Report: Clinton Camp Fabricated Initial Obama "Offer"

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First Posted: 11-25-08 05:48 PM   |   Updated: 12-26-08 05:12 AM

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In the New York Review of Books, Elizabeth Drew sheds some more light on the behind-the-scenes wrangling between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama over the Secretary of State post:

Obama's meetings with Hillary Clinton and John McCain about playing important roles in his presidency indicated his imagination and his shrewdness, although sources close to Obama say he did not offer her the job of secretary of state when they met. He had said during the campaign that he wanted various views in his government, and in turning to his own former competitors, Obama was at the same time magnanimous and seeking to keep them close. Both were in a position to cause him difficulty in the Senate--Clinton, in particular, had kept her constituency intact (through HillPAC) and was planning her own Senate agenda, including her own health care program, no matter what Obama proposed. But Clinton lacks the seniority, and therefore a committee position from which to get her proposals taken up by the Senate. (She tried to get a special subcommittee appointed, but Edward M. Kennedy, who has his own health care plan and is chairman of the committee with jurisdiction over the issue, blocked her, offering her later a role concerning health insurance.) McCain had indicated that he wanted to help Obama in the Senate, and by taking him up on it, Obama has both flattered and coopted him.


Mrs. Clinton's and her closest advisers' turning a suggestion by the President-elect that she might, among other things, head the State Department into an "offer" and reports that she was agonizing over whether to accept it, did not please officials in Chicago, some of whom hoped that issues over disclosure of Bill Clinton's post-presidential record might block the appointment. But the former president's camp blocked that by promising to cooperate with requests for information and to accept limits on his activities, including clearance of speaking engagements abroad. Statements by the Hilary camp on November 21 saying that "she's ready" for the position but then backtracking, saying that some matters were "under discussion," typified the whole mess, the only snag thus far in an otherwise unusually smooth transition involving impressive choices--an object lesson to Obama (which he had reason to know already) that getting involved with the Clintons is rarely uncomplicated.

Read more about Clinton's potential Secretary of State position here.

In the New York Review of Books, Elizabeth Drew sheds some more light on the behind-the-scenes wrangling between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama over the Secretary of State post: Obama's meetings w...
In the New York Review of Books, Elizabeth Drew sheds some more light on the behind-the-scenes wrangling between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama over the Secretary of State post: Obama's meetings w...
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As exhibited by the numerous comments on this blog, HRC is a very politically polarizing individual; either you love her or hate her. I consider myself one of those rare individuals who is impartial to Clinton as a person, however I find her selection among other things contradictory to Obama's overall message of "change." When you've spent the better part of the last two years telling the American public the problems with "old Washington style" politics, and then pick one of the very people you've repeatedly lambasted as being representative of these politics something doesn't quite mesh. Why would Clinton be a superior selection to a Richardson or Kerry? Considering they supported Obama and each bring more foreign policy experience to the post than HRC, I really don't see any advantage of this decision. But, this is just my opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 11/26/2008

Because Kerrys been in Washington longer than dirt, and Richardson recieved five executive appointments from Bill Clinton... they are all from the old guard so what are you talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 11/26/2008

Exactly my point. If you are going to pick a "Washington Insider," why not pick THE MOST QUALIFIED insider? And it doesn't exactly hurt that these people actually supported him! "They are from the old guard..." And your argument is...Clint­on isn't? So what are YOU talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 11/26/2008
- hexham I'm a Fan of hexham 9 fans permalink

Y'all crack me up. Sure the headline is provocative, maybe untrue. But the way you rise to the bait is hilarious, excuse the pun.

If anyone thinks Obama is going to be outfoxed by Clinton, I would point to the result of the Primaries. Hillary will be a good SoS, because it is in her best interest to be so. She won't be too old to run in 2016, and this will build her credentials beyond measure - so long as she gets in exactly NO spats with her boss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 11/26/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 580 fans permalink
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Thank you! Obama knew what he was doing throughout every minute of his campaign, in both the primary and general, and we applauded his brilliance and his shrewd ability to outfox the foxes. But now, some of us want to believe that he's too stupid to see what we think we see, through the lens of our limited and occasional petty perspective. Obama is still a brilliant man, and the scope of his vision is far beyond what most of us can even conceive. He knows what he's doing! If he appoints Hillary, which is very likely, it will be because he believes that she is qualified for the position, and also perhaps because he understands that as SOS, she will be more beholden to him than any of his other appointees. She will be obligated to be HIS voice, to promote HIS agenda, and to create HIS vision for our relationship with our global neighbors. The very nature of the role of SOS is to be in allegiance with the President, and if she fails to do this, she will be judged harshly by the country, by her Party and base, and by the world. Hillary will never do this to herself, and Obama knows it. In essence, her future ambitions rely on her ability and willingness to do the President's bidding. She will be serving HIM at HIS pleasure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 11/26/2008

Look at the ties here:

Ari*yawn*a, her ties to Buffet who owns most of GE/NBC News. There stock is in the tank along with Birkshire. Obama's transition team begins leaking exclusively to CNN, shutting out NBC due to its precieved liberal slant. Suddenly, Andrea Mitchell breaks this bogus Drama Narrative citing sources in the Obama camp, then has to retract on Meet the Press. She now says it wasn't Obama sources but merely "prominent Democrats"­... sounds fishy to me...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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A lot of the pro Hillary comments seem a lot like the pro Palin comments: if you don't agree, you're a h ater. What happened to being able to criticize those we disagree with? Have we become that much of a bananna republic that we can't question those who lead us?

Say what you want about Hillary's ability to lead, that doesn't erase the unexusable, Rovian campaign she ran against Obama. A lot of John McCain's campaign came straight out of Hillary's playbook: the Palin pick (to lure women voters), exploiting Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, Tony Rezko, making allusions to Obama's race... and a lot of you are saying all is forgiven? Imagine if ir was Obama who ran the extremely divisive campaign, you'd say h ell no don't forgive him, but because it's Hillary all is forgiven!

Thanks but no thanks! I'll trust President Obama, but until Hillary proves me wrong, I will NOT trust or support her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 11/26/2008
- frenchie25 I'm a Fan of frenchie25 12 fans permalink

HRC did BO's campaign a HUGE favor by bringing those issues (Rev Wright, Ayers, etc) to the fore-front BEFORE the general election so as to educate and de-sensitize the general public from "Weapons of Mass Distractio­n."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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So she gets a free pass just because she aired the issues out?

and she also

said that she and John McCain passed the Commander in Chief test and were more qualified than Obama

- complained about FL and MI not counting only when she fell behind in delegates

- said that Obama isn't a M u slim "as far as I know"

- said Obama couldn't win over blue collar voters

- stayed in the primaries even after it was mathematically impossible for her to win

- made that h orrible R F K as s as sination remark

- complained about Zimbabwe and civil rights

- praised Fox News

If it was OK for Hillary to do all that, then I guess John McCain's campaign was fair game as well...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 11/26/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 580 fans permalink
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Sarcasm??? A joke??? You can't be serious!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 11/26/2008

Obama is just setting Hillary up to run for 2012. That's why he's picked many Clintonites for his cabinet & secretary positions. Michelle is smart and protective, she won't let her kids grow up in the White House for 8 yrs, family is important to her. Obama is just here for four years to put the country back on the right track, by then Hillary will have the global credentials to complete her resume and presidential standing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 11/26/2008
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WHAT Everrrrrrr­rrrrrrrr!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 11/26/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 357 fans permalink
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Hah! Thanks for the laugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 11/26/2008
- marthlois I'm a Fan of marthlois 27 fans permalink

You're just making me laugh hard like McCain did today:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 11/26/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 580 fans permalink
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From your lips ... to your ears! It's called talking to yourself, some may even go as far as to call it hallucinating!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 11/26/2008

LOL I love and support Senator Clinton but your theory is completely insane.

President-elect Obama will run for a second term (gods willing) and if he doesn't botch the first term (which he shows no sign of doing) he'll win again.

Senator Clinton will probably never have another chance to be President. In fact, we probably won't see a woman as President in our lifetimes (depending on your age - kids in their 20's probably will).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 11/26/2008
- Jezreel I'm a Fan of Jezreel 62 fans permalink
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I always suspected there was more to this story than meets the eye. I wondered initially why would HRC broadcast that she knew the SoS post was hers when she walked out the door if not to thwart the efforts of others, like Kerry and Richardson to win the PE's nomination the position? And why would she play hard to get and then say through her associates that the ball was in Obama's court if she wasn't trying to back him into a corner? This story may or may not be entirely accurate, but it rings true with me. If it is accurate then Obama is in for a rocky 4 years with HRC as his SoS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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I trust President Obama more than I trust Hillary because it's his policy she will be carrying out. Until Hillary proves me wrong, I will NOT support or trust her, because of her divisive Republican style campaign she ran against Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 11/26/2008

So the article is saying that Obama will offer Hillary the SOS position because basically she tricked him into it?

I don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 11/26/2008
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Oh, I think so. It was purposely leaked by her people so that there was no he could not offer it to her. It was crystal clear what she did. Obama's people don't leak things. Clinton's people leaked things the whole primary. The Clintopn's are messy people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 11/26/2008
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I'm not a fan of the Clinton's but I do think that most of the blabbermouths are friends of theirs (i.e. Lanny Davis, etc.) and not people who are AUTHORIZED to speak for the Clinton's.

So the Clintons get a bad rap for all those associated with them who think they're helping them...and all they're doing is contibuting to their "drama" (and blabbermouth) reputation. They need to tell all their friends and associates to SHUT UP already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 11/26/2008
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THAT we can agree on. ;*)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 11/26/2008
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I disagree. From everything she's done so far, it's clear that these vwere all controlled leaks calculated to pressure President Elect Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 11/26/2008

I think you got it pegged right there, its a bunch of donors who had a few dinners with Bill and Hill blabbing knowing nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 11/26/2008
- frenchie25 I'm a Fan of frenchie25 12 fans permalink

Every story about HRC on HuffPo gets more comments than any other story.

She is a rock star...and our next SOS.

Deal with it (and try to be a little more supportive of your President elect).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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I support the president elect, heck I voted for him!

But I never did support or vote for Hillary Clinton. One of the reasons I supported Barack Obama from day one was because I was TIRED of the Clintons, they had their time to shine! The Clintons ran a very Republican campaign this year, and they did very little in the way of campaign events for Obama until the very end when Obama was in the lead, and I doubt it had any impact on the election other than securing base voters. The Clintons are like Sarah Palin: either you like them or you h ate them. A lot of us will celebrate the day when we never have to hear from them, sort of like the day when we don't have to hear from Palin or Joe the Plubmer ever again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 11/26/2008

She is a rockstar. I say, HILL YES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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I say HE L L NO!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 11/26/2008
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There is NO support in this article to rationalize the headline. This is just more Clinton-hating from the Hu*fPo. Why should we expect more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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LOL Clinton h ating? So anything negative against the Clintons is h ate?

Wow the Hillbots never cease to amaze me, no wonder the Clintons can't be trusted! They have blind followers! And I thought we had enough of blind followers with Bush, it's time to wake up and smell the flowers, the Clintons CANNOT be trusted, they are about THEMSELVES first!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 11/26/2008
- admiralj I'm a Fan of admiralj 3 fans permalink

Have to agree, the Clinton's are like Jim Jones, and we all know what happened to the blind followers who drank that Kool-Aid.

Why can't the Clinton's and the Hillbots understand some of us just don't like them? Nothing mean, no, not being a hater. Sometimes you just have uneasy feeling about a person or their intentions. And why would you even want to be in the same room? That's the reason 51% choose....­.....NO HILLARY!! Remember, you can't be friends with all people. Some, Yes! Some, No!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 11/26/2008
- frenchie25 I'm a Fan of frenchie25 12 fans permalink

exactly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 11/26/2008

This report is just silly.....­.

President Elect Obama wants Hillary for SOC and that is who he is going to get....so get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 11/26/2008

Obama will outsmart Hillary. He is making her part of his National Security Team and will introduce her with the Secretary of Defense and 4 or five others. She'll be boxed in--as she should be. And at least he got her out of the Senate! She'll either have to support him totally or she'll soon have to resign because she'll make a mistake--the Clintons always do in the end. She knows nothing about foreign policy and less about diplomacy. But I'm not concerned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 11/26/2008
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Where did you get this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 11/26/2008
- klondiker I'm a Fan of klondiker 53 fans permalink

It doesn't speak very highly of Obama, if he's nominating her knowing that "she knows nothing about foreign policy and less about diplomacy"

You can't have it both ways. Either Obama genuinely respects her and wants her skills as SoS (in which case, what's your problem), or he doesn't think she's qualified, but is nominating her anyway as a political ploy (in which case, he's not the man you think he is).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 11/26/2008

Excellent point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 11/26/2008
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Those aren't the only two choices that Obama has to consider.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 11/26/2008
- DemNY I'm a Fan of DemNY 6 fans permalink

And what does president elect Obama know about foreign policy OR diplomacy.

Just delusional if you think HRC is going to be boxed in by anyone, let alone Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 11/29/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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This is why a lot of us who voted for Obama have a problem with Hillary, you just don't know what you are getting!

This is the same Hillary who:

- said that she and John McCain passed the Commander in Chief test and were more qualified than Obama

- complained about FL and MI not counting only when she fell behind in delegates

- said that Obama isn't a M u slim "as far as I know"

- said Obama couldn't win over blue collar voters

- stayed in the primaries even after it was mathematically impossible for her to win

- made that h orrible R F K as s as sination remark

- complained about Zimbabwe and civil rights

Imagine if it was Obama who did those things, he'd be FINISHED! But since it's Hillary Clinton, all is forgiven! I may trust PE Obama, but I don't trust her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 11/26/2008

All those things you mentioned is why I can't stand her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 11/26/2008

You apparently don't trust Obama to make a good decision as to who should be SoS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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Did you not see my sentence at the end that read " I may trust PE Obama, but I don't trust her"? That means I trust the President elect more than I do her, meaning I will criticize her until she proves me wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 11/26/2008
- standard I'm a Fan of standard 28 fans permalink

First off, trusting someone doesn't equate with believing that person is infallible. Even trustworthy people can be badly mistaken, from time to time.

Second, why assume that Obama picked Mrs. Clinton because he thinks she's even remotely qualified? Perhaps he "picked her" to get her the hell out of the Senate and to lure her into a position from which he can summarily fire her on a mere whim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 11/26/2008
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I am not sure I believe this. It wouldn't be the first time someone has written some nonsense in order to sell a book.

http://billmel8er.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 11/26/2008
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'Tis the subductions zone of a "Team of Rivals." A fair consequence for a brilliant presidency. Bridges are better than walls--period. As Gandhi stated--paraphrased here--sometimes you just have to pocket some insults for the sake of peace, comprimise, and the benefit of the greater good.

Hillary, please chill on the drama! Sec. of State should not be a Drama Queen!! Pleeeeeeeze--for the good of the country!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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And Hillary was quoted as "being disenchanted with the Senate..." so it was only enchanting for her when it was politically convienent? When will the US finally cease appeasing the Clintons? This isn't THEIR country only!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 11/26/2008

Omg no she wasn't that was just another unamed source for the love of god please state the facts!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 11/26/2008

Don't believe this bull

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 11/26/2008
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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Of course you wouldn't, being the blind Hillbot you are...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 11/26/2008
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I think we have a bit of history with Hillary. It is not like we just pulled this stuff out of our arse. The record shows her tendency for--shall we say--hyperbole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 11/26/2008
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