Franken Eyes Legal Options After Absentee Battle Loss

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BRIAN BAKST | November 27, 2008 07:16 AM EST | AP

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ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota's U.S. Senate showdown is veering down a path toward the courts and possibly the Senate itself after a panel's ruling on rejected absentee ballots dealt a blow to Democrat Al Franken's chances.

For the first time, his campaign on Wednesday openly discussed mounting challenges after the hand recount involving Franken and Republican Sen. Norm Coleman concludes. That includes the possibility of drawing the Senate into the fracas.

The state Canvassing Board denied Franken's request to factor absentee ballots rejected by poll workers into the recount. He sought to overturn the exclusions in cases where ballots were invalidated over signature problems or other voter errors. Coleman's campaign maintained the board lacked power to revisit those ballots.

Franken entered the recount trailing Coleman by 215 votes out of 2.9 million ballots. As of Wednesday night, Coleman was up 292 votes, including results from Nov. 4 and recounted ones.

All told, 86 percent of the ballots have been recounted. However, about 4,740 ballots have been challenged by the two campaigns that could fall to the canvassing board to rule on.

The ruling wasn't a complete victory for Coleman. The board left open the possibility of examining ballots that were set aside for errors outside of the voter's control.

Secretary of State Mark Ritchie estimated that 12,000 absentee ballots were rejected for various reasons _ some legitimate, some not. That represents between 4 percent and 5 percent of all the absentee ballots cast.

Franken's campaign had made the push to factor in rejected absentee ballots key to its recount strategy, even going to court to force county officials to turn over data on voters whose ballots didn't count.

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Marc Elias, the legal chief for Franken, said the campaign won't appeal the board's ruling but it could seek intervention of another kind once the recount wraps up.

"Whether it is at the county level, before the Canvassing Board, before the courts or before the United States Senate, we don't know yet. But we remain confident these votes will be counted," Elias said.

The board's decision drew a response from the Senate's top Democrat, Majority Leader Harry Reid, who called it a "cause for great concern."

"As the process moves forward, Minnesota authorities must ensure that no voter is disenfranchised," Reid said in a statement. "A citizen's right to have his or her vote counted is fundamental in our democracy."

The Senate has in rare cases inserted itself into elections, including a 1996 Louisiana race and a 1974 New Hampshire contest. The body has the power to determine its members' qualifications.

Along with the Dec. 2 runoff in Georgia, the Minnesota race is one of two unresolved contests and could determine if Democrats build a majority large enough to fend off GOP filibusters.

Coleman campaign manager Cullen Sheehan objected to the notion of Senate involvement. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell joined in the criticism.

"The recount process in Minnesota is being handled by Minnesotans, not D.C. politicians," McConnell said. "And while neither side will agree with every twist and turn or every decision, I would hope that Washington partisans would refrain from injecting themselves into what is, by design, a non-partisan process."

The board's vote followed a discussion where some members expressed frustration over the possibility that some ballots were disqualified improperly. But even they acknowledged the matter fell outside the board's duties. Two Supreme Court justices, two district judges and the secretary of state make up the board.

Supreme Court Justice G. Barry Anderson said Franken's request for an absentee ballot review would have to wait for a court challenge that is likely to follow the recount. The loser can file what is known as an election contest.

Board members agreed to seek legal advice and meet again soon to decide whether local election officials should sort through the rejected ballots. That would help determine whether any that were actually accepted didn't get counted and whether any rejections fell outside the rules for disqualification. But the board didn't address what would happen with those ballots.

Coleman attorney Fritz Knaak said the campaign would not take issue with the counting of absentee ballots that were wrongly disqualified or overlooked, but he said he thought that such ballots comprised "an extraordinarily small number."

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota's U.S. Senate showdown is veering down a path toward the courts and possibly the Senate itself after a panel's ruling on rejected absentee ballots dealt a blow to Dem...
ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota's U.S. Senate showdown is veering down a path toward the courts and possibly the Senate itself after a panel's ruling on rejected absentee ballots dealt a blow to Dem...
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- DinkSinger I'm a Fan of DinkSinger 10 fans permalink

Mr Bakst writes "The body has the power to determine its members' qualifications." I doubt qualifications are at issue. Each candidate in 30 years old, has been a citizen of the United States for nine years and resides in Minnesota. It is settled law that these are the only qualifications for a Senator.

What he meant to say was the constitution makes each house of congress "the judge of the elections [and] returns ... of its own members". It is not just a power, it is a duty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 11/29/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 135 fans permalink

It's not over yet Al. Insist on having all ballots counted, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 11/29/2008
- DeniseD I'm a Fan of DeniseD 21 fans permalink

I think Al's going to lose. Too bad. We could have used that seat in the senate.

Being a native Californian, I know I would never vote for a celebrity unless he had the proper qualifications (law school, etc.). MN has already been burned once with Jesse Ventura, they probably don't want to be burned again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 11/28/2008
- Boadicea I'm a Fan of Boadicea 64 fans permalink

Only lawyers are qualified to be in government? And if not, why must celebs be lawyers to serve?

I might agree with you, just asking for clarification.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 11/28/2008
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 67 fans permalink

I remember watching George Galloway rake Coleman over the coals when Coleman was lying.

Integrity is number one in my book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 11/28/2008

I fail to see how they were "burned" by Ventura. Jesse actually did a pretty good job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 11/29/2008
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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When we elected Jesse, we were more than ready for CHANGE! Any one was better than the status quo. We werent burned, its was just unfortunate Jesse turned stupid. We the people of MN. did atleast send a message loud and clear, no more of the same! Coleman looks to be winning and its very unfortunate how the people forget so quickly of the corruption and self serving leadership we elect. Labor needs Frankin to win as Coleman will continue to push for the right to work laws and does nothing for the working people. He is too corrupt and self serving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 11/29/2008
- bascombe I'm a Fan of bascombe 29 fans permalink
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minnesote has as corrupt a voting process as any state. THAT is the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 11/29/2008
- dphilip I'm a Fan of dphilip 41 fans permalink

I am glad to see Franken using the same tactics that Al Gore created in 2000. Very smart. This country needs democratic leadership right now so we need to have as many of them in office as possible. The ends justify the means so do "whatever" it takes Al. Even if what he does is against election law it is what's best for the country right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 11/28/2008
- 11907281 I'm a Fan of 11907281 14 fans permalink
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T-roll away, your groups power and influence is diminishing by the day, please pick mooseburger in 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 11/28/2008
- NewRiver I'm a Fan of NewRiver 21 fans permalink
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Yea, advocating breaking election law. Clever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 11/29/2008
- DinkSinger I'm a Fan of DinkSinger 10 fans permalink

Actually in Florida in 2000 it was the "what-ever­-it-takes" Bush folks that successfully argued that election laws shouldn't count when absentee ballots are counted. It cost Gore the election. Here's what the New York Times concluded in July 2001:

"With the presidency hanging on the outcome in Florida, the Bush team quickly grasped that the best hope of ensuring victory was the trove of ballots still arriving in the mail from Florida residents living abroad. Over the next 18 days, the Republicans mounted a legal and public relations campaign to persuade canvassing boards in Bush strongholds to waive the state's election laws when counting overseas absentee ballots.

Their goal was simple: to count the maximum number of overseas ballots in counties won by Mr. Bush, particularly those with a high concentration of military voters, while seeking to disqualify overseas ballots in counties won by Vice President Al Gore. "

The full investigative report is here http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9507e0d8133bf936a25754c0a9679c8b63

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 11/29/2008

OFF TOPIC-----­----------­-REMINDER TO ALL VOTERS IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA---­----------­-----

Please!!!!!!! Remember to vote on Tuesday 12/02/08. for Jim Martin (D) for Senator against Saxby Chambliss. This is a runoff election we cannot afford to lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 11/28/2008
- UtahLady I'm a Fan of UtahLady 6 fans permalink
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If Coleman prevails, it's time for the Senate to start an ethics investigation concerning him (there are certinly good grounds for an investigation). I can't help but think that he would be better off if he doesn't prevail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 11/28/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 136 fans permalink

Or the FBI needs to investigate.

Isn't Coleman accused of exactly the same ethics violations as Stevens?

Failing to register gifts?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 11/28/2008
- UtahLady I'm a Fan of UtahLady 6 fans permalink
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Exactly the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 11/28/2008

He would be better off in stripes, or an orange jumpsuit, and sent to our Country Club in Guantanamo Bay for a little rest and relaxation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 11/28/2008
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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Hopefully they will also investigte the TWIT Bahmann while their at it! Shes a true fruit cake!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 11/29/2008

He hadn't lived here since before college, that would be 30 plus years ago. He only moved back so he could run for senate.Alot of people didn't vote for him because of his temper and his foul mouth. With Coleman at least you know what you have..Franken is another story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 11/28/2008
- wolfgangmo I'm a Fan of wolfgangmo 21 fans permalink
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So if I am following your [euphemistic term alert] 'logic' then you would rather vote of a known corrupt politician and new york carpet bagger from out of state than a home grown boy with good policies and a clean record because he has a "foul mouth."

You are one twisted dude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 11/28/2008
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Wrong, Brock. Franken had moved back years before. He would broadcast his radio show from Minnesota. In fact, he lost his co-host because she didn't want to move up there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 11/28/2008

He moved here a couple of years ago with the intent to run for senate. He did move his radio show here. His whole intent was to run for senate in Minnesota because the New York's senate seats were pretty untouchable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 11/29/2008
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 77 fans permalink

Republicans are the party of the untrustworthy on virtually every level. Though there are a few Dems who are also crooked, the ratio swings dominantly to the right for the criminal mindset they possess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 11/28/2008


Fight it to the end Al.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 11/28/2008
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 228 fans permalink
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I'm glad the Democratic candidate is not going quietly into the night. It's about time we fight it out until the end. I wish Kerry had had more of Franken's spirit in '04. Having said that it doesn't look good for Franken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 11/28/2008

I'm not sure how much good it really does to fight to the end. It is like a chess game with a grandmaster up by a pawn. The eventual loser can delay the loss but in the end it will still be a loss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 11/28/2008

The Coleman attorney quoted here thinks that the absentee ballots "wrongly disqualified or overlooked" comprised an extraordinarily small number?" Hmm. I wonder if those voters feel that they are extraordinarily small Americans?
Coleman is only winning by an extraordinarily small number of 200. But in that case it's fine, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 11/28/2008
- nick53 I'm a Fan of nick53 2 fans permalink

give it a break franken..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 AM on 11/28/2008
- allwrite I'm a Fan of allwrite 14 fans permalink

Take it to the courts, Al. Do what Coleman would do in your shoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 11/28/2008

I think Al should pursue this. There should be at least one full investigation of all votes cast in a state this election. The Repub plans to steal votes mostly were made moot by victory margins, but I'm sure they did get away with suppressing votes in several states.

There has to be a complete reform of voting in this country. National elections especially, should not be handled by state boards that are political appointees. We are lucky that the "big plan" to steal the election of the Rovians didn't work, mostly because of the Obama team efforts and a few patriotic people in individual states who took lawsuits to the supreme court.

There should be NO doubt of the efficacy of our elections. Right now, that cannot be said. There are few crimes more heinous than vote suppression or theft.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 11/28/2008
- emstrem I'm a Fan of emstrem 8 fans permalink
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Sorry Al Gore...errr Al Franken, I think it's over. Hell Minnesota puts Michelle Bachman in office so why the look of surprise?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 11/28/2008
- DeSwiss I'm a Fan of DeSwiss 28 fans permalink
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You must be an "old" Democrat. (j/k)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 11/28/2008
- dori I'm a Fan of dori permalink

Or a Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 11/28/2008
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I still can't figure out how a state that voted Obama, voted Coleman so highly?

I mean WTH?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 11/28/2008
- jackstpaul I'm a Fan of jackstpaul 9 fans permalink

There was a 3rd party candidate who got 15%. Haven't heard any good argument for whom his votes would've gone to.

Al really rubbed some people the wrong way. I had no problem voting for him, but for a lot of people it was truly "a lesser of two evils"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 11/28/2008
- DinkSinger I'm a Fan of DinkSinger 10 fans permalink

In exit polling, 11% of Barkley voters said they would have voted for Franken in a two-candidate race, 8% for Coleman and 75% said they would not have voted for either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 11/29/2008
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