Early data shows strong Black Friday shopping

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ASHLEY M. HEHER | November 29, 2008 11:35 PM EST | AP

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A couple kisses outside the Apple Store on Chicago's Magnificent Mile as a Santa display sports an iPhone Saturday, Nov. 29, 2008. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)

CHICAGO — The holiday shopping season got off to a surprisingly solid start, according to data released Saturday by a research firm. But the sales boost during the post-Thanksgiving shopathon came at the expense of profits as the nation's retailers had to slash prices to attract the crowds in a season that is expected to be the weakest in decades.

Sales during the day after Thanksgiving rose 3 percent to $10.6 billion, according to preliminary figures released Saturday by ShopperTrak RCT Corp., a Chicago-based research firm that tracks sales at more than 50,000 retail outlets. Last year, shoppers spent about $10.3 billion on the day after Thanksgiving, dubbed Black Friday because it was historically the sales-packed day when retailers would become profitable for the year.

But this year, many observers were expecting consumers to spend more time browsing than buying, amid contractions in consumer spending and growing fears about economic uncertainty and trouble in the global financial markets.

"Under these circumstances, it's truly amazing when you think about all the news that led into the holiday season, it certainly appears that consumers are willing to spend more than most expected," said ShopperTrak co-founder Bill Martin. "Everybody wants value for their dollar, so we saw a tremendous response to the discounts."

While it isn't a predictor of overall holiday season sales, Black Friday is an important barometer of people's willingness to spend during the holidays. Last year, it was the biggest sales generator of the season while the Thanksgiving shopping weekend of Friday through Sunday accounted for about 10 percent of overall holiday sales.

Still, experts, who predict this year's overall holiday shopping period will be the weakest in decades thanks to an overall contraction in spending, caution that this year's sales growth may be hard to sustain.

Also complicating matters is a shorter buying season _ 27 days between Black Friday and Christmas _ instead of 32 last year.

Across the country, sales in the South were up 3.4 percent from last year while they climbed 2.6 percent in the Northeast as shoppers began scouring store aisles at midnight hoping to snag the best selection on early morning specials, some as much as 70 percent off. Elsewhere, sales rose 3 percent in the Midwest and 2.7 percent in the West.

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Patty Saal, 60, of Mogadore, Ohio, began her Black Friday shopping at 5 a.m. when she and her daughters went to a Sam's Club to purchase iPods.

"We're doing fine," she said.

Fifth-grade teacher Daphna Stepen, 42, spent Black Friday hunting for deals inside Macy's and at the Limited Too clothing store and headed out again Saturday. The Chicago resident said she was surprised by the discounts as well as how many coupons she'd received from stores, which helped her save even more money on already marked-down items.

"You can get almost 40 percent off stuff if you work the coupons," she said.

Separately on Saturday, J.C. Penney Co. Inc. said business was strong in its sites across the country as customers responded to sales. Some of the department store's best sellers were smaller electronic gadgets and practical gifts, such as sweaters, boots, coats and luggage.

But the chain said it wouldn't provide specific sales figures.

"In light of the challenging and volatile economic climate, and shifts in this year's retail calendar, we don't believe that reporting sales data for any one day (or weekend), including Black Friday, would provide a meaningful barometer of our business," the Plano, Texas company said in a statement released Saturday afternoon.

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AP Retail Writers Anne D'Innocenzio in New York and Emily Fredrix in Aurora, Ohio contributed to this report.

CHICAGO — The holiday shopping season got off to a surprisingly solid start, according to data released Saturday by a research firm. But the sales boost during the post-Thanksgiving shopathon ca...
CHICAGO — The holiday shopping season got off to a surprisingly solid start, according to data released Saturday by a research firm. But the sales boost during the post-Thanksgiving shopathon ca...
 
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that's right, people, go ahead and spend more than you can so we send a message out that all is fine in this economy. idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 11/30/2008

Excuse me, are these people breathing fumes? This crisis isn't over. Why are they spending what they don't have? These are the same people who tried to get credit that couldn't pay it back, tried to get loans that can't pay them back. Folks, wake up and smell the hummus. I blame the retailers for this, its only going to cause more misery for the rest of us. Its got to be outlawed, feeding on thier greed. Its sad and disgusting. The retailers should be telling them, as much as I want your sales, I want you to be able to feed your families. Let the rich buy and you stay home and keep your money secure. I know its a crazy thought, but if they had any real morals or ethics, this is what they would do. How dare they try to make this situation and thiers worse? Monday could be another down turn, or the day after that or the day after that, and in case nobody paid attention, gas is going up again, and will be back up to 3.00 before christmas. Hello. Then what, ya going to hitch hike becuase you blew your budget on christmas> Get real. Is it any wonder why some learn and others don't?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 11/30/2008

I didn't know until a few min. ago that not one flat TV was made in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 11/30/2008
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Is this related to black Ice in some way? Or the black market? We are so ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 11/30/2008

Every year it's the same old storyline: businesses say they're hoping for good sales, then they say they're worried about the numbers not being so good, then they say things were pretty good for Black Friday -- but they could've been better, then they say things aren't looking very good (again) -- which is repeated ad nauseum by the media all the way up to Xmas Eve . . .

And then they come out after it's all over, and say their sales were UP by such and such a percent.

And people fall for this crap year after year!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 11/30/2008

Yes they do. They fear one day we'll realize we are just fine without, just like our g-/grandparents were. Ah capitalism, time to change or fade away. You cry wolf too often.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 11/30/2008

A 3% increase when crap was that deeply discounted? That is not a solid start at all. I bet profits are way down. People were out but no one was shopping unless it was deep and I mean deep discounted. Adjust that 3% for inflation and it's basically flat or even down slightly so please give me a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 11/30/2008

The reason a 3% rise is a big deal is not that it's a big improvement over last year, but that everyone was expecting a big decline. And, things are ALWAYS deeply discounted on Black Friday. In fact, from what I've read, the discounts were not as great as they normally are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 11/30/2008

'got a Christmas Club with our local bank. Oct to Oct, money is deducted bi-weekly from my checking account with an interest $60.00 for EVERY $1000.00 deposited. Principal + interest is credited back to my account by Nov 7th. Gifts for Mom/Dad, 5 brothers, McArthur, DeGaulle, Kennedy, Patton and Wright, 4 grandparents, 3 BFF's, god mom/dad; 4 nephews, 12 cousins. Total 32.

We are Philly and Eagles fan-actics. I negotiated 32 official Phillies Championship and Eagles matching T-shirts/caps at different sizes via a local sporting goods, bulk order 40% less than Kohl's or Steve/Barry. 'was surprised with the workmanships by local immigrants.

Shopping done and all wrapped. Total = $640.00. Not very expensive gifts like iPods, Mintendos etc. It's the thought that counts. I bank and buy locally to help my community.

I have a balance of $2540.00. An Amish carpenter in my area sold me a huge old antique mantel for $400.00. At first glance, I just had the feeling it once belong to stately home. He is restoring the mantel to its old glory. Perfect in my living room. A gift to myself. I can't wait.

The rest stays in my savings in case this economy tanks further. If things go well, I'll transfer it to my Magellan account. A ritual for 4 years.

Crisis, my dad say, impels me to unfold my creativity, energies and powers within me. He believes in me.

Lesson learned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 11/29/2008

Not to worry , the media will still tell us to be miserable and paranoid .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 11/29/2008
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Fear fear fear...forget forget forget...buy buy buy...consume consume consume...we are like a drug resistant form of staph. The rapid rate of deforestation looks like flesh eating disease from space.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 11/30/2008

Amusing post. If it weren't so sad/true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 11/30/2008
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Tis the season.....what would buy on Black Friday? Jesus saves....up to 40% off!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 11/29/2008
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Gretzky shoots... Jesus saves!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 11/29/2008

I refuse to buy more stuff, that I have no intention of dusting. Imagine if we only bought used goods. Think of the natural resources that could be saved. It has become a national embarrassment, the way we consume and waste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 11/29/2008
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Except for the guy who got trampled to death at Wal-mart!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 11/29/2008
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I'm so relieved. And only 3 deaths.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 11/29/2008

wah wah, Christmas is so commercial. Retailers are so greedy. This is why liberals get pegged as whiners. The fact is that it is very important how much consumers are spending, many jobs depend on it. So go get your friends and family some nice American products and boost our economy at the same time. It's a 2fer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 11/29/2008
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Really? Your argument is so lame, I'm at a loss for words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 11/29/2008

Why, too real for you? The stunning gleam of truth too bright? You posted that you couldn't think of anything to say? Really? Start by telling me what's wrong with supporting the economy and getting the people you love something nice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 11/30/2008
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What nice American products?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 11/29/2008

Yes jobs do depend on this, but what kind of jobs are we talking about here? Most of those jobs in retail don't pay them enough to pay for the gas to get them there. There are NO benefits, no job security, only keep them until xmas is over and they are back to square one. That isn't helping anyone. Real JObs that pay LIVING wages are what is needed. None of this retail crap. If that isn't republican thinking I don't know what is. As for nice American products, what are you breathing the same fumes the friday idiots were? None of it is American made. Jobs went overseas long ago to make that garbage. They pushed NICE American companies out long ago, stole thier copyrights on patents and got no repercussions for it. Your pals at Wal Mart took care of that. I know, I was a retailer and manufacturer who tried to sell Imerican products. Until people stop buying foreign made crap, nothing will change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 11/30/2008

wah wah, my guy lost election so i'm looking to blame it on someone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 11/30/2008

I voted for Obama, I'm just saying liberals looks like cry-babies when we start whining about the evil free-market. It drives innovation. It's why your affordable computer fits on your desk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 11/30/2008
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Sure,but no matter how good they are the greedy retailers will never be satisfied--they will be crying all Christmas season as if the consumer is obligated to make them richer!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 11/29/2008

seems like the junkies can't get the needle out of their arms

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 11/29/2008

Indeed. When a crowd stampedes and kills an employee and then complains because the store is temporarily closed that's mighty strong evidence for a massively out of control addiction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 11/29/2008
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