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RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM | November 27, 2008 11:38 PM EST | AP

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Sharda Janardhan Chitikar, left, is consoled by a relative as she grieves the death of her two children in a terrorist attack as she waits for their bodies outside St. Georges Hospital in Mumbai, India, Thursday, Nov. 27, 2008. Teams of gunmen stormed luxury hotels, a popular restaurant, a crowded train station and a Jewish group's headquarters, killing people, and holding Westerners hostage in coordinated attacks on the nation's commercial center that were blamed on Muslim militants. (AP Photo/Gurinder Osan)

MUMBAI, India — Masked Indian commandos dropped from helicopters Friday onto the roof of a Jewish center in Mumbai where Muslim militants were holed up, possibly with hostages, as sharpshooters kept up a steady stream of fire at the five-story building.

The assault was punctuated by gunshots and explosions from within the building as the forces cleared the building floor-by floor. Elsewhere in the city, commandos scoured two luxury hotels for suspected Muslim attackers still holed up more than a day after a chain of attacks across India's financial center by the militants left at least 119 people dead.

Hundreds of people had been captive in the two hotels, many locking themselves in their rooms or trying to hide as the gunmen roamed the buildings.

One victim was British-Cypriot Andreas Dionysiou Liveras, 73, the owner of a luxury yacht business,

said the Cypriot foreign ministry and his brother, Theophanis Liveras.

Andreas Dionysiou Liveras, who was attending a conference, had spoken to the British Broadcasting Corp. from a locked room inside the Taj Hotel before he was killed.

"As we sat at the table we heard the machine gun fire outside in the corridor. We hid under the table and then they switched all the lights off. ... All we know is the bombs are next door and the hotel is shaking every time a bomb goes off," he said.

At the headquarters of the ultra-orthodox Jewish outreach group Chabad Lubavitch, a commando assault began shortly after dawn following a tense night in which six trucks of soldiers had been brought in to surround the building.

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Snipers stationed in buildings opposite the center began the attack, with sustained fire on the building as at least nine commandos lowered themselves by rope onto the roof from a circling Indian air force helicopter.

Hundreds of onlookers, many with binoculars, crowded onto the roofs and in narrow alleys of southern Mumbai, trying to catch a glimpse of the dramatic commando assault.

It was not immediately clear if there were hostages in the building or their fate.

On Thursday morning, two workers and a child escaped from the building, the only people to emerge so far. The child was identified as Moshe Holtzberg, 2, the son of Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg, the main representative at Chabad house. The child was unharmed, but his clothes were soaked in blood.

The well-coordinated strikes by small bands of gunmen starting Wednesday night left the city shell-shocked, but the sporadic gunfire and explosions at the Taj Mahal and Oberoi hotels dwindled overnight, indicating the sieges there might be winding down.

Security forces searched room by room at the hotels _ two of the top gathering spots for the Mumbai elite _ but there were no gunbattles or blasts. Commandos had spent much of Thursday bringing out hostages, trapped guests and corpses from the hotels in small groups while firefighters battled flames that erupted. The fires were out by Friday.

The Maharashtra state home ministry said dozens of hostages had been freed from the Oberoi and dozens more were still trapped inside. More than 400 people were brought out of the Taj Mahal on Thursday.

Authorities said they had killed three gunmen at the Taj. However, army commanders said they believed there were still two or three more militants in the Taj and about 15 civilians. "We need to get them out of the rooms they have locked themselves into," said Brig. Bobby Mathews.

State officials said 119 people had died and 288 were injured in the attacks.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh blamed "external forces" for the violence _ a phrase sometimes used to refer to Pakistani militants, whom Indian authorities often blame attacks on.

The gunmen were well-prepared, even carrying large bags of almonds to keep up their energy during the fight. Their main targets appeared to be Americans, Britons and Jews, though most of the dead seemed to be Indians and foreign tourists caught in the random gunfire.

The gunmen _ some of whom strode casually through their targets in khakis and T-shirts _ clearly came ready for a siege.

"They have AK-47s and grenades. They have bags full of grenades and have come fully prepared," said Maj. Gen. R.K. Hooda.

Ratan Tata, who runs the company that owns the elegant Taj Mahal, said they had detailed knowledge of the layout of the hotels.

A U.S. investigative team was heading to Mumbai, a State Department official said Thursday evening, speaking on condition of anonymity because the U.S. and Indian governments were still working out final details. The official declined to identify which agency or agencies the team members came from.

India has been shaken repeatedly by terror attacks blamed on Muslim militants in recent years, but most of them were coordinated bombings striking random crowded places: markets, street corners, parks.

These attacks were more sophisticated _ and more brazen.

They began at about 9:20 p.m. with the shooters spraying gunfire across the Chhatrapati Shivaji railroad station, one of the world's busiest terminals. For the next two hours, there was an attack roughly every 15 minutes _ the Jewish center, a tourist restaurant, one hotel, then another, and two attacks on hospitals. There were 10 targets in all.

Indian media showed pictures of rubber dinghies found by the city's shoreline, apparently used by the gunmen to reach the area. Both of the luxury hotels targeted overlook the Arabian Sea, which surrounds the peninsula of Mumbai.

Analysts around the world were debating whether the gunmen could have been tied to _ or inspired by _ al-Qaida.

"It's clear that it is al-Qaida style," but probably not carried out by the group's militants, said Rohan Gunaratna, of the International Center for Political Violence and Terrorism Research in Singapore and author of "Inside Al-Qaida."

Indian media reports said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility in e-mails to several media outlets. The Deccan is a region in southern India that was traditionally ruled by Muslim kings.

Survivors of the hotel attacks said the gunmen had specifically targeted Britons and Americans.

One of the gunmen "stopped once and asked, 'Where are you from? Any British or American? Show your ID," Alex Chamberlain, a British citizen dining at the Oberoi, told reporters.

Among the dead were Australians and a Japanese, said the state home ministry. An Italian, a Briton and a German were also killed, according to their foreign ministries.

At least three top Indian police officers _ including the chief of the anti-terror squad _ were among those killed.

The United States, Pakistan and other countries condemned the attacks.

The motive for the onslaught was not immediately clear, but Mumbai has frequently been targeted in terrorist attacks blamed on Islamic extremists, including a series of bombings in July 2006 that killed 187 people.

Mumbai is one of the most populated cities in the world with some 18 million crammed into shantytowns, high rises and crumbling mansions.

Relations between Hindus, who make up more than 80 percent of India's 1 billion population, and Muslims, who make up about 14 percent, have sporadically erupted into bouts of sectarian violence since British-ruled India was split into independent India and Pakistan in 1947.

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Associated Press writers Anita Chang, Erika Kinetz and Jenny Barchfield contributed to this report.

MUMBAI, India — Masked Indian commandos dropped from helicopters Friday onto the roof of a Jewish center in Mumbai where Muslim militants were holed up, possibly with hostages, as sharpshooters ...
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- riafern I'm a Fan of riafern 3 fans permalink

India is poised to join the ranks of otaher developing nations that aligned with the west ...this is a tactic to scare people away ....Look at the difference 10 yrs of opening up Indian markets has done to trade & relations with the west ...also the economy has shot up ...where does that leave the Islamic terrorist who ride donkeys & live in caves ....far far behind ...note I did not link it to all Indian Muslims ,who are generally working class people ....this is also an attempt to drive a wedge between the minority(muslims ) & majority (hindus ) in India .so far most Indians do not take out their frustrations on their Muslim citizens ...generally ....so imagine what a large grp of muslims recruits would mean to Terrorist orgs ...esp from a country with close ties to US ,UK etc ...remember the 3 countries have joint anti terrorist camps in India for training ...that is how close they really are.India is the new Israel to US .....they are paying a price for that ...I lived in mumbai all my life ,till I moved here 6 months before 9/11 ...I feel strongly for both attacks ....pls pray for the people in Mumbai ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

Thank you....your point is spot-on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 11/28/2008
- Vixter I'm a Fan of Vixter 11 fans permalink

I am so sorry for all of the people of Mumbai - and hope that your family, friends, neighbors. & loved ones are safe. My prayers to all of India during this time of tragedy, as I am sure this has shocked the peaceful citizens in that country. One does not have to be from India to despise the senseless murders carried out by terrorist - just as one did not have to live in N.Y. to feel the pain of 9/11.

Peace & love to all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 11/29/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

After pointing out sucessfully that the MAJORITY (I's say aboout 99.9%) of the terrorism in the world is carried out by I s l a m i c E x t r e m i s t s, I would like to make one other comment on this. I am not saying that all M u s l im s are I s l a m i c E x t r e m i s t s, I would , however, like to see more people of the M u s l i m faith, in the US and around the world, condemn these a t o ci ties.....do not come back and say, "some do"...I am aware of this, I am just saying, if this were my faith, I would be the one screaming the LOUDEST and most often , condeming everything that has gone on.


Just an observation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 11/28/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 71 fans permalink

I do hope that you are doing your part to ensure that moderation exists in your chosen groups. Many of them need it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 11/30/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 182 fans permalink

I wrote a pretty vi.ci.ous satire here yesterday that got (probably deservedly so) scru.bbed after about an hour.

it was fueled by conte.mpt and ang.er at people (it seems to be mostly of the conse.rvative or political right-wing var.iety) who simply lack the intellectual capacity to form.ulate a coherent argument, or understand cul.tural, religi.ous, polit.ical and historical context when a tra.gedy like this occurs.

So often we try to cram things into simply defined boxes, like "isla m i c ex tr e mist" or "t e r r or ist" without bothering to do even a modicum of research in an attempt to understand what's going on.

And the point of this rant is exhibit A. I present to you, fellow bloggers, adamant, a truly intellectually incurious h8monger of the most v.ile sort, who when confronted repeatedly with historically accurate repudiations of his claims, simply ignores them or changes his argument.

It's infuriating, and insulting not only to those of us who choose to use our brains, but it also cheapens the tra.ge.dy and insults families half a world away trying to cope with sud.den and terr.ible loss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

And I present to you, fellow bloggers, a person who posts comments and does his best to spin facts.....this is exactly what the Mighty T has been doing.

Chechen Rebels do not go all over the world creating t e r r o r in countries they are not from...they stay in their owen country. This is a very small group of t e r r o r i s t s that has an inborn h a t r e d towards it's own grovernment and segmen of it's won country's citizens.

All of the other groups you listed are all small groups that do not go out and m u r d e r innocent people just for the heck of it.

The real problem that the Us and the Western world has is the I s l a m i c E x t r e m i s t s........sorry if this is not politically correct, but it is a fact. And I stand by this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 11/28/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 182 fans permalink

once again... a conservofascist calls facts "liberal spin"...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

Go ahead, keep your liberal rant going.....I do not care. You show either how naive or how uninformed you are by bashing conservatives at this point....the liberal spin continues to baffle me...why is it sor hard to admit that these people H A T E the US and all of our allies? Why is this so hard? And why is it so hard for liberals to admit that these are I s l a m i c E x t r e m i s t s committing these a t r o c i t i e s?

Please explain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 11/28/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 182 fans permalink

Oh it's not hard at all. I'm very sure that a lot of Isl am ic extremi sts h a t e america and commit atro c i ties.

What you don't seem to understand is that relig.ious, histo.rical etc context (see my post above) matters, and that ignoring it is dangerously fo.olish.

All of your continued effort to claim a victory of some sort in our ongoing debate simply reinforces my original argument.

You've got all the answers, even before the event has finished. You posted earlier that you already knew who had done this and why, and didn't need to read any articles. You make ridiculously stu.pid claims about ter ror ists (and ter ror ism) and revise your claims until you can say that you're right.

Fo.olish arr.oga.nce that again makes my point for me.

And don't misunderstand, i'm not ba.shing all conservatives. Just your type.

The intellectually incurious, Giuliani-style know-nothings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 11/28/2008
- postman606 I'm a Fan of postman606 67 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 11/29/2008
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appropriate for this day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVQKiqCZ9No

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 11/28/2008
- Lion24 I'm a Fan of Lion24 184 fans permalink
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CNN anchor Tony Harris: what a bag of wind.

MSNBC anchor Contessa Brewer: um... er .... duh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 11/28/2008

The UN Security Council on 20 January 1948 passed Resolution 39, establishing a special commission to investigate the conflict. Subsequent to the commission's recommendation, the Security Council ordered in its Resolution 47, passed on 21 April 1948, that the invading Pakistani army retreat from Jammu & Kashmir and that the accession of Kashmir to either India or Pakistan be determined in accordance with a plebiscite to be supervised by the UN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 11/28/2008

.. and the same UN resolution says that the plebiscite can be conducted only if pakistan-ruled and india-ruled territories come together and hold the referendum... so, my offer: let pakistan hold a referendum first in PoK, and then ask India to do the same -- my opinion, never gonna happen...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 11/29/2008

According to Encyclopaedia Britannica, "Although there was a clear Muslim majority in Kashmir before the 1947 partition and its economic, cultural, and geographic contiguity with the Muslim-majority area of the Punjab (in Pakistan) could be convincingly demonstrated, the political developments during and after the partition resulted in a division of the region. Pakistan was left with territory that, although basically Muslim in character, was thinly populated, relatively inaccessible, and economically underdeveloped. The largest Muslim group, situated in the Vale of Kashmir and estimated to number more than half the population of the entire region, lay in Indian-administered territory, with its former outlets via the Jhelum valley route blocked."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 11/28/2008
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Sounds like a culture w@r.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 11/28/2008

Kashmir was a kingdom. Hence it has a right to choose its own status through a democratic referendum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 11/28/2008

Oh, I'm sure we can count on it that Ms.Powers is already planning exactly how many of our troops should be sent in to control the violent Indian aggression and adding it to the numbers that will have to control the aggression of those violent terrorist Jews. Meditating in India one day and drinking Palestinian childrens blood the next day. Goodness gracious ! The idea of war or appeasement is so intellectually limiting and it is crucial that we enhance our skills in talking to evil. Or are we the evil ? I sometimes get confused. It will be fascinating to watch, although I dread where it will lead, but then Obama is gonna save us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 11/29/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 11/28/2008

what
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 11/28/2008
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And you never will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 11/28/2008

Is this some kind of auction?

Innocent people are dying out there and instead of "condolences" all he offers is a fan appeal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 11/28/2008

wow newman you made 20 000 comments?? your awesome dude

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 11/28/2008

Makes you think of his non existent social life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 11/28/2008

abby4ever See Profile I'm a Fan of abby4ever permalink
Not every ter.rorist is a mus'lim.
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NOT ALL mus.lims are terr orrists! Marked as fave!

Among the rare occasions, i actually agree with you! :))

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 11/28/2008

phew

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 11/28/2008

Majority of M.uslims are peaceful...since Isl@m promotes peace!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 11/28/2008
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Is your skin erupting with puss-filled carbuncles?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 11/28/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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Good grief!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 11/28/2008
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Hey, if the mainstream media can shuffle, without impunity, between shopping and Mumbai, I think I can too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 11/28/2008
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I think it's necessary to show the contrast and similarities of events. There is so much violent energy in the universe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 11/28/2008
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Yes, and everything is interrelated. If America wasn't so consumer driven, maybe they could get to the root cause as to why events like Mumbai happen.

The consumerism in America is symptomatic of a serious illness that Americans suffer from and that same illness can be extended to the need for the terrorist in Mumbai to specifically look for American citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 11/28/2008
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Yet they don't seem to be creating a moral equivalence as you seem to be, yes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 11/28/2008
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You are making a huge leap if you think I'm making a moral equivalence. Nonetheless, everything is interrelated.

Our obsession with consumerism, isn't lost on me. The irony and symbolism, may escape you, however, not me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 11/28/2008

Yes they hate us for our freedoms???

lets see......warrantless wiretapping
unable to protest
massive tax bills which you are threa tened to pay
warr antless searches
no habeas corpus
being almost strip searched at the airport
sky rocketing gas prices whenever they need cash
lied to about w ar lied to about our money ......

being rob bed as we speak.......

what else are we free to do....that they hate us for???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

Sorry you have such a big chip on your shoulder, satoro. I really love the way you spin all of your points to make it look like YOU have been denied even ONE of your civil liberties. You are pretty over-the-top in your complete anger and h a t r e d for the current administration. Hopefully, you will give O a chance before you start your left-wing p r o p a g a n d a against him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 11/28/2008
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I don't get the sense he's got a chip on his shoulder. I get the sense he's giving his counter explanation to the PR hype we're constantly fed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 11/28/2008

what did i make a mistake on??

and i dont care for obama because if you look at what kind of team hes putting together or the fact that he voted to take away all of those little things i pointed out .....
its plain to see what he will do.........im not guessing ....hes doing it....

hes done it

he voted for the pat riot act2
to fund the w ar
for fisa
took 150 million from goldmansachs
voted for the bailout
hired 35 out of 41 of the clinton admin.....???

what more do you want to see?????/ seriously im not being sarc astic tell me.....how can you spin all that??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

These I s l a m i c T e r r o r i s t s DO NOT need a reason to create havoc. This is their one and only job on this earth. To h a t e and k i l l. It doesn't matter to them who they are hurting, as long as they are k i l l i n g innocent people, they are doing their job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 11/28/2008

and how do you know this??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 11/28/2008
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It seems to me that ANY t.e.r.r.o.r.i.st is out to do that, Islamic or otherwise, isn't that so?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

Definitley. But let's stay real here. There is Only ONE group of r e l i g i o u s z e a l o t s out there does things like this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 11/28/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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Not every ter.rorist is a mus'lim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 11/28/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 451 fans permalink
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True, over in Iraq, I'm quite sure WE have been seen as the ter.rorists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

Name ONE t e r r o r i s t that isn't. I don't mean mass m u r d e r e rs,, I mean t e r r o r i s t s. Besides Timothy M c Vey.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 11/28/2008

Among the rare occasions, i actually agree with you! :))

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 11/28/2008
- ema I'm a Fan of ema 23 fans permalink
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Yes and many terrorists actually DO have legitimate political complaints, although I believe their means de-legitimatize their ends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

Besides mass m u r d e r e r s, and T im othy McVey, they are all M u slim Ex tre melists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 11/28/2008
- andvoodoo2 I'm a Fan of andvoodoo2 123 fans permalink
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Regarding Blackwater:

I live in NOLA. After the levees failed, Bush sent Blackwater to NO, presumably since all of our Natl. Guard was in Iraq and, of course, to throw some money toward his neo-con buddy, Erik Prince. The "pretend soldiers" of Blackwater carried automatic weapons and were tricked out like ultra-high tech weekend warrior nut.jobs. They would go into bars in the Quarter (nothing closes our bars) and stand there looking menacing. I know people who tried to strike up conversations and who found themselves staring down a machine gun! They gave the impression they were dy.ing to ki.ll somebody.

Blackwater STOLE 2 fighter jets from the Iraqi Army. The Iraqis demanded them back, but they were ignored. Blackwater owns tanks, rocket launchers and who knows what else.
Blackwater personnel are paid several times more than U.S. soldiers are by the U.S. government. This is ridiculous. The U.S. has a privately owned, well-equipped militia that is controlled by a religious right-leaning neo-con. Read all about it. The book is "Blackwater".

Now, I have to get on the road to go back to the big city. I'll get any replies in about 6 hours. Hopefully, my friends here have my back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 11/28/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 451 fans permalink
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Yes, all true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 11/28/2008

all true.........and pretty f in sary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 11/28/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 451 fans permalink
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And guess where else they were? At the RNC Convention right here in St. Paul!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 11/28/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

I too, was in NOLA after Katrina, and I experienced NONE of this. Blackwater was sent in to help. But on a very small scale. They were needed to keep people from l oo ting and stealing other people's property. Blackwater being in MY neighborhood kept us safe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 11/28/2008
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