from adopting the very kids the 'pro lifers' demanded be born.

Why do these people HATE? They hate kids. They hate adults. They hate anyone that isn't *exactly* like them.

This is NOT what America was founded on. This is NOT what the United States stands for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 11/25/2008
- SiberianRat I'm a Fan of SiberianRat 135 fans permalink
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Exactly. They never have an answer for this one either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 11/25/2008
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"they" believe in children's rights until the child comes out of the womb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 11/25/2008
- MACS I'm a Fan of MACS permalink

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Actually they are pro-fetus not pro-life. Also notice they are also in favor of capital punishment. So much for pro-life fundanmentalist evangelicals.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 11/25/2008
- Eric8869 I'm a Fan of Eric8869 25 fans permalink

No kidding - once a child is born they are against giving money to the poor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 11/26/2008

It's all about control and domination. Their theocracy has nothing to do with love.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 11/25/2008
- Cynth I'm a Fan of Cynth 13 fans permalink

They hate any threat of or deviation from their "Prefect World Order."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 11/25/2008
- labman57 I'm a Fan of labman57 36 fans permalink
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The argument used to support these types of bans is that they reflect "the will of the people". If that logic was constitutional sound, African-Americans would still be riding in the back of the bus in most southern states.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 11/25/2008

Exactly, there is a reason the founding fathers set up the Constitution the way they did.

They feared Mob Rule.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 11/25/2008
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 74 fans permalink
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Civil Rights Act was the "will of the people"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 11/25/2008
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Here we go with the civil rights lingo. Please fight your own battles and stop trying to hi-jack my struggle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 11/25/2008
- cdub1991 I'm a Fan of cdub1991 58 fans permalink

The term "civil rights" is in no way reserved just for African Americans. This is, at it's core, a civil rights issue. It's about the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. It's about not arbitrarily designating one group as "the other" and saying its okay to treat them worse simply everybody says it's okay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 11/25/2008
- KUjHwk I'm a Fan of KUjHwk 3 fans permalink

Are you serious?!
Your struggle?
As an African American woman I am INSULTED by your ig.norance and super.fici­al understanding of the history of the struggle. People didn't march and boy.cott and di.e just to improve the lot of people who look like us. Try reading King's Letter from a Birmi.ngha­m Jail. His efforts and the efforts of our community were meant to improve the lives of all PEOPLE and stamp our opres.sion EVERYWHERE in EVERY COM.MUNITY­!! Rac.ism and oppre.ssio­n just doesn't hurt the oppre.ssed­; it de.humaniz­es the oppre.ssor as well. Why do.n't you go educ.ate yourself. People like you are a dis.grace to progres.si­ve people of co.lor, and especially my commu.nity­, the bla.ck community!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 11/25/2008

"What is stunning to me is that when it comes to dealing with gays, that standard goes out the window. Children do better with a mother and a father." If you believe that Stemberger, start calling for a ban on single mothers and single fathers fathers. If people divorce, give their kids to foster parents until one of the parents remarries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 11/25/2008
- Topfeeder I'm a Fan of Topfeeder 35 fans permalink

Social conservatives are not equipped to comprehend logic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 11/25/2008

True...but hope springs eternal (especially since the election!).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 11/25/2008
- tabaqui I'm a Fan of tabaqui 4 fans permalink
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EXACTLY. Although, horrifyingly, I did hear some far-right Xian say that if a child was in a single-parent home, they'd be better off in an orphanage or foster care than with their biological, single parent.

The mind, it boggles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 11/25/2008
- paganmist I'm a Fan of paganmist 67 fans permalink

I'm bisexual and I've been a much better parent to my daughter than her heterosexual, lazeabout, absentee father (who was such a manly man that he had to smack me around when he got angry, including when I was pregnant) ever was.

Sexual orientation does NOT determine who would be a better parent. If it did, then hands-down, heterosexuals win the prize overall for worst parenting, and would lose all parenting rights. GLBT folk tend to be so happy to have the privilege of raising a child that they are impeccable parents, while too many heterosexuals run around getting divorces, fighting, divvying up their child as if the child is a piece of meat.

Screw anyone who thinks that GLBT folks can't be brilliant, loving, truly inspiring parents. And screw the mormons, who seem to have a little problem with pedophilia in their more insular communities, and yet somehow find the ground to throw stones.

Sometimes this country DISGUSTS me with its willingness to deprive GOOD people of their happiness, just because they are not "normal".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 11/25/2008
- lotuslike I'm a Fan of lotuslike 8 fans permalink

Great post...tha­nk you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 11/25/2008
- Aabby I'm a Fan of Aabby 30 fans permalink
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I think you are bias to other extreme. Sexual Orientation has nothing to with parenting, period. One can be a good/bad parent and be gay, strait or bi. One of the most horrendous cases of child abuse I have ever read about is by a lesbian couple. Anyway, this was a good legal move.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 11/25/2008
- lioness39 I'm a Fan of lioness39 47 fans permalink
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Kudoes to Judge Cindy Lederman!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 11/25/2008
- Dave01 I'm a Fan of Dave01 9 fans permalink

UN-EFFING-­REAL!!!!!!­!!! Why in the hell would the state prevent someone from adopting their siblings in the first place. It's okay to put kids in homes of gays as foster parents, but not allow them to adopt them? How effing ridiculous is that to begin with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 11/25/2008
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In your face, Mormon church leaders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 11/25/2008

"On your face" might be more appropriat­e.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 11/25/2008
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HUGE triumph for lots of kids! Congrats Florida. Keep the lucid judgments coming :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 11/25/2008
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