Deccan Mujahideen: Mumbai Attacks Info

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Deccan Mujahideen, a terrorist organization, has claimed responsibility for today's Mumbai shootings and hostages. Little is known about the organization, but early reports have been trickling in over the internet.

The term itself is not very specific, and according to CNN may just be a generic term for radicals in the region. "Deccan" is an area of India and "Mujahideen" is the plural form of a term referring to a Muslim participating in a jihad.

Deccan Mujahideen also claimed responsibility for a series of bombings across India in September that killed at least 130 people.

That email read:

"You should know that your acts are not at all left unnoticed; rather we are closely keeping an eye on you and just waiting for the right time to execute your bloodshed. We are aware of your recent raids at Ansarnagar, Mograpada in Andheri and the harassment and trouble you created there for the Muslims," the group said in the email they sent to various media houses on Saturday evening.

"You threatened to murder them and your mischief went to such an extent that you even dared to abuse and insult Maulana Mahmood-ul-Hasan Qasmi and even misbehaved with the Muslim women and children there," the email said.

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"If this is the degree your arrogance has reached, and if you think that by these stunts you can scare us, then let the Indian Mujahideen warn all the people of Mumbai that whatever deadly attacks Mumbaikars will face in future, their responsibility would lie with the Mumbai ATS and their guardians - Vilasrao Deshmukh and R R Patil," the email said. "You are already on our hit-list and this time very very seriously."

Deccan Mujahideen also claimed responsibility for bombings in Jaipur in May.

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"Deccan" is an area of India, while "Mujahideen" is the plural form of a Muslim participating in a jihad.

But terrorism experts say it is unlikely that an unknown terrorist group could carry out such a highly-organized and heavily-armed attack.

Rohan Gunaratna, an international terrorism expert, told CNN Wednesday that only the Indian Mujahideen, an Islamist terror group active in India, had the resources to carry out the plan.

The Indian Mujahideen, has claimed responsibility for a number of deadly attacks throughout 2008, and in a chilling email in September, said Mumbai was its next target.

The group accused Mumbai's police of harassing Muslims and also claimed responsibility for a number of 2008 bomb attacks throughout India, which killed at least 130 people.

Comments

[rf7777]

Islam better get these frickin' nuts under control. Even the progrssive people and countries of the world are running out of patience with these Islamic fundamentalists. They are hurting Islam, not helping it.

[marko77]

"How come HP isnt blaming George Bush for this?" by MaDmOnKy

Because George Bush has nothing to do with this, you stupid sh*t.

[chronic]

LOL!

[rovshan]

"But terrorism experts say it is unlikely that an unknown terrorist group could carry out such a highly-organized and heavily-armed attack."

why do they just assume that because they are "unknown" they're not capableof this sometimes this experts make way to many assumptions i know thats just their best guees to an uknown fact but a very bold one at that the fact they're unknown just might mean they're good enough to have kept everything under the radar and we're not as safe as we would like to think

[punk]

Also, the attack was not "highly-or­ganized." A few dozen guys got together, bought some guns and hand grenades, then killed people. It doesn't take much intelligence to pull it off.

[lizr]

they also took over a ship, killed the captain, floated over to Bombay and took rafts in to land.

more organized than you think, and low tech, harder to trace and detect.

[brooklyncitizen]

YEAH....th­e US did dismiss "Bin Ladden Determined To Attack US" and claims of who'd a thought that they'd use planes???? well just because we can't wrap our brains around the methods and motivation doesn't mean it isn't possible..­.that kind of denial is dangerous.

[outsidein]

save them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMf9oBpvI0o

[tbone99]

This is what happens when people are denied a voice at the table and instead of being able to participate in solutions must seek other avenues of being heard.

However this is not the way -

I think Obama's presidency is an example of a people long denied who were able to finally buy into the solution thrugh determination& persistence. And it is that more satisfying because the powers that be were beat at their own game.

[Tipotter]

You think Obama is not "the powers that be?" How so? Look at his donor list, his cabinet choices etc... Obama is a pragmatic politician with a good slogan.

Do you really believe troops will be out of Iraq within 4 years? Do you really believe that unions and corporations will be brought under control? Do you think healthcare will improve, become nationalized even? Do you really believe we are going to be any closer to renewable resources and or energy independence under Obama then we would any other random Dem or Repub? I doubt it.

I am baffled as to how the "left" believes this a revolution of some kind, like the people finally took power back or something. This is just not true. This is DC, you think he is going to run into town and change the institution that is DC?

"I think Obama's presidency is an example of a people long denied who were able to finally buy into the solution thrugh determination& persistenc­e."

Who are these long denied people??

You seem to assume that the United States is the sole denier of this "voice at the table." That if we just stopped meddling around, the world would be fine and peace would rain down?
It is tragic, no doubt, that our past actions have in a large part created the atmosphere for this violence, but I believe it is ignorant to assume we are the sole reason, even the major reason.

[Merckx]

Do you really believe troops will be out of Iraq within 4 years?
Yes.
Do you really believe that unions and corporations will be brought under control?
No. He is not promising to do that.
Do you think healthcare will improve, become nationalized even?
Yes. It will be a slow process.
Do you really believe we are going to be any closer to renewable resources and or energy independence under Obama then we would any other random Dem or Repub?
Yes.

Look, politicians lay out a plan. You vote for the politician who offers up a plan you most agree with. You hope he/she can at least head in that direction. If one doesn't start with that basic premise, you are so cynical that you should drop out of the process.

[willisbones]

I was taught that America was pretty much the "world leader" in just about any and everything.

It makes sense to look to the world leader for solutions to problems; but it also makes sense to look to the world leader as the cause of certain problems, especially if you don't live in America.

[Veeve]

That is ridiculous. India was partitioned 61 years ago. They are nowhere near perfect but India is trying to be a pluralistic society. Kashmir was not invaded and annexed and the country will never allow itself to be re-partitioned. Even more critically, those glaciers feed the rivers that make Indian land fertile. Fundamentalists deserve to have their voices ignored. If not for fundamentalists of every religion and nationality, the rest of us might be able to work out our differences.

[wagthedog1001]

This is the central truth within every single conflict and war we experience. It bears repeating.

"If not for fundamentalists of every religion and nationality, the rest of us might be able to work out our difference­s."

[lizr]

Fundamentalism is the disease, but the reality lies somewhere between the two.

Ignored groups WILL have their say and will continue to cause madness til we find a way to either meet their grievances or neutralize them.

Education and opportunity and spreading the pie around will go a long way.

Military solutions - dont seem to be working, most have noticed.

[PengieP]

No, it's NOT what happens when people are denied a voice. It's what murderous fanatic serial killers do using whatever excuse they dream up for their own self edification. These people think of themselves as special but are unable to do what they deem to be something significant within their twisted and cramped fanatic worldview. So they kill. This is in no way anyone's "fault" but that of the murderous bastards that did this. A previous example that is quite instructive on this matter is that the terrorists associated with the 9/11 attacks were middle class educated people who decided that they would act for their own misguided evil purposes, not poor, ignorant impoverished people. You can bet that the swine responsible for these actions in Mumbai will be found to be of similar backgrounds and not people denied any say.

You besmirch the struggles of people like Martin Luther King who was a Ghandi-like model of non-violent action when you write that those murderous pigs (and I'm insulting pigs by this comparison) massacred innocents in Mumbai "because they were denied a voice". King succeeded and will continue to succeed in uplifting people. These murderers only bring us all down.

[IUnkown]

The email issued from the islamic militant group Deccan Mujahideen claiming responsibility for November 25, 2008 attacks in Mumbai actually mentions the group 'Indian Mujahideen' (and not Deccan Mujahideen). Maybe they are the same or a splinter group. The contents of this email are mysteriously similar to an email threat issued by the Indian Mujahideen group against Mumbai back in September 14, 2008 and published in a reputable Indian news daily - India Today. The real question is how seriously were these threats taken by the Indian authorities.
Here are the links to both of these emails-
Deccan Mujahideen's claim:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24718115-5012747,00.html
Indian Mujahideen's threat:
http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&issueid=71&task=view&id=15328&sectionid=4&Itemid=1

[walk0nwalls]

Well there IS endemic corruption in India but still...

That's what the Pink Sari gang are for.

[triplbee]

This has nothing to do with religion. It's about power.

[Mildmannered]

I think you are correct

[Mildmannered]

the UN is not a very effective organization, is it

[triplbee]

What does the UN have to do with this?

[GZLives]

It has to do with religion AND power ... and you obviously don't understand Islamism since it is exactly that combination of faith and power that drives them to Jihad.
Why is it so difficult for the left to accept it is exactly what the perpetrators themselves tell you ?
It is JIHAD ...

[marko77]

"It has to do with religion AND power ... and you obviously don't understand Islamism since it is exactly that combination of faith and power that drives them to Jihad.
Why is it so difficult for the left to accept it is exactly what the perpetrators themselves tell you ?
It is JIHAD ..." by GZLives

Yes, you are correct. It is "Jihad" by crazed and stupid religious fundamentalists: mayhem and murder of unarmed people who are "humiliating Islam." - What a crock of sh*t.

[Nicolaus]

While this senseless violence, death and destruction will only serve the bigots who perpetrated vile acts against a minority community in India.

That they happened to be Muslims is not entirely relevant. They may derive from their beliefs ideological and historical strengths, but it would be no different from that of the Catholics in Northern Ireland!

[markusmarkus]

What would Mahatma Gandhi do? I know what he would say - "I object to violence because the good it seems to do is temporary, but the evil it does it permanent.­"

[themutts]

We of the left don't hate religion. We can't stand what it does to the ignorant who will following religion's teachings no matter how twisted they become.

What's with the freakish use of periods?

[nefertiti]

it has nothing to do with religion , it has to do with the occupation of Kashmir that lasted too long and the UN simply forgot them . I do not support terrorism and attacking civilians indiscriminately , however India should stop killing them , arresting them daily and destroying their homes . the UN should do something to stop the violence on both sides . the UN does nothing but blows hot air .

[rocko2466]

Kashmir has everything to do with religion.

You do realise what the difference between Pakistan and India has always been?

Religion.

In very simplified terms, India claimed Kashmir as territory because it was signed over to them by the regional prince in Partition. Pakistan claimed the territory regardless 'because most of the people in Kashmir are Muslim and Pakistan is the country made for Muslims'.

You can't think you can delete 'religion' from this disgusting mess just because it makes you uncomfortable.

[lizr]

the UN ordered plebiscite in Kashmir needs to happen, India needs to allow it, and also have its water access or whatever guaranteed­..

[rocko2466]

This is what happens when we are tolerant of those who can just believe something ridiculous without evidence.

If we cannot attack these unfounded beliefs, we cannot get at the very heart of terrorism. Terrorism is inspired by faith that the Koran is the textbook of the "one true God" and requires violent jihad (as opposed to the inner or 'greater' jihad argued by the more moderate Muslims).

Faith finds no basis in reason or logic and has people reading a book of centuries-old religious fiction and believing it, either literally or in metaphors. Once people believe something on faith - and faith alone - they are capable of believing (and doing) anything.

We, in the Western world, have been caught up in the attractive - but ultimately nonsensical - theories like 'relativism' and 'religious tolerance' and have hence been unable to truly attack the growing violence in the Muslim world.

Religion is exclusive and intolerant by its very nature. Judaism states the Jewish people are 'God's chosen people' by birth, Christianity is laden with hatred of the Jews and requires disgust toward those who come after and Islam requires conversion by force. It is only when we recognise these disturbing parts of our world's major religions that we can truly understand why terror exists.

And why we should not put with 'faith'.

[Mort]

"Religion is exclusive and intolerant by its very nature. "

"...This is the first and great commandment. And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

The basis of the gospel is love. The intolerance you speak of is human nature, not religion. and speaking of intoleranc­e.....

[Nicolaus]

While the conflict in India and between India and Pakistan is NOT religious, although it is clad in religious clothing - for our convenience, to suggest that the Gospel teaches 'love' misses out a big chunk of it - which neither advocates love, nor inculcates peace!

[Tipotter]

Mort, you are so right. Human nature corrupts religion, just as it corrupts everything. On the whole Religion is not exclusive and intolerant by its very nature, but the exact opposite.

Human nature is I would argue inherently corrupt, therefore in the end it will corrupt everything, money, politics, religion, whatever it may be.

But to assume that religion and violence are in this vacuum of sorts is absurd and totally unfounded. You fail to recognize Nationalism (WI/WWII), differing political philosophies (Cold War i.e Vietnam, Afghanistan for the Soviets and the whole host of 3rd world violence that was the Cold War) Ethnic violence. (Balkans, Africa etc..) this is just the 20th century, the bloodiest century in Human history I'll remind you. Remember two nuclear bombs were dropped, not for the Christian world, but for America and Capitalism.
Human nature will corrupt any means of control, political, economic, social/religious. On the whole, compared to the other modes of control, I would say religion sounds a little friendlier. And I am not downplaying the role religion has had in violence, it is large, there is no doubt. And I am not religious if that matters to you at all.

[janmarbol]

the dates of attacks are predetermined: attacks in order: 5/13; 7/26; 9/13; 11/26 (and there was one the day before 7/26) What do these numbers mean and is 1/13 the next target??? Look at the time line CNN has published.

Furthermore, India TImes reported US intelligence dead (although this was said some time ago and now I can't find it anymore) Did they know to expect the attack and were monitoring the area?

Another thing, the email sent was apparently traced to Russia. Is it really Russia or did a high tech Indian or Pakistani deviate it to make it look like it came from Russia?

[janmarbol]

update to my own comment- apparently CNN only published certain dates - why the bleep did they do that now?

[Snoman]

"The group accused Mumbai's police of harassing Muslims...­"

Yeah, I'm sure Mumbai's resident Muslims won't have to worry about police harassment anymore. Dumbasses.

[thegirlnextdoor]

This does not make any sense, Pakistan separated from India over 50 years ago so the Muslims and the Hindu's don't have to be any where near each other.
Oh, wait, terrorism and sense - mutually exclusive ideas. Sorry.

[Foreground]

There's still the disputed Kashmir region, and Pakistan or not, some people don't want to leave the land they and/or their forefathers grew up on.

Though I myself am a Hindu of Indian descent, I doubt that I'm alone in stating that the abuse of Muslims in India or anywhere else is a horrible tragedy. Still, this is nowhere near an appropriate response to it, and will only exacerbate the conditions of Muslims in India and many other places in the world.

[nefertiti]

girl nextdoor it seems you have not heard of Kashmir still under Indians occupation . still im against terrorism .

[lizr]

Plenty of Muslims in India, please read more.

[PengieP]

If I recall correctly, more Moslems live in India than in Pakistan.

[CeeCee]

Imagine.
Murdering innocent people at random.
This is jihad??
This is terrorism for the sake of terror.

[Nicolaus]

'Terrorism for the sake of terror' or may be because they hate 'our freedom.' But never because they were driven through desperateness to commit the same violent and murderous acts manner as their oppressors and tormentors - whether in the Middle East or in the Indian sub-continent!

Unless of course we ARE the 'chosen people' and we ARE better than anyone else, although, neither our history of conquests nor our present crime rates measured as in murders, or unmeasured as in what goes on in Wall Street.

[marko77]

"Imagine.
Murdering innocent people at random.
This is jihad??
This is terrorism for the sake of terror." by CeeCee

No, this IS Jihad for asswipes like Al Queda other extreme Islamic groups.